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TenHut · 09-01-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by svjhonda

And I guess the ABS is non-functional under 10kmph na?

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Originally Posted by TenHut

While C-ABS is engaged and active only at speeds above 25kmph you CAN trigger it at speeds lower than 25kmph while you are coming to a halt. 25kmph + is the threshold when you are taking off and not when coming to a halt

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Originally Posted by svjhonda

^Massively sweet. Its brake by wire. So If you say 'I'm braking', you're wrong. The bike is doing the braking for you.

it brakes by wire after its triggered. Not untill then...untill then YOU are braking. Once triggered the ECU is braking yeah !

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Originally Posted by sheelpriye

I cannot even faintly relate to this,

I mean we complain(I do) that electronics has taken out the fun from premier class Motorcycling, but it does save life 'on roads', though am open for debating(not for ABS) on track-usage of electronics, Maybe I am not very versed, but slipper clutches/anti-wheelie etc take the fun out of Motorcycle racing. or maybe I am wrong.

I am at best trying to do all the modulation myself, as much as an average human being can comprehend & act upon.
May be I need to ride an activa with c-abs to get some sorta feel

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You also WANT the C-ABS to do stoppies/wheelies etc
makes it less likely to lock and wash out the front.

actually, you would be hard pressed to find a situation where you didnt want the ABS.... but if you ever manage to find one, then just pull the fuse.
Slipper clutches are not joker cards. You cant just downshift at mad rpms or do two downshifts and expect no wheel hopping. I had my wheel hop when I downshifted hard on the Blade. It has a slipper clutch. They dont eliminate the need to blip the throttle completely. They just make you less busy as a rider as you can focus on corner entry speed and nail it faster and safer. They forgive erroneous downshifts which otherwise would highside you so high you could headbutt a space shuttle.
Motorcycles are dangerous...they ought to be made safer in whichever way possible while making sure that the speeds go on increasing and the laptimes go on decreasing.
I dont like traction control though...the idea of traction control is to make the rider safer...but good throttle control and throttle input is the key to racing or even street motorcycling and it is that quitessential 'skill' part of motorcycling. When you start wearing the eraser ahead of your pencil tip you are overdoing it.