pulsater

Before I start, its a request to all to please stick to the topic and post sensibly. Its a sensitive and very debatable issue.

It has always amazed me to know that large number of employees in India work more than 48 hours/week (the legal national limit) and are hardly paid double the normal rates for overtime (an employee is eligible to get paid double rates for the amount of time he/she works overtime in your office) and this seems to be no issue for the people doing the job in any big or small company. I know that my mates do find it difficult and frustrating to work from 9 to 9 but they dont even bring this up to the administration.

Now I know its hard to stand up against your boss or seniors, but today's private firms I think are more open to help and advice its employees. I also know that there is no institute which governs and monitors "employment law" in India and even if there was, it wont be off much help when it comes to legal advice and assistance for an Individual. This makes me rise a question to the businessmen in forum as well, that how important it is for them to respect their employee's basic working rights?

I am dead sure most of you must be in a job right now which wants to you to stay back even for whole night in the office, if they want you to for their own reasons. I know people from Infosys for example, and the work pressure there is pethatic, inspite of being an ISO 9001:2008 and NASDAQ listed company.

I wouldn't understand if you would say to me that its all good coz, that what make us the most hardworking people on the planet and we well compete china and other countries in labour force that ways, coz I personally think you really cant take out a constructive work labour from a person if he/she in a same environment for 90% of his day.

And just to add another fact, I have read that a worker can take a day off in a week any day, whenever he wants to without being questioned by his employer what so ever. Now all these laws and rights sound so good and in favour of a worker in books but in reality I know you can piss off your boss if you come late by 15 mins even for a day in a month.

I have too much to input but cant really construct a flow in my post, so I am open for a discussion and yes, there is a poll as well.

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sunilg

Topic approved.

A very good and sensible topic Abhi. I'll post my 2 cents in a short while.

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pulsater

Thanks Sunil, would want to know what you have to say on this.

I may have put this wrong. Couldn't find a reliable info from Indian gov. sites on this part.

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aargee

This may or may not be in the rule books of Govt; but one thing you're sure to find in the employee's handbook (not sure how many are aware & how many read it). It goes to mean that any leave is to be approved by manager OR continuous absence from work for 7 consecutive days is treated as absconding or quit OR an employee MUST inform the supervisor about the leave he's about to take in case of emergency.

So I guess the employee handbook over rules the Govt laws!!!

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pulsater

ya, I think its a valid rule/policy from companies and is or should be part of Indian law.

Few reference websites I am looking into, clearly mention all the employment laws in India

India Trade, Indian Employment Law, India Work Permits, India Pakistan Trade Unit
International Employment Law “Quick Facts”: India | International HR Forum

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Well, on an average i work around 50 hours a week, If i work the 6th day (another 10 hours) then my employer gives the liberty to take any working day off (or a meager amount of 400 Rs.)

So I'm happy to over work & thankfully be able to add up my compensatory offs and ride long

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Nice topic this.

I'm pretty sure the Labour Laws in Inida aren't put into pratice for reasons best known to the governments & companies.
It is also a right & duty of employees to be aware of such laws, and I hope atleast this thread brings out some awareness in this regard.

Regarding labour laws, I have heard that the UK government has framed some very nice laws, protecting interests of the workforce.
For instance, when I was at one of our MNC Investment Banking clients, I learnt that in the UK, a female employee is entitled to a minimum of 26 weeks of maternity leave. And this with I think 6 months being paid leave, next 3 months at 75% pay & so on. (I might be wrong with the numbers here, but the idea is right).
Whereas here in India, its only about 2-3 months of paid leave, & unpaid leave after that.

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We shouldn't actually bring in the western countries work culture here in this thread coz it will seems pointless and uninfluenced to most of us because it is exceptionally good and is practised fairly by all companies, but now as you have mentioned so I will just add to it.

1. Maternity leaves are fully paid, though I am not sure about the period but it wouldn't be any less than 3 months.

2. You can take a day off, any day in a week if its a "sick leave" by just telephoning your manager in the morning or informing day before and you wouldn't be questioned for anything however they might request you to fill in somebody else in your absence.

3. Teachers/ university professors get 4 months off annually.

4. Office time is usually from 10am to 6pm, so workers don't come before 10 and don't stay after 6. Cases are exceptional for senior heads, managers of the company but they are religiously paid for over time.

5. Minimum National Wage for 21+ is £5.80/hr.

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NitinGirish

Fantastic topic. I quit because of this and I am now seriously considering teaching as a profession.

Don't blame Employers pulsater, blame employees. It's we guys who are bringing it upon ourselves. 7/10 people who overwork do so willingly. Why=Money.

Indians are seeing few bucks, sundry electronic gadgets and a semblance of material affluence in the past 10-15 years. They want more and some would say whats wrong in that? Well, whats wrong in being a wannabe?

People don't come before 10 and nobody stays back after 6 because they belong to more EVOLVED cultures, where life has different aspects and career, money is powering different aspects. Unlike in India where career and work clouds everyother dimension of life.

I could go on. Whats the point... It will take atleast a generation to reverse this trend.

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