drvmtm

i am very happy to state that the mighty apache 180 rtr is converted to full dc 12 volt electrical systems.it was taken as a challenge as its one of the very low number of bikes which are having tci ignition system which means that it takes all of its spark plug juice from the battery directly,not from a dedicated coil of magneto like a lot of other indian two wheelers.

the prob is if the charging isnt good as less then 13 volts as in less then 3k rpm the bike fails to perform properly as it fails to deliver the proper amount of amps to the tci ignition.

apache is having ac dc electricals and a 35 watt halogen bulb which runs on ac.magneto is a two phase system.weirdly it s rr is one of a kind,takes juice from both ac phase and converting it to dc and finally to battery.it can have a company claimed 100watt or so generator but the truthe is it will not even support a simple h4 55/60 bulb directly.
moreover coil rewinding and running a higher watt bulb in ac mode like many do in pulsys will also not work as the rr will fail as of its uniqueness.

many have tried but still there is no dedicatedone single thread where in we can find a single usefull info about dc convertion of apaches.

what we are doing?
we are changing a stock apache rtr 180/160 to full dc like zma/zmr/p 220/p 180,150ug 4s/r 15s etc.

what is the benefit?
well,apart from being alive after a night ride,a better electrical s here what we are getting here. we can run 55/60 halogen bulb flicker free or hids ,may be 2 hids,does that fit the bill?

is it gonna void the warranty?
yes it will.

is it safe and robust?
all the components are oem ,also these are used in different bikes which are modded to dc,working like a charm.but be warned,a proper knowledgeable electrician is required.its not a simple plug and play.

will there be any load in the engine after the mod?
no ,you will not notice any drop of engine performance.


so what we need to do?
a piaggio ape rr.
a apaches stator re winded with 19 gauge wire in alternate fashion.

install the coil in place,rest all stock.there will be two wires coming out from the coil ,these wires to be connected to ape rrs two Grey wires.the ape rr will have two more wire,one yellow,connect this to battery pos,one black,connect it to battery negative.reroute all the electrical s from the battery.use a relay for halogen bulb otherwise you will not be able to get the full intensity.


i tried my hands on guiterfreaks bike and his rtr 180 is now full dc running 55/60 bulb with ease.he can run this light all day ling ,no battery drain will be there.

now ;lets the pictures talk----


the bike.


the rr unit of piaggio ape 3 wheeled minidoor,please buy oem only,no delhi made one please.


a rewinded apache rtr s coil with its 8 poles.wire used 19 gauge,12 feet or more per pole,clock-anticlock-clock winding fashion.


side view of the re winded coil.


comparision with a pulsar /avengers re winded coil,the top one is apaches,the lower one is pulsars.


apache 180 s coil with wires removed.


please dont buy this rr as it s having extra wires ,may lead to undesired results.

after the mod the bike will be able to run 55/60 halogen bulb with ease all day long,if you want.you can use hids also.the stock reflector of rtr r very good,so the light output with a normal h4 55/60 halogen bulb is equal to p 220 s stock lights.

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mandeep2183

Great work DOC....will check out guitarfreaks's RTR in next G2G..

abhijeet080808

Nice post. Written in a easy to understand way. Now, go ahead write such posts about all other Indian bikes!

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theguitarfreak

I am lucky to be the guy on whose bike the mod was carried out

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sunny9830687955

WOW doc dada awesome !! & with a normal h4 55/60 halogen bulb is equal to p 220 s stock lights.

guitar would definitely like to see your bike in flesh & light

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sajjt

Dr, nice effort, and well narrated.

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Amen !!

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pavanchirmade

1 stupid question: What is the ignition system in an Apache? No ignition coil on the stator??

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drvmtm

its a tci ignition system like cars which takes the spark plug juice from battery,and yes there is no ignition coil in the stator,see the pic.
thank you,plese ,feel free to add more info,diagrams in this thread to make it more informative.
thank you,plese ,feel free to add more info,diagrams in this thread to make it more informative.this same goes for you also sir.

a normal 55/60 halogen is a very good bulb indeed,just remember all the basic 4 wheelers and even some 6 wheelers,they all use 55/60 bulb by default(well most of them).the key is producing a proper amount of voltage and amp to the bulb,it will be bright.also apaches reflectors are very high quality,they also add a nice touch.go see the bike in night,you will believe it.

you holded your nerves correctly,took the risk,i thank you for that,appriciate it.
abhi,the god of light,master please put your valuable inputs and make it more informative
thanks mandeep
thanks aryan for approval.

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