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Old 01-09-2011, 12:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have had my pulsar 200 for 3 years now an i am absolutely in love with the bike except for a two flaws which is the handling at slow speeds and rear brakes can any modifications be done to improve these aspects

can a mono shock at he rear improve handling and what would be the best and safest way to go about it

is a rear disc brake recommended an how and where to get it done


please help me guys
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Old 01-10-2011, 05:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Neeraj,

I've a Pulsar 200 since 2007 and like you I also totally love the bike. In regards to the handling, you can do few things -

1) Not sure what conditions the rubbers are in, but a fresh pair of rubber makes a world of difference. Go for sticky ones as they provide extra grip and thereby inspire more confidence than the normal tubeless ones.

2) Don't go for something like a rear monoshock as the chassis is not designed for it. It would completely destroy the handling of the bike.

3) Try shedding off some extra weight from the bike, like a free flow exhaust, which is like 3-4 kilos lighter than the stock, letting off the saari guard go and things like that.

4) The main factors affecting the overall handling of the bike at low speeds is the bike's higher CG, weight and a bit longer swing arm. Basically you cannot do anything about it, unless you decide to build a completely new chassis out from scratch.

5) For the brakes, you can definitely modify the front brake. Go for steel braided brake hose for the front. You can also change the master cylinder. Since your bike is of the same period as of mine, I suppose the master cylinder on your bike is of KBX. Go for something like Nissin or Tokiko. They might be bit costly but they are absolutely worth it. They make a world of difference in braking.

6) A rear disc is absolutely welcomed. What I would suggest is.... instead of going for a wield job, check out if the swing arm of the Pulsar 220 (F or S) fits in. I'm hoping they should. If they fit, then nothing better as it would already have the rear disc caliper mount.

7) Apart from the above suggestion, what I've learned is, handling the bike at slow speeds is a skill to learn and I've been learning each and every day I ride the bike.

Hope that helps

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Old 01-10-2011, 11:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Neeraj,

I've a Pulsar 200 since 2007 and like you I also totally love the bike. In regards to the handling, you can do few things -

1) Not sure what conditions the rubbers are in, but a fresh pair of rubber makes a world of difference. Go for sticky ones as they provide extra grip and thereby inspire more confidence than the normal tubeless ones.

2) Don't go for something like a rear monoshock as the chassis is not designed for it. It would completely destroy the handling of the bike.

3) Try shedding off some extra weight from the bike, like a free flow exhaust, which is like 3-4 kilos lighter than the stock, letting off the saari guard go and things like that.

4) The main factors affecting the overall handling of the bike at low speeds is the bike's higher CG, weight and a bit longer swing arm. Basically you cannot do anything about it, unless you decide to build a completely new chassis out from scratch.

5) For the brakes, you can definitely modify the front brake. Go for steel braided brake hose for the front. You can also change the master cylinder. Since your bike is of the same period as of mine, I suppose the master cylinder on your bike is of KBX. Go for something like Nissin or Tokiko. They might be bit costly but they are absolutely worth it. They make a world of difference in braking.

6) A rear disc is absolutely welcomed. What I would suggest is.... instead of going for a wield job, check out if the swing arm of the Pulsar 220 (F or S) fits in. I'm hoping they should. If they fit, then nothing better as it would already have the rear disc caliper mount.

7) Apart from the above suggestion, what I've learned is, handling the bike at slow speeds is a skill to learn and I've been learning each and every day I ride the bike.

Hope that helps

So, Happy riding and learning.
hi ,
as you said here i have fitted new mrf in rear (which is also coming in new pulsar 200cc) so is that sticky or not. if not then tell me some brand name and now i am going to change my front tire so may i use fz fron tyre or any else sticky and broad so bike will have more grip on road.

here can u expalin which is cylinder you talking about.
where we can find free flow exhaust system and is that approved by RTO so cop will not behind me.

thanks.
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hi ,
as you said here i have fitted new mrf in rear (which is also coming in new pulsar 200cc) so is that sticky or not. if not then tell me some brand name and now i am going to change my front tire so may i use fz fron tyre or any else sticky and broad so bike will have more grip on road.

here can u expalin which is cylinder you talking about.
where we can find free flow exhaust system and is that approved by RTO so cop will not behind me.

thanks.
Shravan Dude,

The MRF Zappers that come with the Pulsar 200 are NOT soft compounds. For both front and rear you can go for Michelins. This time when you change the rubber, do a bit of market research and go for rounder profile. For example, the default profile of the rubber on our bikes is 80 (for example for the rear is 120/80-17). See if you can get 70 or 60. A 100 section tyre up front should be good, but as I said, go for a rounder profile. But keep in mind that the average and top end of the bike would take a slight hit (around 2-3%) due to additional grip the bike would now be having. But I personally think that, I don't peak the bike daily, and 2-3% lower average would not give me nightmares.

The front brake Master Cylinder is the container which contains the brake fluid. It's construction and operation makes a lot of difference in the feedback from the front brake.

I don't think Free-Flow exhausts are approved by RTO, because they are a bit more polluting and do make their presence felt in the public. Depending on the state of residence, having that in might a risk, but still the whole world goes for free flow exhaust system, to get performance boosts and get rid of some dry wight.
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The R15 tires make a world of difference on the bike. I have em front and back.

Although theoretically it should affect speedo readings and the gearing I have not noticed any change in either. Compared speedo to a 220 at various speeds.

Another thing to look at is the cone set. Gets out of shape way often and affects handling quite a bit.
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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@csjal
thanks a lot bro was planning to get the rear tyres replaced but am a bit partial towards tubeless as it has been hassle free for these 3.5 years , was considering to get the IRC s like on the NINJA 250 where in mumbai will i be able to source it and for how much??

also regarding the rear monoshock , just dug up an old thread from team bhp , this guy has given different views of the job done on his bike and also he has written flowery reviews of the handling

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...-please-2.html

regarding the rear disc breaks , i would also need the p220 alloys or is there any alternative

and was also considering getting the whole headlight assembly removed and mounting a a bullet thunderbirds head light assembly with the digital speedo of the pulsar mounted on a bracket , has this been done by any one , pics would be really helpful

hoping to begin work on the bike in a week , hence collecting asmuch info as i can gather..

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Old 01-14-2011, 02:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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@ voo doo god 13

got the cone set changed 2 months back , the front fairing rattles a lot and the lights are also not that great hence considering replacing it as above along with the light mods to come later
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Old 01-25-2011, 02:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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need some last minute advice regarding unicorn dazzlers rear disc setup.
would it be possible to use the existing alloys of the 200 with the rear disc setup of the dazzler , what modification will need to be done, is it safe?
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Hi all,

Ive always felt the P200 was a front heavy bike with a softer rear suspension set up compared to the Yammies , so I think putting softer compound tyres and stiffening the suspension if possible can improve the handling a lot.

But I like the P200 for what it is, a fast bike with a dab of unpredictabilty thrown in on the handling front.
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