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Old 01-20-2011, 05:05 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Just wanted to clear my doubt, what happens if i use the bikes used engine oil to lubricate the chain, as i have seen many mechanics drain the engine oils from splendor, passion and other bikes and use the oil to lubricate chains of RTR, karizma, pulsar 150, 180 and 220 and i see those chain dont need lubrication for atleast 500 kms.

Has anyone tried this for R15 or pulsar or karizma and did they found an difference?
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Used engine oil, firstly, has lost most of its original properties; lubrication being one of them, and secondly, it is loaded with tiny metal fragments and debirs from the engine. Using used engine oil would be as good as maybe applying some griding paste to your chain. . . . . . Ok i exaggerated.

This used engine oil is basicaly abrasive. You are trying to remove the abrasive, dust laden oil present in the chain. Its not too bright to replace one contaminated oil with another.
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here is a interesting link i had bookmarked on O rings and wd 40 use on them PART II WD-40 O-ring exposure effect results - ADVrider
Thanks Puneet, thats an excellent piece of information. I missed your post hence the delayed response.

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Just wanted to clear my doubt, what happens if i use the bikes used engine oil to lubricate the chain, as i have seen many mechanics drain the engine oils from splendor, passion and other bikes and use the oil to lubricate chains of RTR, karizma, pulsar 150, 180 and 220 and i see those chain dont need lubrication for atleast 500 kms.

Has anyone tried this for R15 or pulsar or karizma and did they found an difference?
The decision made by a semi-skilled, professionally untrained/uneducated, 3rd party mechanic and an informed decision made by an xBhpian is the difference (No offence to any mechanics)

* Using discarded engine oil on your O-Ring drive chain shows poor disregard for an important component of your bike.

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Used engine oil, firstly, has lost most of its original properties; lubrication being one of them, and secondly, it is loaded with tiny metal fragments and debirs from the engine. Using used engine oil would be as good as maybe applying some grinding paste to your chain. . . . . . Ok i exaggerated.

This used engine oil is basicaly abrasive. You are trying to remove the abrasive, dust laden oil present in the chain. Its not too bright to replace one contaminated oil with another.
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Do these happen due to my enthusiasm for experiments or just me? I landed up buying Motul C2 chain lube road (Black below) & which is genuine one. Any idea how this is different from the old one (Silver+Red)?



Spec & content wise I couldn't find any difference. Any help?
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Can anyone tell me for an apache rtr 180 non abs which screws do i need to open so that the whole chain is visible ie,the front sprocket and the rear one.
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Today when I visited the Motul dealer came to know about a product which can be used for cleaning as well as a chain lube. Don't know how effective it is. I am looking forward for everyone's valuable input
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here is a interesting link i had bookmarked on O rings and wd 40 use on them PART II WD-40 O-ring exposure effect results - ADVrider
First I'd like to say that the above is a great experiment. Good to see people getting out there and experimenting and learning on their own. However I have to mention this.

I find it strange that someone would be testing O rings by their tensile strength, when O rings are used to seal by even pressure around them, Not by pulling them appart.
I find these tests irrelevant and a waste of the guys time.

I use O rings (rubber, nitrile, teflon backup rings behind the O rings) on a daily basis at work for holding pressures (Up to 15k psi) on my pumps, connections and caps. These have been cleaned using diesel, WD40, Brake cleaner, electrical cleaner, industrial grade cleaners, Acids, alkali's etc, Installed into the grooves using oil, grease, nickle never sieze/copperkote, (drill) pipe dope etc.
The drilling fluids, hydrocarbons, water, chemicals and cement slurry's that flow through the connections don't make them fail. Its the nicking, pinching and stretching (by numerous reusing of the O ring, where infact they are designed to be of single time use only, then disposed of) of them that affects them
I've yet to have one fail by stretching them apart........since they are inside a fitting with nothing pulling on them......

A more suitable test would have been to test them using a experiment that would have involved them being used in the manner they were designed.
Use them to seal a connection, apply pressure and see what the baseline pressure rating was, and compare to the others that had been exposed to the various mediums.

Its like using a clay housebrick as a hammer
Sure you can find out what one is able to stand up to impacts but a housebrick is used to support the structure, insulate from heat/cold/wind/rain etc not to drive nails into wood.

Just my 2cents.
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