drvmtm

well,i am writing this thread because i am really in pain.yes pain.
hi all,i am dr.vivek and i am a frequent tourer,i own a pulsar 180 ug 2.i just love my bike.but from the very first day i faced problem when riding in night time.the headlight unit is just too pathetic yes it is.now i wanna share some car info personal to me,its related,just dont kill me as i am talking about cars for some lines.i still remember when i had one old premire padmini ,and fitted it with a huge alternater from 118 ne just to improve its lights back in 99-00 time zone.the head lamps were 90/100 bulbs mounted on round lucas glass reflecters which is stock for fiats.i stll unable to find a light thats sooo good till date till in cars.i had so many after that ,indicas,zen mpfi,swift,2 scorps,though the latest scorpio of mine is pretty good even with its stock 55/60 setup.

dont get me wrong but i strongly a die heard biker my self but i belive in the deepest part of hearts that at least the lighting section of our desi bikes are quite stone age.still p 220 with 55 watts ligts with projectors are pretty awasome to ride in light,but theres a still some room left to improve,bajajs i have trust,they can do some magic.
but i need some magic right now with my ride and i need this very soon so.......all the xbhpians ,i need your valuable contribution..
i am about to do a modification on my bike on its electrical s to improve its headlights.i got inspired from abhijeet080808 .i belive he is a genious and i kudos to him to simplify the electricals on our pulsar series. now some of you guys will tell me to go for hid after converting to dc.i know its very nice ,i totally agree with u guys,but in my opinion,i will start with the basic power unit then i will think of hids,i mean to say i will build a stronger power genaration unit(i hate our pulsys puny magneto).then if needed i will add hid ,may be two,or atleast a 90/100 halogen bulb.
now afterwords i will think of putting projecters to cut glare if needed but i want to start from the basic.

my idea of my project is ......
1.rewinding coil ,all 7 poles.
2.replace the stock rectifier init(rr) to ape 3 wheelers unit.

now i need a reliable init that will be stable in long drives,as i am a frequent tourer.
this is the reason i want to use a company made rr unit as in my belief,most failure from rr unit it self!!a strong company made rr unit will keep the peace of mind,also i am not a pro in electronics,i am only human doctor.i am not sure i can make abhijits brilliant rr unit(shunt rectifire) my self!!!!

so ,electronic gurus ,help me to make this mod.i need ur expert help.
also i am attaching a picture of a stater coil of my bike,please do

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abhijeet080808

A Piaggio Ape 3 wheeler rectifier unit would work as other members have testified. And for rewinding, use 19 gauge wire.

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rahul9985

The APE RR is 1 Phase. So make sure the winding is one phase and not 3 phase. After winding also get DC conversion done. It will make your bike HID ready.
In the stock headlamp assy fixing two HID's isnt possible. It would be better to buy an additional reflector and fix the second HID to the crash guard.

My advice:
If you can manage with 2 HID's just go in for Avenger's stator coil and RR with 9Ah battery. It can easily sustain the load. Getting a person who can do the winding would reliably would be difficult.

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^^Ape RR unit with single phase coil will do AC to DC conversion. No need any additional ckts.

The Avy coil is not DC ready. You will need an additional AC to DC converter. Hence not recommended for HIDs.

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rahul9985

Ok i dint know this. What about the bikes that are already on DC?

Of course i mean with DC conversion after putting Avy coil.

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drvmtm

Thank you sunny sir for approval,sorry for my mistakes earlier with the posts.

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abhijeet080808

This thing will replace the stock rr unit. If the bike is already on DC, or even if it was earlier on AC, after replacement, it will be on DC.

And, as per your earlier 2nd pic, the thing you showed is the trigger coil for the CDI unit. Don't mess with that!

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drvmtm

wow thank u abhi and rahul for your inputs so fast,i thank u again.
now i will insert some pics and lets take the discussion from there....
lets start with the basic.am i correct to mark the existing coils of ug 2 pulsar?now i need to open up battery coil+headlight coil,correct.
then i have to rewind these 7 poles with 19 gauge wire correct?
it should be in alternate fashion,suppose first one clockwise so next one anticlok wise,correct?
after finhing just add two ends of the coil to ape rr,correct?
then from ape rr via ingnition switch to battery.
then all load from battery,.
Here is a basic diagram,forgive me if it is funny,,,,,i am a novice.
now i have some questions....
1.is 19 gauge is thinner then 20 gauge wire?
2.is it a good idea to leave the old rr (stock),i think it is needed because it will do the rectification of the ignition coil for spark plugs.
3.to abhi,u have changed your tail unit to leds,now i have a stock one,can i go with that as it has 5/21 watt lamp+a head lamp of 90/100w?

any other point to note?feel free to write

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abhijeet080808

Yes, you have to wind those 7 poles in alternate fashion using 19 gauge wire. 19 gauge is what I used. If you want to, you can go a step lower to 18 gauge. It will give even more power at higher rpms, but at lower rpm it is possible that the battery may not be charging enough.

19 gauge wire is thicker than 20 gauge wire.

Old RR unit is not needed. Remove it. CDI ckt is seperate from charging ckt.

As for the tail lamp, you will have to find out and see. It should work w/o any problem. But, I am not 100% sure! Another thing you can do is to use 18 gauge wire to get some more power.

Have a look at my ckt diagram.

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