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Old 10-17-2011, 12:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy Break-In/Run-In

I need help of experienced bikers here on XBHP. Well I have a doubt regarding the term "Break-In" or "Run-In" they are synonymous but the main issue here is that, is this whole concept correct or just a myth?

My Hero Moto dealer told me about this 2.5 years ago when I bought my first bike Hunk and by HMSI dealer told me similar thing when I bought my CBR 3 months ago but my dear friend has a problem over it.

I run a page on Facebook with my friend regarding the CBR250R, its just a community page for all CBR Owners in India. My friend commented that I gave a wrong advice to everybody regarding the Break-In for CBR as told to me by my HMSI Dealer,

1) Upto 500KMS - Speed under 50-55kmph and RPM upto 4K.
2) 500 to 1000 KMS - Speed under 60-65kmph and RPM 4.5-5K
3) 1000 to 1500 KMS - Speed under 75-80kmph and RPM 5-5.5K

Guys if he (Dealer) is wrong and the whole Break In concept is fake then please let me know!!!!!
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According to my knowledge the Dealer is wrong!

All new engines have to follow "Break-In" or "Run-In" as per recommendations on the respective Manuals.The piston rings needs to be seated correctly and all engine parts will rub and metal particles will be shaved and these particles will accumulate with engine oil.Shaving metal particles means smoothening the metal parts inside,So i would say "Break-In" or "Run-In" is necessary for a new bike.

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Have a look at this,This is engine oil drained from a new karizma ran only 58kms.


So what do you think now?
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What did I think? If its possible to rate your post 5*, I'd do that right now!!!

@HH_Hunk - Let's keep it simple; if the manufacturer can produce a motorcycle, their engineers know more than trained mechanics at ASC; atleast to begin with; may be when the mechanics at ASC develop expertise through their experience. Point is that, either the dealers or right or the manufacturer's owner's manual is right. I leave the decision to you!!!

Here's what the manual has to say...
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Pls ask your dealer if they've got any written statement on the specific intervals & also if they've suggestions on...
1. When to carry out first service
2. Things to be inspected/changed during 1st & subsequent service. If they ask to follow the manual, why should they differ for run-in, but follow the service interval & instructions for manual?

And the above RPM's are something close I followed for my run-in on the first engine & you guys know what happened I'm not frightening, but, trying to add what I experienced. Probably someone need not experience the same too.

BTW, you can disclose whoever that "friend" of yours here, there's nothing to hide
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According to my knowledge the Dealer is wrong!

All new engines have to follow "Break-In" or "Run-In" as per recommendations on the respective Manuals.The piston rings needs to be seated correctly and all engine parts will rub and metal particles will be shaved and these particles will accumulate with engine oil.Shaving metal particles means smoothening the metal parts inside,So i would say "Break-In" or "Run-In" is necessary for a new bike.

Proof:
Have a look at this,This is engine oil drained from a new karizma ran only 58kms.


So what do you think now?
Beautiful man! this happens to every engine regardless of run in procedure. I had video'd this recently when I gave my bike the Joel touch, 628 km's later and 3 oil changes the bike is running very sweet, I done the hard run in Motoman stylee!
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So the conclusion is that the dealer is wrong in stating those intervals and speed limits as in they were applicable to the previous engines as in 90s and the new engines today dont face those issues so now we dont have to stick to those RPMs/Speed/KMs bands that people used to earlier in those engines?

If this statement is true then the dealers must be taught things properly because novice and amateurs like me will listen to them and will do as they say (Which I did for my 1st 1000KMS)

Sad side of Indian Motorcycle Industry

That friend is none other than Aargee :P

Thanks for enlightening me dudes. @Aargee - Respect
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