[Ownership Thread]: Yamaha YZF-R15 - Page 198 - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

suhail_kapoor · 12-30-2008, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by souvikb83

now thats the conclusion...what bout the new problems cropping up???

Mate i did say, rest for minor issues, they happen and are part of the game.

and of 197 pages of text on R15 discussion here, honestly we would find it hard to list out 15 major/minor issues, which have impacted a majority of owners.

Some issues are handling based, some are Genuinely technical, and some occur due to driving age(routine issues).

Also, never forget no amount of product testing can replicate real world scenario. What does matter is how a company deals with issues when they occur, which in my opinion is the biggest drawback of Yamaha at the moment. There lower level heirarchy9read : dealers and there mechanics) are neither qualified nor willing enough to take the responsibility to fix an issue.

HydBiker · 12-30-2008, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suhail_kapoor

Mate i did say, rest for minor issues, they happen and are part of the game.

and of 197 pages of text on R15 discussion here, honestly we would find it hard to list out 15 major/minor issues, which have impacted a majority of owners.

Some issues are handling based, some are Genuinely technical, and some occur due to driving age(routine issues).

Also, never forget no amount of product testing can replicate real world scenario. What does matter is how a company deals with issues when they occur, which in my opinion is the biggest drawback of Yamaha at the moment. There lower level heirarchy9read : dealers and there mechanics) are neither qualified nor willing enough to take the responsibility to fix an issue.

I'm with you there...

digislayer · 12-30-2008, 11:03 PM

@KP/HydBiker:
Baba.. where'd you get your white R15 sticker from baba??

(The one on your Display)

HydBiker · 12-31-2008, 12:12 AM

^^^ Mohan Baba @ Secunderbad. He has the God's grace and tremendous skill to turn those stickers into pieces of art... go, get your bike immortalized by him in the Taj TriStar lane...

onlinesatish · 12-31-2008, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HydBiker

hmmm... a list of comments about my post while I was away.

Well, guys, I think Yamaha gave us a great product and also that they are working on listening to customers and attending them in a positive manner. The problem is, as Archi said, with the after sales service.

Also, I don't think there is a major problem with my bike other than the Valve clearance setting, that Yamaha recommended as "check every 6000 kms" but that was not done during the 3rd service by the ppl at the SC.

Such things do come under "proper maintenance" part. This is a machine and it needs to be attended to properly at each service interval.

Also, I am not among the ppl who rip the bike... or push it for top speed. I rarely do that. May be once or twice in a long ride on an empty highway. I don't revv high in every gear even on highways... except for occasional bursts... My comfortable speed on highways is 90-110 kmph when no traffic or disturbances... when on a GQ it can be 100-120 kmph and I take my time to reach there - most of the times picking up speed from 70 kmph in the 6th gear.

I redlined ur bike on all gears execpt on 6th gear during our trip to pargi.I belive even BOOO redlined your bike tht day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HydBiker

^^^ Mohan Baba @ Secunderbad. He has the God's grace and tremendous skill to turn those stickers into pieces of art... go, get your bike immortalized by him in the Taj TriStar lane...

Lolz.....u seemed to be his PR

But seriously tht guy has got amazing talent.

Sarvajit · 12-31-2008, 07:06 AM

@HydBiker&Harsha: I think that riding style is good. I'm following it most of the time too. Changing gears at around 4-5K RPM in traffic&5-6K RPM on empty roads. Bike seems to pick up speed without sputtering even from 40 or so in 6th.

@Suhail: You're right-overall it is a niche product, though minor niggles are in all vehicles. Like Archi&HydBiker say, it is mostly due to the after-sales service&attitude of the SS guys.

@Archi: Thats what I was trying to tell you-tuning idling RPM does not affect fuel flow directly. The SS guys think that if they tune it to idle low it'll drink less petrol. Thats not true. You can't go below a particular setting or the engine will die down when at signals. In the effort to keep it idling people will have the throttle open a wee bit&that'll again start drinking fuel! I don't believe mileage can be set for an FI vehicle. The only thing for optimizing mileage is to eliminate dust from the air filter, clean the pipes etc.but there is no power or economy 'setting' as such like the carbs have.
What you have done is increase the idling, which is helping your engine to get warm quicker, in turn helping in achieving a higher top whack. However, I believe it is going to eat away your engine life as well as FE(no.2 not a big issue, but no.1 is). Why don't you try this: Set the idle rpm to 12-1300, go for a 5km.ride at normal speed, then try to check the top whack? I believe you can still achieve the same top speed provided the engine is adequately warmed up.

HydBiker · 12-31-2008, 08:03 AM

Ladies (if any) & Gentlemen

I present to you here a Modded R15. I was almost in tears when I saw this baby... They're even planning a colour change after it visits the RTA for the registration number...

Now, can someone list out the mods carried out on this bike... please...

Let me try
1) Alloys & Tires changed. Rear - 150/80 x 15, Front - 120/?? x ??
2) Dual Free Flow Exhausts. It was loud with two sounds
3) Dual HID kit
4) LED Strips everywhere...
5) Tail Lamp Assembly
6) Security System
7) Rear Mud Guard Cut to show the arse
8) Rear Suspension changed to some imported piece to increase height
9) Huge modification to the swing arm to fit the tire & the suspension. A tire hugger is planned for and are awaiting stock
10) Front indicators
11) Handlebar weights removed to push in the hand grips
12) Yamaha Logos Snatched and bike scratched
13) Rear Disk Calipers scratching the alloy Drum
14) Big Horns... see the red colour on the RHS beside the engine...

All I could do was pity the owner! He handed it over to these guys and they screwed it up heavily! The engine malfunction light was blinking and they're not bothered about it even when I cautioned them twice...

I just hope the owner likes all these mods!

Sarvajit · 12-31-2008, 08:20 AM

What a waste man! I've seen some well modified Pulsars at Poona Automobiles, Koti. One really looked almost like a Gixxer. Now, that was something worthwhile! The max modification I can imagine to an R15 is maybe fitting in an aftermarket exhaust (not 2!), fatter tyres, tyre hugger, HID. Rest of it-the bike is pretty sporty as it is.

Xenologik · 12-31-2008, 08:39 AM

-and we are talking about r_ping bikes here

Quote:

Let me try
1) Alloys & Tires changed. Rear - 150/80 x 15, Front - 120/?? x ??
overkill

2) Dual Free Flow Exhausts. It was loud with two sounds
yeah. noise pollution

3) Dual HID kit

4) LED Strips everywhere...
now this was the lol part ... this R15 probably belongs to an autowallah

5) Tail Lamp Assembly
not bad except its sticking out of the bike too much, cant say on teh build quality

6) Security System
this is probably what was causing the light to blink

7) Rear Mud Guard Cut to show the arse
yeah the fat rear tyre has to be shown na

8) Rear Suspension changed to some imported piece to increase height
i dont even think its imported...

9) Huge modification to the swing arm to fit the tire & the suspension. A tire hugger is planned for and are awaiting stock

10) Front indicators

11) Handlebar weights removed to push in the hand grips

12) Yamaha Logos Snatched and bike scratched
and "Racing" in golden has been added

13) Rear Disk Calipers scratching the alloy Drum
automatic brakes ! chalo this bike wastes some "xbhp" in this particular loss

14) Big Horns... see the red colour on the RHS beside the engine...

btw it seems that the front disk has been changed to sth else

.. it doesnt look like the R15's disk

anyhow a modded bike is never near to the real replica or what so ever. and after such a catastrophe ... heck ... i dont have words for this

so just consider it a bike getting modded to a dream bike

be it a pulsar, cbz, apache or the R15

and more money doesnt mean more mind has again been proved

aren't majority of R15 buyers like this ? i mean not to this extent but they'd LOVE to change the tyres and what not. Have a look at the orkut R15 community ... ugh.... they come up with brilliant theories. queries like "fitting the tyre n swingarm of fz16 to r15 " etc etc are dominant.

Sarvajit · 12-31-2008, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenologik

-and we are talking about r_ping bikes here

- those alloys look good only on a RE Bullet and no other bike.
- the tyres are overkill.
- LED stripes

haw haw haw maybe this R15 belongs to an autowallah

- and the job is shoddy ...
- and he'll always be on braking power due to the contact between the caliper and the wheel itself lolx

anyhow a modded bike is never near to the real replica or what so ever. and after such a catastrophe ... heck ... i dont have words for this

so just consider it a bike getting modded to a dream bike

be it a pulsar, cbz, apache or the R15

and more money doesnt mean more mind has again been proved

aren't majority of R15 buyers like this ? i mean not to this extent but they'd LOVE to change the tyres and what not. Have a look at the orkut R15 community ... ugh.... they come up with brilliant theories. queries like "fitting the tyre n swingarm of fz16 to r15 " etc etc are dominant.

Lol, whats amazing is: this guy hasn't tried to replicate a bigger bike-he just messed up what was good enough in a brand new bike! God knows how much he paid for spoiling his new bike

! I guess I'll ask him how much he spent, coz I'm bound to see him pretty soon in Hyd. What a disgrace!

View Poll Results: What mileage are you getting on your R15?
30-34	8	13.33%
35-39	14	23.33%
40-44	29	48.33%
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50+ (You will qualify for The Slowest R15 Owner award if you pick this)	6	10.00%
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12-31-2008, 12:12 AM	#1974 (permalink)
HydBiker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 3,175	^^^ Mohan Baba @ Secunderbad. He has the God's grace and tremendous skill to turn those stickers into pieces of art... go, get your bike immortalized by him in the Taj TriStar lane... __________________

12-31-2008, 07:06 AM	#1976 (permalink)
Sarvajit Armour of Love Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 3,879	@HydBiker&Harsha: I think that riding style is good. I'm following it most of the time too. Changing gears at around 4-5K RPM in traffic&5-6K RPM on empty roads. Bike seems to pick up speed without sputtering even from 40 or so in 6th. @Suhail: You're right-overall it is a niche product, though minor niggles are in all vehicles. Like Archi&HydBiker say, it is mostly due to the after-sales service&attitude of the SS guys. @Archi: Thats what I was trying to tell you-tuning idling RPM does not affect fuel flow directly. The SS guys think that if they tune it to idle low it'll drink less petrol. Thats not true. You can't go below a particular setting or the engine will die down when at signals. In the effort to keep it idling people will have the throttle open a wee bit&that'll again start drinking fuel! I don't believe mileage can be set for an FI vehicle. The only thing for optimizing mileage is to eliminate dust from the air filter, clean the pipes etc.but there is no power or economy 'setting' as such like the carbs have. What you have done is increase the idling, which is helping your engine to get warm quicker, in turn helping in achieving a higher top whack. However, I believe it is going to eat away your engine life as well as FE(no.2 not a big issue, but no.1 is). Why don't you try this: Set the idle rpm to 12-1300, go for a 5km.ride at normal speed, then try to check the top whack? I believe you can still achieve the same top speed provided the engine is adequately warmed up. __________________ Cheap and Reliable is not Fast, Cheap and Fast is not Reliable, Fast and Reliable is not Cheap!

12-31-2008, 08:03 AM	#1977 (permalink)
HydBiker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 3,175	R15 Mods Ladies (if any) & Gentlemen I present to you here a Modded R15. I was almost in tears when I saw this baby... They're even planning a colour change after it visits the RTA for the registration number... Now, can someone list out the mods carried out on this bike... please... Let me try 1) Alloys & Tires changed. Rear - 150/80 x 15, Front - 120/?? x ?? 2) Dual Free Flow Exhausts. It was loud with two sounds 3) Dual HID kit 4) LED Strips everywhere... 5) Tail Lamp Assembly 6) Security System 7) Rear Mud Guard Cut to show the arse 8) Rear Suspension changed to some imported piece to increase height 9) Huge modification to the swing arm to fit the tire & the suspension. A tire hugger is planned for and are awaiting stock 10) Front indicators 11) Handlebar weights removed to push in the hand grips 12) Yamaha Logos Snatched and bike scratched 13) Rear Disk Calipers scratching the alloy Drum 14) Big Horns... see the red colour on the RHS beside the engine... All I could do was pity the owner! He handed it over to these guys and they screwed it up heavily! The engine malfunction light was blinking and they're not bothered about it even when I cautioned them twice... I just hope the owner likes all these mods! __________________

12-31-2008, 08:20 AM	#1978 (permalink)
Sarvajit Armour of Love Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 3,879	What a waste man! I've seen some well modified Pulsars at Poona Automobiles, Koti. One really looked almost like a Gixxer. Now, that was something worthwhile! The max modification I can imagine to an R15 is maybe fitting in an aftermarket exhaust (not 2!), fatter tyres, tyre hugger, HID. Rest of it-the bike is pretty sporty as it is. __________________ Cheap and Reliable is not Fast, Cheap and Fast is not Reliable, Fast and Reliable is not Cheap! Last edited by Sarvajit; 12-31-2008 at 08:23 AM.

12-30-2008, 11:03 PM	#1973 (permalink)
digislayer Open(Source) Knowledge. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 283	@KP/HydBiker: Baba.. where'd you get your white R15 sticker from baba?? (The one on your Display)

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