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pudix · 05-11-2009, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Satellite.kid

Designing is something which is improvised as time passes by. Hence, almost all vehicles in any market get a face lift regularly and this is not related to number of upgrades that same vehicle receives! This is more likely in case of successful vehicles because it is easier to capitalize on a successful vehicle's design by making it more beautiful as it is already a hit in the market!

FZ16 is a beautiful motorcycle, right? This is its X-factor we can say! And Yamaha increased its X-factor by introducing the FZ-S. Now, as we have seen internationally, there are two versions of Fazer - naked and semi-faired. So Yamaha seems to be doing the same thing with their FZ16, and what's wrong in that? They are simply following their international policy, having two versions of FZ16 - naked and semi-faired

Are we cool here?

Personally I feel that psychologically, people won't mind a premium on a semi-faired FZ1 over a naked FZ1 since these two bikes are already so powerful that a slightly higher price just by virtue of style will be acceptable. However, this kind of a premium on a 150cc motorcycle for the mass market will be hard to justify. Only for this reason, I would hope that the upcoming semi-faired FZ16 will have a more powerful engine

Having said that, Yamaha is going on a right path with their FZ16. They are kind of starting the international trend here.

And please, why would the current FZ owners will be pissed? There will always be someone who would purchase a bike just before its upgrade/face-lift is gonna hit in the market. So this argument about exclusivity is pointless, completely baseless. Period.

So what I am saying is. Facelifts happen everywhere, sooner or later. Like it or hate it

EDIT: @rakeshchn: That's why I want it to have a bigger engine

Thank you. I was going to point that exact thing out.

Another thing which strikes me is that we (as in majority of the people who post) do not constitute the mass buyer. We are, at best, a 40,000 strong force, and I guess even that is an extended extrapolation. That (mass buyer) tag goes to the millions and millions of people, who perhaps do not even surf the net. For them, power in a motorcycle is not primary. It is the fuel economy, followed by the looks. Though this order is debatable, it is a safe assumption that this is their ballpark. They want something cheap and good looking which good kilometers to the liter. HH are notorious here on xBHP for catering to that exact audience. Yamaha are simply following suit, albeit in a slightly more refined manner. They are creating miniatures of their international arsenal, and showcasing their strengths based on the brand value.

Creating a different engine segment would involve investment, and other incremental costs which would make even these smaller bikes too expensive for the mass buyer. And Yamaha do not want that. This new FZ, therefore, would be in the same engine capacity as the earlier FZ's. Sadly, the performance freaks are in a minority.

So, Yamaha, when's that bonsai V-Max coming?

Satellite.kid · 05-11-2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pudix

Yamaha are simply following suit, albeit in a slightly more refined manner. They are creating miniatures of their international arsenal, and showcasing their strengths based on the brand value.

Exactly

inflammable · 05-11-2009, 02:11 AM

I would say that... Thats a good move by Yamaha... Why... Adding a variety to their FIRST MOST SUCCESSFUL 4-STROKE MODEL in INDIA.
Secondly... Why does everyone cribs about adding more weight to the 153cc bike. Guys FUEL INJECTION... We might be missing this point. This bike might house Fuel Injection.

A counter move by Yamaha to the EXPECTED PULSAR 200-DTS-FI (As per my sources)...

To seperate the customer segment from the present FZ16... Yamaha might give this FZ the high tech Injection system. Its no visible in the pics... The Side panels might be housing a small radiater. What say???

Fuel injection would do the needful to compensate the added weight... And also imporve the performance.... Remember PULSAR 220... 5kgs extra weight & fuel injection.

Also it cant be said presently just by seeing in the pics that... engine is same 153cc... It might be 180-200cc mil... A bored out version of 153cc engine. same platform engine... will help Yamaha to keep the change cost low.

Rest of the spec seems same.. handle bar... rear shocks... tyres. Lets take a weight & watch policy.

Bladerunner · 05-11-2009, 06:43 AM

So is this the 250 I've been hearing about?

satyenpoojary · 05-11-2009, 08:46 AM

Ok so some more scoop....

This bike is Code Named FZ-Y (i wonder why?)
The bike is currenlty being tested... and will be out only by July end....

The mill thats poweing the bike is unknown, it has two additional variants... and the final one which will get selected is secret as always....

Oh and that fibre thingy is very very light

cyclone2k · 05-11-2009, 08:51 AM

Guys, isn't there any probability that these could be just modded versions??

Even if it is, or it is not, i.e. it is in Yamaha's pipeline... IMO, it looks nice and in proportion to overall body.. unlike P220 it atleast doesn't look funny

.. But, it still seems to still have drums in rear.. so, I feel Yammy should provide more goodies to make it a bang for the buck! If they're going to raise to 80k for just the fairing.. it'd be like a loot like buying iPhone for 30k when there are already better options and at lower prices.. Still there are certainly people, who'll certainly opt for this.. Market has every kind of buyer..

HH/ HMSI sells stickers and Yammy sells plastic.. nice..

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Originally Posted by satyenpoojary

This bike is Code Named FZ-Y (i wonder why?)

Maybe bcoz U and I won't buy it..

nitrosatya · 05-11-2009, 10:07 AM

Ok guys,just to get an idea on what this bike is based on,check out the images.
The Yamaha FZ6 Fazer.If the real thing is close to this,it will be great!

Or something like this?
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1617438/

Shadowfax · 05-11-2009, 10:16 AM

will be priced at least 80k

shaggy25 · 05-11-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadowfax

will be priced above 1 lac......

well, if its with the existing mill, I wudnt say that...but rest assured it will be overpriced

MG · 05-11-2009, 10:20 AM

This was always on the card and they have been planning to come with the half-faired FZ from a pretty long time. When the product was conceptualized this half faired version was also there.

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Originally Posted by spiderweb

With ZMA's price tag n the power n reliability it offers got no competation. Atleast not this Underpowered-Overpriced-Poserclass FZ...

90% of all the Karizma that are sold these days is only because it comes from HH,it is tere in the market for 6 years.People don't give a damn about the performance that Karizma has to offer.They just need a bike to show that are riding one of the expensive bikes in the market.FZ-Y can become a good competitor for Karizma only negative being Yamaha doesn't have the same brand association as HH.

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inflammable Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delhi - Pune Posts: 401	A good move I say I would say that... Thats a good move by Yamaha... Why... Adding a variety to their FIRST MOST SUCCESSFUL 4-STROKE MODEL in INDIA. Secondly... Why does everyone cribs about adding more weight to the 153cc bike. Guys FUEL INJECTION... We might be missing this point. This bike might house Fuel Injection. A counter move by Yamaha to the EXPECTED PULSAR 200-DTS-FI (As per my sources)... To seperate the customer segment from the present FZ16... Yamaha might give this FZ the high tech Injection system. Its no visible in the pics... The Side panels might be housing a small radiater. What say??? Fuel injection would do the needful to compensate the added weight... And also imporve the performance.... Remember PULSAR 220... 5kgs extra weight & fuel injection. Also it cant be said presently just by seeing in the pics that... engine is same 153cc... It might be 180-200cc mil... A bored out version of 153cc engine. same platform engine... will help Yamaha to keep the change cost low. Rest of the spec seems same.. handle bar... rear shocks... tyres. Lets take a weight & watch policy. __________________ Why Road Safety campaigns are not impacting people? To find How I am dealing with it.. Check this - LINK Road Safety Video

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satyenpoojary Sports CommuTOURer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On road Posts: 6,469	Ok so some more scoop.... This bike is Code Named FZ-Y (i wonder why?) The bike is currenlty being tested... and will be out only by July end.... The mill thats poweing the bike is unknown, it has two additional variants... and the final one which will get selected is secret as always.... Oh and that fibre thingy is very very light __________________ Super CommuTOURer™ - Talk less, Ride more *.: Facebook :.\|.: iTweet :.\|Do Not Click!\|I* follow PowerToTheRider:. #Give thy opinion, write em, dont throw em #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em ™ Satyen Poojary

05-11-2009, 10:07 AM	#77 (permalink)
nitrosatya Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Beijing,China Posts: 1,540	Ok guys,just to get an idea on what this bike is based on,check out the images. The Yamaha FZ6 Fazer.If the real thing is close to this,it will be great! Or something like this? http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1617438/ Last edited by nitrosatya; 05-11-2009 at 10:09 AM.

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