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Old 11-29-2010, 08:20 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Rules and Enforcement... My two cents of comic relief... and ofcourse if you could derive sense from it! Nothing like it!!

There are rules and 'enforcement' which prohibits 'rape' ... Go back to the line and read it again. While you are at it pardon the pun of the word enforcement.

So does that mean that a STRINGENT enforcement of the rule will ensure there ARENT any rape cases (or rape cases being reported? whichever is convenient to the rapist and the victim)

Or does that mean that having NO real rule or NO STRINGENT enforcement would mean every women in this planet (make that beautifull women if you wish) would get raped?

I guess the answer is a big fat No for both of them...

Our conditioning is also an important aspect in the things we do, or we chose to do... So either keep crying as hard as you can for the lack of rule or the lack of strict imposition OR atleast ensure YOU follow them, and try and do your bit in making people follow them too! I did my bit!
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:23 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:41 PM   #33 (permalink)
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lets say, you wake up late...the cop for a 100 bucks rather than 2000 ?
Yes, I'll try to bribe the cop; the cop will charge me Rs 2000 for the jump & Rs XX or may be direct to court for trying to bribe - simple.

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Maybe you wouldn't but the common man of the country would.
Depends which country!!!!

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Now take the case of a cop...to make sure that this person doesn't get corrupt ?
Corruption is like a cancer in this country right from the top to bottom, if we were to talk about this, we would keep talking for centuries!!! That would be ranting. No point ranting or complaining unless one cannot change or be a part of it.

Point - In this country, except population & aids all other things are declining including law. 1+ Billion people are thinking different ideas right from invention to jumping laws. No one can control them unless there's a strong force, which unfortunately the Govt is not playing.

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Rules and Enforcement... My two cents of comic relief... and ofcourse if you could derive sense from it! Nothing like it!!
Sry Satyen, can you be more clear on your point; I couldn't make out anything concrete except that you're part of the system &

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So does that mean...rapist and the victim)
It will bring down; I don't intent to say 0 defect, there should be law violaters & there still should be bad things happening. The good & the bad should coexist without which the entire system will collapse & that's what where we're heading.

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Or does that mean...would get raped?
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Our conditioning is also an important...making people follow them too! I did my bit!
That's exactly what I do; I start from me & do the change that I like to see instead of complaining on people. If law is enforced the results are quicker in action, that's my point.
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rules and enforcement... my two cents of comic relief... And ofcourse if you could derive sense from it! Nothing like it!!

there are rules and 'enforcement' which prohibits 'rape' ... go back to the line and read it again. while you are at it pardon the pun of the word enforcement.

so does that mean that a stringent enforcement of the rule will ensure there arent any rape cases (or rape cases being reported? whichever is convenient to the rapist and the victim)

or does that mean that having no real rule or no stringent enforcement would mean every women in this planet (make that beautifull women if you wish) would get raped?

I guess the answer is a big fat no for both of them...

Our conditioning is also an important aspect in the things we do, or we chose to do... So either keep crying as hard as you can for the lack of rule or the lack of strict imposition or atleast ensure you follow them, and try and do your bit in making people follow them too! I did my bit!


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That's exactly what I do; I start from me & do the change that I like to see instead of complaining on people. If law is enforced the results are quicker in action, that's my point.
you could also stop complaining on the government too :P
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I have read a few posts here and cannot agree with you guys more! precisely why you all will see a very important thread from me in a short while.

Let us be the ones who take the first step! Let us practice safe riding/driving ourselves first!

Let us be the change we want to see on our roads.

Together we can move mountains!

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you could also stop complaining on the government too :P
That's not a complaint, that's the duty of any EFFECIENT Govt that collects tax to provide better quality of life to people, which they don't do.

Besides, if everyone starts adhering to law, then there is no need for Govt.
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^correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't the Govt. enforce the Law?
On a more serious note, we have to start things ourselves first!
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^correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't the Govt. enforce the Law?
Enforcement & rules are 2 different things; for instance, "do not smoke in public" is what the rule says. It is expected that everyone follows the rules, if someone violates, the Govt ENFORCES the law through designated people such as cops, lawyers, auditor. Hope you got the difference. Now answer, do these guys do their jobs? Is the enforcement in place?

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On a more serious note, we have to start things ourselves first!
If all of us follow the rule book, there're no jobs for cops to clerks; that's why I said, the good & the bad should coexist. Even if one of them exist without the other, there will be a chaos, like what it is now.
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Enforcement & rules are 2 different things; for instance, "do not smoke in public" is what the rule says. It is expected that everyone follows the rules, if someone violates, the Govt ENFORCES the law through designated people such as cops, lawyers, auditor. Hope you got the difference. Now answer, do these guys do their jobs? Is the enforcement in place?



If all of us follow the rule book, there're no jobs for cops to clerks; that's why I said, the good & the bad should coexist. Even if one of them exist without the other, there will be a chaos, like what it is now.

Thank you for the explanation bro. Just what I wanted. yeah, these guys dont do their jobs. Which is why I feel that we need to take the first step. Which some of us here already have.


Cant agree with u more on the second part.
I would rather say that there should be a reversal of the % of good and bad.
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5)Always wear safety gear.
6)Alcohol is a strict NO!
7)Thou may lust after thy neighbour's bike specially if its of the R1 kind!
8)Thou shalt ride with 'ultra-most' care and caution when on Indian roads.
9)Thou shalt never leave the engine running at long traffic halts.
10)Thou shalt follow all of the above.

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