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yellowspunk · 07-30-2010, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Aryan

General Biking Discussion Approved.

thank you for approving the topic. i know this is a very late reply. i'm active on xbhp but i totally forgot about this topic i created lol

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Originally Posted by Grease Monk

THe google result you recieved is how the headlight flash is used abroad. For example, when a truck on the freeway in an adjacent lane wants to change lanes and has his indicator on, you can flash your headlight to indicate to him that he is clear to come into your lane and you do not wish to accelerate.

Most of the time the truckers even return with a 'thank you' flash from their hazard warning lights when done.

Another instance, when flashing the headlights is useful is when approaching 4 way junctions. Although there are a set of rules as to who gets right of way, in some instances, depending upon the timing of the approach of the vehicles to the junction, there may be some ambiguity. In this instance, any of the drivers who wants to give right of way to the other simply flashes their head lights to communicate to the other driver that they may proceed.

It is very interesting how this symbol has the opposite meaning in the west and in India. My interpretation of it is the mindset of people on the road. Abroad, everyone is worried about liability and negligence suits and there is a general sense of camaraderie or respect on the road. In India, on the other hand, it is a rat race where everyone wants to get to their destination as fast as possible and anyone who gets in their way be damned. Me-first, see a gap - take it, all are attitudes of Indian drivers\riders that we need to grow out of considering the volumes of vehicles we have on the road.

perfectly true ! thanks bro..

that is what i understood of it too but got confused..

1.When coming from behind I use pass to show my intention of overtaking. i dont keep pressing it.. i just give a blip or two.

2.When coming from behind i use it to tell the driver in front that he is using up my space or coming too close to me.

3.When i'm coming from the opposite direction, i use it to tell them to give way for me. (if they flash back i slow down)

4.also when the opposite vehicle is using high-beam which blinds me.

i almost never honk at night.. i hate horns !!

Prakritij · 07-30-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jd666

I use it for two instances, to let the person know who i am overtaking, that i am overtaking him, by flashing my headlight behind him. And other when i dont have adequate road width ( or safe road width ), available, because the oncoming vehicle is overtaking another vehicle or too much on the wrong side ( mainly on a two way highway), to warn him that i dont have adequate space, and he should move back into his lane.

same here

RIDE SAFE

Prakritij · 07-30-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ceasar

i also use it to warn oncoming vehicles if their head lights are on high beam and if they're blinding me,i flash the light and some polite people on two-wheeler and some times 4 wheeler switch to low beam,some times even truck drivers flash their lights ..but these bus drivers never bother to do that,they are the most reckless drivers on the road.

very true and happens all the time with me

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tibby · 07-30-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jd666

Not if the car driver stops his car, turns about and comes chasing your down for showing him that. Happened to my friend. and it was his fault for showing his finger when he should've flashed his beam.

Hehe.. I did something similar to a Meru cab here in B'lore. Didn't expect a chase, but he did chase me. A flyover came to my rescue!!

If not for the flyover, I was a goner!

Learnt from my mistake big time, & never do that now.

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Originally Posted by yellowspunk

1.When coming from behind I use pass to show my intention of overtaking. i dont keep pressing it.. i just give a blip or two.

2.When coming from behind i use it to tell the driver in front that he is using up my space or coming too close to me.

3.When i'm coming from the opposite direction, i use it to tell them to give way for me. (if they flash back i slow down)

4.also when the opposite vehicle is using high-beam which blinds me.

Exactly how & why I use the dipper switch too!

The googled information posted by a member is not relevant in the Indian driving/ riding context. The above 4 points pretty much sum up the use of dipper/ pass light in India IMO.

Ganeshan · 08-01-2010, 09:30 PM

This is really interesting because in Europe we also have the same dilemma in that flashing lights means one thing is one country, and another thing in another country.

Here in Portugal if someone flashes you it means "Don't move, don't even think about it, I'm coming fast and have no intention to slow down". That would apply if you were waiting to pull out at a junction, or about to overtake a vehicle. But in England that would generally mean "Go on, pull out, or overtake". Opposite meanings that can cause deadly accidents...

In the UK advanced motorcycle course it is stated "Flashing headlights should only be used for one purpose: to inform other road users of your presence when the horn would not be heard, and in place of the horn at night. Never assume that a headlight flash is a signal to proceed and be aware that some drivers may interpret a headlight flash as an act of aggression." That last bit is quite interesting as it's basically saying that the wrong headlight flash in Britain could lead to road rage.

daredemon · 08-01-2010, 10:34 PM

In foreign countries when they flash once means you can go ahead.
Flash twice means i want to overtake - give me way

But here in india its totally opposite
you flash once or twice it means to give way - i want to overtake.

I am totally against honking. Its a big noise pollution plus sometimes
it even irritates. And here people are always in a hurry to get to their destination.

I guess here in india we are not taught the manners of riding and i think
it will be diffcult in the future also due to our ever growing population.

Its only riders like us who can spread this awareness amongst others as well the future budding youths.

pulsater · 08-01-2010, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Grease Monk

THe google result you recieved is how the headlight flash is used abroad. For example, when a truck on the freeway in an adjacent lane wants to change lanes and has his indicator on, you can flash your headlight to indicate to him that he is clear to come into your lane and you do not wish to accelerate.

Most of the time the truckers even return with a 'thank you' flash from their hazard warning lights when done.

Another instance, when flashing the headlights is useful is when approaching 4 way junctions. Although there are a set of rules as to who gets right of way, in some instances, depending upon the timing of the approach of the vehicles to the junction, there may be some ambiguity. In this instance, any of the drivers who wants to give right of way to the other simply flashes their head lights to communicate to the other driver that they may proceed.

It is very interesting how this symbol has the opposite meaning in the west and in India. My interpretation of it is the mindset of people on the road. Abroad, everyone is worried about liability and negligence suits and there is a general sense of camaraderie or respect on the road. In India, on the other hand, it is a rat race where everyone wants to get to their destination as fast as possible and anyone who gets in their way be damned. Me-first, see a gap - take it, all are attitudes of Indian drivers\riders that we need to grow out of considering the volumes of vehicles we have on the road.

you just saved my time typing all that. Spot on.

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Originally Posted by Ganeshan

This is really interesting because in Europe we also have the same dilemma in that flashing lights means one thing is one country, and another thing in another country.

Here in Portugal (or Spain) if someone flashes you it means "Don't move, don't even think about it, I'm coming fast and have no intention to slow down". That would apply if you were waiting to pull out at a junction, or about to overtake a vehicle. But in England that would generally mean "Go on, pull out, or overtake". Opposite meanings that can cause deadly accidents...

thanks for mentioning, didn't knew that.

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Originally Posted by Ganeshan

In the UK advanced motorcycle course it is stated "Flashing headlights should only be used for one purpose: to inform other road users of your presence when the horn would not be heard, and in place of the horn at night. Never assume that a headlight flash is a signal to proceed and be aware that some drivers may interpret a headlight flash as an act of aggression." That last bit is quite interesting as it's basically saying that the wrong headlight flash in Britain could lead to road rage.

this is even more interesting. Its TOTALLY opposite of what road users practise in UK. Are you sure about this?

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Originally Posted by nirav46

The Pass light is used for 3 reason

1.To let the person ahead you know that you wish to overtake.

But is it really the correct use of passing light in India? To be honest, I have been doing the same thing all my life while riding and driving back in my hometown. Can anyone actually give a link or source of complete traffic rules in India please?

madhav krishna · 08-01-2010, 11:59 PM

i use the flash lights for

1. If someone is using high beam i use it rapidly to make the other rider use low beam.
2. to overtake
3. If someone is coming infront of me & we have a chance of collision then i use it to intimate the other rider.

ravisanjeevk · 08-02-2010, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by madhav krishna

i use the flash lights for

1. If someone is using high beam i use it rapidly to make the other rider use low beam.
2. to overtake
3. If someone is coming infront of me & we have a chance of collision then i use it to intimate the other rider.

Just my experience on road.
I do the same thing but one more instance where I use the light.

I travel Mangalore- Bangalore regularly and I know most of the Volvo Drivers of KSRTC as we stop at a common destination for tea/snacks. Some time I would be traveling in opposite direction. When we pass through each other and don't have time to stop for a chat. Either me or the Volvo Driver gives me a pass several times and honks when he is just passing me. When I know it is a driver that I know I return by flashing at him saying I have acknowledge the signal and honk/wave towards him.

Both of wave if we get a chance.

Ganeshan · 08-02-2010, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pulsater

this is even more interesting. Its TOTALLY opposite of what road users practise in UK. Are you sure about this?

Yes definitely, well at least this is just what it says in my IAM course book, Motorcycle Roadcraft.

08-01-2010, 09:30 PM	#25 (permalink)
Ganeshan Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lisbon Posts: 64	This is really interesting because in Europe we also have the same dilemma in that flashing lights means one thing is one country, and another thing in another country. Here in Portugal if someone flashes you it means "Don't move, don't even think about it, I'm coming fast and have no intention to slow down". That would apply if you were waiting to pull out at a junction, or about to overtake a vehicle. But in England that would generally mean "Go on, pull out, or overtake". Opposite meanings that can cause deadly accidents... In the UK advanced motorcycle course it is stated "Flashing headlights should only be used for one purpose: to inform other road users of your presence when the horn would not be heard, and in place of the horn at night. Never assume that a headlight flash is a signal to proceed and be aware that some drivers may interpret a headlight flash as an act of aggression." That last bit is quite interesting as it's basically saying that the wrong headlight flash in Britain could lead to road rage. __________________ Ride with your head, not your emotions. Last edited by Ganeshan; 08-12-2010 at 02:00 AM.

08-01-2010, 10:34 PM	#26 (permalink)
daredemon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 313	Flashers In foreign countries when they flash once means you can go ahead. Flash twice means i want to overtake - give me way But here in india its totally opposite you flash once or twice it means to give way - i want to overtake. I am totally against honking. Its a big noise pollution plus sometimes it even irritates. And here people are always in a hurry to get to their destination. I guess here in india we are not taught the manners of riding and i think it will be diffcult in the future also due to our ever growing population. Its only riders like us who can spread this awareness amongst others as well the future budding youths. __________________ Burn ur rubber not ur soul... so keep riding and hv fun!!! http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/showthread.php?t=17910

08-01-2010, 11:59 PM	#28 (permalink)
madhav krishna BANNED Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bangalore, hyderabad Posts: 1,429	i use the flash lights for 1. If someone is using high beam i use it rapidly to make the other rider use low beam. 2. to overtake 3. If someone is coming infront of me & we have a chance of collision then i use it to intimate the other rider. __________________ my facebook account http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.p...00000743704153 NOT BEEN THERE NOT DONE THAT

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