kaynmantis

Come on, Pulsar being Indian doesn't make it youthful. Farmer? maybe .

satishg

yamaha being a company with all those "R" up thier sleeve, sweating it out in motorsports etc..

Bajaj gets the VFM image, nothing more than that

bhargava_sr

Nothing better than Yams, Pulsars are always behind R15's in terms of youthful looks

JAKRAP

Well here are my two cents.
Once up on a time standardization was the way across the globe and ppl wanted standard products across the globe. The Yamahas, Hondas et al took it up and raced along and made excellent products and delivered all across the globe (Yamaha tried it in India in the form of RD-350 but it failed as the bike was way ahead of the market and the Indians were pretty poor at that time).
Then came the "Think Global but act local" generation in the 2000s with lots of Moolah accessible to them but still yards short of the international market. Bajaj was absolutely fantastic in reading this market and gave the Pulsars at a lower cost to the majority of the young generation inside India. Advantage Pulsar here for capturing the Indian Youth here.

But the question is again which would youth prefer ?

Anyone from 1990s-1999 (am assuming the age when ppl reach 16-17)would point out that its the Yams which would be more youthful bcos they got to ride the Yams (RX-100) and the RD-350.

The Post 2000 generation would give a definite thumbs up on the Pulsar cos the Pulsar was much better than the Yams and the Yams where no where near.

So the fight of Yams vs Pulsars

Pre-2000: Clearly Yams. No Pulsars back then
Pre-2010: Clearly Pulsars

So what is youthful for one generation is not for the next. The youth of current generation lets say pre-2020 would decide whats more youthful than this old writer (not very old thou).

So how about the Post 2010 (or pre-2020) generation??? Will it be Yams or the Pulsars??

The trend changed post 2010 when the Yams launched the R-15 and now the youths want more of the R-15 than the new 220s. This was bcos the Yams were able to tweak a world class product and localize it for the Indian Market. It took them 6-7 years to understand the market.

Pre-2020: Yams are giving the Pulsars a definite run for the money.I bet on the Yams bcos they have the fire power and the young ones are getting much higher money these days to afford the Yams. So in an evolving market with youngsters having much better access to money, the I favor the Yams. Pulsars would soon be extinct unless they get their tails up once again

* I belong to the pre-2000 (I hit 19 in Y2K).

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killer_instinct

Hit the nail on the head.

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abishekkrishna

i would say pulsar being an indian brand gives a gr8 competition to yamaha, yamaha has a mask of the brand and a rossi to keep it moving and i feel it too much to pay near 1 lakh for a 150 cc vehicle and more than one lakh for just a broad tyred vehicle with a fairing[yes i mean the fairing] when the normal fz is in 74k approx the add a fairin to it n call it fazer n boose up the price n also call it a tourin bike with out even increasing the capacity of fuel tank were as i might jus go for a p220 rather than r15 not only saving some ks
but also more powerful and yamaha has notn yet understood the indians and have taken them for granted so i clearly vote the pulsars are much better than yamahas and i will also rank yamahas value for price is zero i know people cryin over cheap plastic parts and scoops instead of tanks and poor mileage and low pick up and a unsensible price tag but i do accept with the styling of fz

so i wish to make myself clear to vote for pulsars and its is more worth for the monet given and are more durable and no offence to yamaha riders

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yamahatrooper

Correction mate! The fazer costs about 80k OTR aprox and it is 7 K more than the base FZ. Adn it s not just a bike with a wider tyre and a fairing. The FZ is way ahead of the p150s and p180s in the handling department the pulsars do not come close to teh Yammie with handling even with their supeierior power the Pulsars get rings blown around them by Yamahas simply becuase of the handling capabiltes, you can take corners much tighter and the braking is way better. And the styling of the FZ series tahts atleast a couple of generations ahead of what the bajaj boffins can get upto with their Pulsar band wagon. And dont5 the pulsars remind of a milk packet I mean to draw an analogy

1l milk:2l milk: 5l milk :: P150:P180:P220.

It just ends up taking away teh exclusivity of buying a premium product. In looks the p220 s looks almost like the p150 to a layman's eye!

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DKGbond3

no brand wars.. just read your post and found it little funny

going by your analogy, R1 = 1L milk and R15 = 0.11L milk (similar, isn't it?)

doesn't the new fazer finds itself very much similar to the fz-16; which in turn was very similar to its father, the FZ-1?

wasn't the styling of the pulsar generations ahead of all others (that were present in the indian market) when it was launched?

these were just something which came instantaneously to my mind after reading your post..
~respect and peace~

to add some value to the post, yes, the yamaha definitely is the eye-candy, and the handling part too! but then, you mentioned yourself that the pulsar is the more powerful among the too, and looks ain't that bad either. both have goods and bads, which vary according to the mindset of a rider. not in a mood to compare the two now!

cheers

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yamahatrooper

No mate it's more like R1:Superbike::R15:Superbike replica.

Yes, internationally also the Fazer is the Faired version of the FZ1 and here to the Fazer is the faired version of the FZ again goin by my logic.

FZ1/FAZER: Sexy naked street sports:: FZ16: Sexy Naked street sprots replica.

Considering Indian road conditions and the traffic and the cost factor Yamaha have given us the indian youth great motorcycles that carry the lineage of international legends the R1 and the FZ1 and the R15 and the FZ series are well on their way of getting there in an Indian context.

And now about my like logic a milk packet looks like any other milk packet of whatever capacity and so do pulsars.

This was back in the day mate and Thats why i bought a P180 ug1 back in 2002 could not come to terms with it's handling, overall lack of refinement in build quality, low level of service support and gave it up for a bullet after using it for 18000 kms in 9 months.

Respect peace n Namste to you my freind.

Adding to this YAMAHA s are not just about eye candy they re about building motorcycles with charecter, reliabilty and dependancy. And the youthful eye candy is just the bonus.

The YAMAHA stays ahead.

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Zamaan

Just compare Pulsar's history with Yamaha's ! You'll know

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