Which is the most youthful brand - Yamaha or Pulsar? Discuss and vote. - Page 8 - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

vijaydutt · 02-10-2010, 01:55 PM

"Yamaha" for ever...that's my choice

tejasmph · 02-12-2010, 03:43 AM

yammy all the way but yamaha vs pulsar!!! yammy has a lot of weight as pulsar is only a single bike not like pulsar vs r15.....

drvmtm · 03-06-2010, 06:07 PM

i am writing in the basis of indian context,not so called international branding!!!!!!
The Yamaha RX100 is a 98cc two-stroke single cylinder air cooled motorcycle. It was M/s Escorts Limited "Bread and Butter" model for close to 12 years between 1985 and 1996. The only changes in its 11 year production history were the pin striping and an upgrade to a 12 volt electrical system.
--source wikipedia.

The Rajdoot 350 was a two-stroke motorcycle made in India by Escorts group from 1983 to 1990. It was a licenced copy of the very popular Yamaha RD350B, modified to suit Indian conditions. Many Indian motorcycle connoisseurs consider it to be the best two-stroke ever made in India. Even though the production of the air cooled Yamaha RD350 had ended in Japan in the mid 1970s due to stringent emissions norms, it was a technically advanced motorcycle in the Indian market in 1983. It had 7-port two stroke parallel twin engine, Yamaha's patented Torque Induction system using reed valves, 6-speed transmission, Auto lube system, mechanical tachometer,12V electrics and 0-60km/h in less than 4 seconds. In the interest of cost, the front disc brake of the RD350B was substituted with a 7" Twin leading shoe drum brake from the Yamaha RD250.
source wikipedia.

what flashes in our minds when we say yamaha,,,,,,if r1,mt1 then there is no point of discussing anything,it like comparing bill gates to ramu kaka of our old hindi movies.......

if yamaha name flashes models like rxs,Rajdoot 350 or even new generation r 15(too good ,must say here),fz then there is a chance of talking here.

i personally trust Yamaha very much,as i was a gear head from the regaining,i used to drool over rx s,still get a huge amount of adrenaline rush by riding them,..
but the scenario changed in our Desi country from 90s where a motorcycle means A HUGE MACHINE,NOT IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE THOUGH,ONLY ONE THING ECONOMY,,,,,,,,,,!!!!
I STILL REMEMBER THE LINES OF THE ADVERTS ....ek liter pe assi kilometer chalta hai, and so on.....

just remember those days,only flooded with economy commuters to which mechines PERFORMENCE MEANS ONLY AND ONLY FUEL ECONOMY!!add some scooters from lml and vespa licensed old copies made by OUR VERY OWN BAJAJ........the performance was dying in vein.....pathetic....

we ,so called performance addicts ,what we used to ride then,please remember once....

then Hero Honda CBZ, launched in early 1999 by Hero Honda Motors India Ltd, was the first sports oriented 4-stroke bike. Sporting an original Honda 156.8 cc engine, it made good 12.8PS of power which was sufficient enough to propel it to 110[120 on Speedo] km/h. The styling of the bike was a scaled version of the famous Honda CB series. Sufficient mid-range torque ensured a 0–60 km/h (0-37 mph) in just 5 seconds.

it was a drooling metrical ,well at least to me when i was growing up,a zippy engine /fairing/rear sets/ it was too good.......

but the toxicity of MILAGE KITNA HAI? sting so many of us ..even guys who now owns superbikes trust me on this,,,parents used to tell,RACING KAROGE KYA ITNA BADA ENGINE LEKE!!! KOI DHANG KI BIKE LO JISME KAAM NIPAT JAYE AUR PATROL BHI JYADA NA PIE,.PRICE DEKHE HO?PARTS KITNA MEHENGA HOGA?!!!MAA KA LAADLA BIGAD GAYA!!!

i must say hh broke the age old ice,which defiantly made rajiv bajaj to think at least.and Yamaha? call it a bad luck?call it a lack of will?or just bogus management they were silent and making some machines which were only deteriorating their rapo....

then in 2001 Bajaj Pulsar,,,,,, is a motorcycle brand owned by Bajaj Auto in India. The two wheeler was developed by the product engineering division of Bajaj Auto in association with motorcycle designer Glynn Kerr Tokyo R&D.
just think about the amount of enthusiasm was present at that time....
a naked street fighter ,not merely a japanese copy cat/not an engine which was made by another manufacture for another bike..its a complete born of a new era,a brand which changed the entire motorcycling experiance in india. just remember the promoes ,the ads,altogether india was suffering from a commuter fever,that stage came to an end suddenly with a massive dose from pulsars.
i can bet so many of now days of bikers were born at that time,.
just see the amount of upgrades from a so called indian scooter maker that not just only comprised of mere decals or visor change,,,even the term up gread term ug came because of bajajs endless trys to update the product,,,,classic/ug1/2/3/4,,bigger bore,smaller bore damn bajaj tried their best,i will say more then their capability,,,,,they brought competition which were practically abcent till then,where was our international players then.
I CAN SAY THIS BOLDLY BAJAJ PULSAR MATURED THE INDIAN BIKERS TO DARE/DARE FOR BIGGER ENGINES/MORE POWER/MORE TECHNOLOGY/demand more....
now close to 9 years after its launch its still popular/look at the sales figure and you will know.still the product is at per with other so called market leaders.
now yamaha with r 15 and fz having the part of the pie which bajaj pulsar had created for last 9 years,.no argue that products from yamie are very very impressive

but according to me bajaj pulsar is a true blue collar bike in india and my vote goes for pulsars,which dared to be different at the time of copycats,and changed the entire scenario,kudos bajaj/kudos MR.RAJIV BAJAJ period...

Abhi_ko · 03-07-2010, 12:36 AM

PULSARS ANY DAY....Atleast I don't want to ride a scaled down version of any sbk.And if we talk about indian market then yamaha stands nowhere infront of bajaj.Although they have a better tech but the prices are still way beyond many of Indian buyers.Even many people who have r15 dosen't know well about the machine,they just buy it for looks and unfortunately one is my friend also.So for me Bajaj wins the race with p220.

joelkraju · 03-07-2010, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drvmtm

i am writing in the basis of indian context,not so called international branding!!!!!!
The Yamaha RX100 is a 98cc two-stroke single cylinder air cooled motorcycle. It was M/s Escorts Limited "Bread and Butter" model for close to 12 years between 1985 and 1996. The only changes in its 11 year production history were the pin striping and an upgrade to a 12 volt electrical system.
--source wikipedia.

The Rajdoot 350 was a two-stroke motorcycle made in India by Escorts group from 1983 to 1990. It was a licenced copy of the very popular Yamaha RD350B, modified to suit Indian conditions. Many Indian motorcycle connoisseurs consider it to be the best two-stroke ever made in India. Even though the production of the air cooled Yamaha RD350 had ended in Japan in the mid 1970s due to stringent emissions norms, it was a technically advanced motorcycle in the Indian market in 1983. It had 7-port two stroke parallel twin engine, Yamaha's patented Torque Induction system using reed valves, 6-speed transmission, Auto lube system, mechanical tachometer,12V electrics and 0-60km/h in less than 4 seconds. In the interest of cost, the front disc brake of the RD350B was substituted with a 7" Twin leading shoe drum brake from the Yamaha RD250.
source wikipedia.

what flashes in our minds when we say yamaha,,,,,,if r1,mt1 then there is no point of discussing anything,it like comparing bill gates to ramu kaka of our old hindi movies.......

if yamaha name flashes models like rxs,Rajdoot 350 or even new generation r 15(too good ,must say here),fz then there is a chance of talking here.

i personally trust Yamaha very much,as i was a gear head from the regaining,i used to drool over rx s,still get a huge amount of adrenaline rush by riding them,..
but the scenario changed in our Desi country from 90s where a motorcycle means A HUGE MACHINE,NOT IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE THOUGH,ONLY ONE THING ECONOMY,,,,,,,,,,!!!!
I STILL REMEMBER THE LINES OF THE ADVERTS ....ek liter pe assi kilometer chalta hai, and so on.....

just remember those days,only flooded with economy commuters to which mechines PERFORMENCE MEANS ONLY AND ONLY FUEL ECONOMY!!add some scooters from lml and vespa licensed old copies made by OUR VERY OWN BAJAJ........the performance was dying in vein.....pathetic....

we ,so called performance addicts ,what we used to ride then,please remember once....

then Hero Honda CBZ, launched in early 1999 by Hero Honda Motors India Ltd, was the first sports oriented 4-stroke bike. Sporting an original Honda 156.8 cc engine, it made good 12.8PS of power which was sufficient enough to propel it to 110[120 on Speedo] km/h. The styling of the bike was a scaled version of the famous Honda CB series. Sufficient mid-range torque ensured a 0–60 km/h (0-37 mph) in just 5 seconds.

it was a drooling metrical ,well at least to me when i was growing up,a zippy engine /fairing/rear sets/ it was too good.......

but the toxicity of MILAGE KITNA HAI? sting so many of us ..even guys who now owns superbikes trust me on this,,,parents used to tell,RACING KAROGE KYA ITNA BADA ENGINE LEKE!!! KOI DHANG KI BIKE LO JISME KAAM NIPAT JAYE AUR PATROL BHI JYADA NA PIE,.PRICE DEKHE HO?PARTS KITNA MEHENGA HOGA?!!!MAA KA LAADLA BIGAD GAYA!!!

i must say hh broke the age old ice,which defiantly made rajiv bajaj to think at least.and Yamaha? call it a bad luck?call it a lack of will?or just bogus management they were silent and making some machines which were only deteriorating their rapo....

then in 2001 Bajaj Pulsar,,,,,, is a motorcycle brand owned by Bajaj Auto in India. The two wheeler was developed by the product engineering division of Bajaj Auto in association with motorcycle designer Glynn Kerr Tokyo R&D.
just think about the amount of enthusiasm was present at that time....
a naked street fighter ,not merely a japanese copy cat/not an engine which was made by another manufacture for another bike..its a complete born of a new era,a brand which changed the entire motorcycling experiance in india. just remember the promoes ,the ads,altogether india was suffering from a commuter fever,that stage came to an end suddenly with a massive dose from pulsars.
i can bet so many of now days of bikers were born at that time,.
just see the amount of upgrades from a so called indian scooter maker that not just only comprised of mere decals or visor change,,,even the term up gread term ug came because of bajajs endless trys to update the product,,,,classic/ug1/2/3/4,,bigger bore,smaller bore damn bajaj tried their best,i will say more then their capability,,,,,they brought competition which were practically abcent till then,where was our international players then.
I CAN SAY THIS BOLDLY BAJAJ PULSAR MATURED THE INDIAN BIKERS TO DARE/DARE FOR BIGGER ENGINES/MORE POWER/MORE TECHNOLOGY/demand more....
now close to 9 years after its launch its still popular/look at the sales figure and you will know.still the product is at per with other so called market leaders.
now yamaha with r 15 and fz having the part of the pie which bajaj pulsar had created for last 9 years,.no argue that products from yamie are very very impressive

but according to me bajaj pulsar is a true blue collar bike in india and my vote goes for pulsars,which dared to be different at the time of copycats,and changed the entire scenario,kudos bajaj/kudos MR.RAJIV BAJAJ period...

amazin..excellent write up...........i am a proud pulsar owner...........heh ma vote to pulsar

Sumit_Singh · 03-07-2010, 03:44 AM

First of all, is it yamaha vs Bajaj or Yamaha vs Pulsar,,, whatever,,, you said it........ One product for all products of Yamaha............

My Vote goes to Pulsar....................

tigersyndicate · 03-08-2010, 09:22 PM

vote for pulsar... hehehe

avilash · 03-08-2010, 11:25 PM

Pulsar all the way..!

2006 LML BEAMER sold
2007 pulsar 150ug3 sold
2010 pulsar 220 f,,,,,, Playing now

kaynmantis · 03-08-2010, 11:54 PM

Am not a person that goes after brand. I go after good machines. Doesn't matter who built it. Whoever built a good one get my nod of approval. Manufacturers responds to competition. Its won't be outrageous to assume that we would still be driving Ambassadors and Mahindra Jeeps if Maruti Suzuki did not enter the scenario. At the same time it won't be outrageous to assume that we may still be driving maruti 800 had others not enter the Indian car industry. In all likelyhood Maruti may be happily churning out 800's year after year with perhaps a slight upgrade in a decade like mirrors and stuffs like that. Its the nature of the market. Who should takes the honour of changing the scene is a very debatable question. As I see it, all these changes are reaction to one another like the story of "chick or the egg". What if CBZ never came into existance? Maybe we'll all be riding RX100 today albeit a four stroke RX 100. Maybe not. Maybe Bajaj would come up with something that is closer to RX. Mayne not. So do we attribute the honour to CBZ and Hero Honda? or perhaps Narasima Rao for liberating Indian market? Its hard to say how history would have been written.

Why do I need to bother myself with such matters. Just focus on what there is today and see who is delivering, and by this, it has to be Yamaha. But stick around for some time, things will change quickly by todays pace of change. Thats how market works. So for now, both thumbs up to Yamaha.

krates · 03-09-2010, 12:54 AM

Yamaha +1 it changed the way i used to think about bikes...

View Poll Results: Which is the most "Youthful" brand of the two?
Yamaha	122	56.48%
Pulsar	89	41.20%
Can't say, I'm undecided	5	2.31%
Voters: 216. This poll is closed

02-10-2010, 01:55 PM	#71 (permalink)
vijaydutt Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: bangalore, Karnataka, India. Posts: 210	"Yamaha" for ever...that's my choice __________________ Yamaha Enticer: 2003 - SOLD Royal Enfield Thunderbird : 2005 - SOLD Yamaha FZ 16: 2008 - SOLD Honda CBR250R : 2011

03-06-2010, 06:07 PM	#73 (permalink)
drvmtm Doctor and GEARHEAD. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mylapore,CHENNAI........ Posts: 748	bajaj all the way i am writing in the basis of indian context,not so called international branding!!!!!! The Yamaha RX100 is a 98cc two-stroke single cylinder air cooled motorcycle. It was M/s Escorts Limited "Bread and Butter" model for close to 12 years between 1985 and 1996. The only changes in its 11 year production history were the pin striping and an upgrade to a 12 volt electrical system. --source wikipedia. The Rajdoot 350 was a two-stroke motorcycle made in India by Escorts group from 1983 to 1990. It was a licenced copy of the very popular Yamaha RD350B, modified to suit Indian conditions. Many Indian motorcycle connoisseurs consider it to be the best two-stroke ever made in India. Even though the production of the air cooled Yamaha RD350 had ended in Japan in the mid 1970s due to stringent emissions norms, it was a technically advanced motorcycle in the Indian market in 1983. It had 7-port two stroke parallel twin engine, Yamaha's patented Torque Induction system using reed valves, 6-speed transmission, Auto lube system, mechanical tachometer,12V electrics and 0-60km/h in less than 4 seconds. In the interest of cost, the front disc brake of the RD350B was substituted with a 7" Twin leading shoe drum brake from the Yamaha RD250. source wikipedia. what flashes in our minds when we say yamaha,,,,,,if r1,mt1 then there is no point of discussing anything,it like comparing bill gates to ramu kaka of our old hindi movies....... if yamaha name flashes models like rxs,Rajdoot 350 or even new generation r 15(too good ,must say here),fz then there is a chance of talking here. i personally trust Yamaha very much,as i was a gear head from the regaining,i used to drool over rx s,still get a huge amount of adrenaline rush by riding them,.. but the scenario changed in our Desi country from 90s where a motorcycle means A HUGE MACHINE,NOT IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE THOUGH,ONLY ONE THING ECONOMY,,,,,,,,,,!!!! I STILL REMEMBER THE LINES OF THE ADVERTS ....ek liter pe assi kilometer chalta hai, and so on..... just remember those days,only flooded with economy commuters to which mechines PERFORMENCE MEANS ONLY AND ONLY FUEL ECONOMY!!add some scooters from lml and vespa licensed old copies made by OUR VERY OWN BAJAJ........the performance was dying in vein.....pathetic.... we ,so called performance addicts ,what we used to ride then,please remember once.... then Hero Honda CBZ, launched in early 1999 by Hero Honda Motors India Ltd, was the first sports oriented 4-stroke bike. Sporting an original Honda 156.8 cc engine, it made good 12.8PS of power which was sufficient enough to propel it to 110[120 on Speedo] km/h. The styling of the bike was a scaled version of the famous Honda CB series. Sufficient mid-range torque ensured a 0–60 km/h (0-37 mph) in just 5 seconds. it was a drooling metrical ,well at least to me when i was growing up,a zippy engine /fairing/rear sets/ it was too good....... but the toxicity of MILAGE KITNA HAI? sting so many of us ..even guys who now owns superbikes trust me on this,,,parents used to tell,RACING KAROGE KYA ITNA BADA ENGINE LEKE!!! KOI DHANG KI BIKE LO JISME KAAM NIPAT JAYE AUR PATROL BHI JYADA NA PIE,.PRICE DEKHE HO?PARTS KITNA MEHENGA HOGA?!!!MAA KA LAADLA BIGAD GAYA!!! i must say hh broke the age old ice,which defiantly made rajiv bajaj to think at least.and Yamaha? call it a bad luck?call it a lack of will?or just bogus management they were silent and making some machines which were only deteriorating their rapo.... then in 2001 Bajaj Pulsar,,,,,, is a motorcycle brand owned by Bajaj Auto in India. The two wheeler was developed by the product engineering division of Bajaj Auto in association with motorcycle designer Glynn Kerr Tokyo R&D. just think about the amount of enthusiasm was present at that time.... a naked street fighter ,not merely a japanese copy cat/not an engine which was made by another manufacture for another bike..its a complete born of a new era,a brand which changed the entire motorcycling experiance in india. just remember the promoes ,the ads,altogether india was suffering from a commuter fever,that stage came to an end suddenly with a massive dose from pulsars. i can bet so many of now days of bikers were born at that time,. just see the amount of upgrades from a so called indian scooter maker that not just only comprised of mere decals or visor change,,,even the term up gread term ug came because of bajajs endless trys to update the product,,,,classic/ug1/2/3/4,,bigger bore,smaller bore damn bajaj tried their best,i will say more then their capability,,,,,they brought competition which were practically abcent till then,where was our international players then. I CAN SAY THIS BOLDLY BAJAJ PULSAR MATURED THE INDIAN BIKERS TO DARE/DARE FOR BIGGER ENGINES/MORE POWER/MORE TECHNOLOGY/demand more.... now close to 9 years after its launch its still popular/look at the sales figure and you will know.still the product is at per with other so called market leaders. now yamaha with r 15 and fz having the part of the pie which bajaj pulsar had created for last 9 years,.no argue that products from yamie are very very impressive but according to me bajaj pulsar is a true blue collar bike in india and my vote goes for pulsars,which dared to be different at the time of copycats,and changed the entire scenario,kudos bajaj/kudos MR.RAJIV BAJAJ period... __________________ RIDE AND DRIVE SAFE AND PLEASE CHANGE THE PICTURE ON INDIAN ROADS. my thoughts,my area,my game....http://vmtm.blogspot.com/ IF YOU LOVE MAINTAINING YOUR RIDE..http://nexgenbikes.com/site/

03-07-2010, 12:36 AM	#74 (permalink)
Abhi_ko Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 51	PULSARS ANY DAY....Atleast I don't want to ride a scaled down version of any sbk.And if we talk about indian market then yamaha stands nowhere infront of bajaj.Although they have a better tech but the prices are still way beyond many of Indian buyers.Even many people who have r15 dosen't know well about the machine,they just buy it for looks and unfortunately one is my friend also.So for me Bajaj wins the race with p220. __________________ BE LOYAL TO THE MONEY NOT TO THE COMPANY!!

03-07-2010, 03:44 AM	#76 (permalink)
Sumit_Singh Owner of Hyber-Nator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kolkata Posts: 87	First of all, is it yamaha vs Bajaj or Yamaha vs Pulsar,,, whatever,,, you said it........ One product for all products of Yamaha............ My Vote goes to Pulsar.................... __________________ Still Playing in 13.5 bhp @ 8500 rpm

02-12-2010, 03:43 AM	#72 (permalink)
tejasmph chaostheory Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: pune Posts: 163	yammy all the way but yamaha vs pulsar!!! yammy has a lot of weight as pulsar is only a single bike not like pulsar vs r15.....

03-08-2010, 09:22 PM	#77 (permalink)
tigersyndicate Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 78	vote for pulsar... hehehe __________________ The Life of Rial Hamzah Tigersyndicate Black Pulsar 200 Prides # 250 The others 015

03-08-2010, 11:25 PM	#78 (permalink)
avilash Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 7	Pulsar all the way..! 2006 LML BEAMER sold 2007 pulsar 150ug3 sold 2010 pulsar 220 f,,,,,, Playing now

03-08-2010, 11:54 PM	#79 (permalink)
kaynmantis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,037	Am not a person that goes after brand. I go after good machines. Doesn't matter who built it. Whoever built a good one get my nod of approval. Manufacturers responds to competition. Its won't be outrageous to assume that we would still be driving Ambassadors and Mahindra Jeeps if Maruti Suzuki did not enter the scenario. At the same time it won't be outrageous to assume that we may still be driving maruti 800 had others not enter the Indian car industry. In all likelyhood Maruti may be happily churning out 800's year after year with perhaps a slight upgrade in a decade like mirrors and stuffs like that. Its the nature of the market. Who should takes the honour of changing the scene is a very debatable question. As I see it, all these changes are reaction to one another like the story of "chick or the egg". What if CBZ never came into existance? Maybe we'll all be riding RX100 today albeit a four stroke RX 100. Maybe not. Maybe Bajaj would come up with something that is closer to RX. Mayne not. So do we attribute the honour to CBZ and Hero Honda? or perhaps Narasima Rao for liberating Indian market? Its hard to say how history would have been written. Why do I need to bother myself with such matters. Just focus on what there is today and see who is delivering, and by this, it has to be Yamaha. But stick around for some time, things will change quickly by todays pace of change. Thats how market works. So for now, both thumbs up to Yamaha.

03-09-2010, 12:54 AM	#80 (permalink)
krates zzooo zooo zooooooooooo Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kanpur Posts: 247	Yamaha +1 it changed the way i used to think about bikes... __________________ Riding, loving and enjoying my lord of the streets.. FZ-S... And dreaming of an R6/R1/FZ1/CBR 1000RR

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