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I don't want to talk to anyone when filling in gas; I'd better watch out for the fuel meter - Thanks to the short fuelling tricks adopted in India

On a lighter note - May be that's the reason someone started telling to avoid talking over mobiles when fuelling

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ravi@17bhp

Why not be on safe side and avoid using cell phones at fuel stations? One hardly stays 5-10 min at a fuel station.

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rahul9985

Basically this is to discuss if there are any chances of petrol igniting at a fuel station or not.
I have done a few trials. Sprayed petrol in air & answered the phone a couple of times very near to the vapors. It never ignited. Also sprayed petrol onto hot exhaust gas & hot disc of my bike. It vaporized instead of catching fire. I guess they were not at its ignition temperature when i tried. I do get calls & messages when in a fuel pump.

Maybe the frequencies at which the Indian networks work cant ignite vapor petrol. However i have never had the need to answer my phone at a fuel station.

Would love to see some solid scientific proof for this.

OF Sir should be able to help us in this debate.

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ravi@17bhp

Rahul, I appreciate your experimentation, but you need to create the conditions in a fuel station to check the accurate result.

Moreover, it is not that every time you talk on a cell phone ignites a fuel station. May be it is a one in million, but certainly it is disastrous when and if it happens. That is why, my comments are in my previous post.

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abhijeet080808

ROFL! I tried to imagine that!

I guess its more like a myth. Microwaves emit much more powerful e.m. waves compared to cell phone waves. Its somewhat like comparing a laser beam to a torch beam.

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^ I agree. And if mobiles used frequencies that would loose energy to things like petrol fumes or water vapour then modern mobile technology would not exist. The signal would dissipate before travelling even a few tens of meters, giving out energy to heat petrol fumes and water vapour and vehicle exhaust!

Infact, did you know that in airports, aircraft request fuel from refueling trucks carrying Turbine fuel and Petrol using radios.

jd666

^^ and have u seen that the fueling personnel carry a walkie strapped to their waist???

The issue is from aircraft hardware like weather radar ( during a ground test , even human beings are kept at a distance ).

Moreover aviation fuel ( kerosene ), has a much higher ignition temperature than petrol. ( iirc ).

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^ Radars have a much higher power output. In fact certain aircraft have radars powerful enough to kill small animals nearby. But here we are talking about communication equipment.

And yes, turbine engines use kerosine. But most piston engine aircraft use petrol.

jd666

^^ exactly.. though at an international airport, mostly all that you see are turbine engined... piston aircrafts are mostly at flying clubs or with private operators.. a very limited number at airports in comparo to the turbine engined aircrafts.

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Lets not go off topic here. All i wanted to say was, even in the high safety domain of aviation, radio communication equipment is used in close proximity to fuels, both kerosene and petrol.

This is true here in India, but in countries where the aviation sector is more developed all airports are teeming with piston engined aircraft. And what i wanted to convey is that radio communication transmitters more powerful than mobile phone transmitters are used close to the fuels. Lets stop with avition and go back to the petrol station with a mobile phone.