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Sarvajit · 08-31-2010, 11:29 AM

I have learnt this the hard way. Braking is the worst thing you can do in this situation. I've braked hard into potholes&bent my front forks on my Fiero.
As for the speedbreakers/bumps in the road, get your butt a couple of inches above the seat, by standing up a bit on the footpegs so as to avoid most of your weight falling on the bike when it touches the ground again.
Like the others said, hold onto the clips/handlebar, do not turn, keep your body, line of vision straight and it will be fine in a second or two.
I've more or less got used to it now, considering the condition of the roads we have.
But yes, doesn't mean that you do it all the time-if you can manage to slow down to a comfortable speed, do it. But in emergency, DO NOT hold the brakes!

RAK · 08-31-2010, 04:46 PM

Last week while returning from Nashik to Mumbai the initial toll road was awesome I was continuously driving around 90-100 KMPH later on I saw a sign toll road ends and immediately I was not able to control my bike……I went through a village of potholes just after the “TOLL ROAD ENDS HERE” board.
While going through the pot holes I somehow managed to balance the bike with my pillion else both of us would have surely gone for a toss at that speed. I grabbed my bike handled so tightly which I had never done before.
Immediately took my bike aside and checked for anything unexpected. Just found one thing, the ROAD full of big pot holes.

JAKRAP · 08-31-2010, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotAntivirus

Today, I had worst experience of my life, I was moving at 75-80 kmph on the highway and there were 3 bikes in front of me and a huge bump in the road and due the bikes in front of me I wasnt able to see it and i went through it.. After i crossed it I was in the air, but I somehow had a good landing and It survived

Please give us all tips as this can happen to anyone of us, how to go through such situation like mine.. and How to handle it.

Have done three bumps at very different locations at speeds of 120+..and each time has been saved due to some good fortune!!...

Most of the times the problem happens due to the rider not spotting the bump owing to vehicles in front of them or unmarked bumps.

The best way is to

Brake hard before the bump (front brake/rear brake combo, dont lock the wheels)
Release the brakes,
Freeroll, before you hop on to the bump,
Begin to stand up as you approach the bump
Hard hands for a split second on hitting the bump
Soft hands on the front wheel landing on the handle bars to allow the bike to correct itself from the tank slapper!

1) In short, if you got 20-30 meters before the bump (depends on your speed, high speeds more distance required)- Brake>Freeroll>Begin to Standup>Hard Hands(for a split second on hitting the bump)>Take Bump>Soft hands

2) If you got less than 5-10 meter or so, do the above thing without braking...There is no point in braking..Braking might end you up on the tarmac.-Freeroll>Standup>Begin to Standup>Hard Hands(for a split second on hitting the bump)>Take Bump>Soft hands

This has saved me atleast three times...But learnt it pretty hard the first time!

The main thing to note here is that when taking the bump do not over do it

....

Points to note:

1) Standing up at the right time is one of the keys. You should stand up just in time you hit the bump so that your legs act as shock absorbers and also you can hold the handle a lil hard for a split second when you hit the bump so as to keep the handle straight at the moment of impact.
If you stand up late, the back seat of the bike will hit your bums.

..
If you stand up early..the chances of you falling over the bike are high.
Bcos of the loss of momentum of the bike on hitting the bump, the bike would lose speed, the rider would go front (bcos you are standing and you are catching the handle with soft hands) and sometimes your nose would touch the wind screen (happened to me the first time

).

2) Remember to brake before you begin to stand up and not the other way around. Never ever hold brakes on hitting the bump.

3) When the front wheel lands after hitting the bump, always hold with soft hands, so that the bike can correct itslef from any tank slappers which are very likely to happen.

4) It is much more difficult to do this on bikes with clip on handle bars and aggressive riding positions than the normal bikes..

Hope this helps you..You can try practising this on bumps at slower speeds..so that you get the sequence right and its ingrained in your mind for your body to respond when taking the bump at high speeds accidentally.

Parth · 08-31-2010, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAKRAP

Have done three bumps at very different locations at speeds of 120+..and each time has been saved due to some good fortune!!...

Most of the times the problem happens due to the rider not spotting the bump owing to vehicles in front of them or unmarked bumps.

The best way is to

Brake hard before the bump (front brake/rear brake combo, dont lock the wheels)
Release the brakes,
Freeroll, before you hop on to the bump,
Begin to stand up as you approach the bump
Hard hands for a split second on hitting the bump
Soft hands on the front wheel landing on the handle bars to allow the bike to correct itself from the tank slapper!

1) In short, if you got 20-30 meters before the bump (depends on your speed, high speeds more distance required)- Brake>Freeroll>Begin to Standup>Hard Hands(for a split second on hitting the bump)>Take Bump>Soft hands

2) If you got less than 5-10 meter or so, do the above thing without braking...There is no point in braking..Braking might end you up on the tarmac.-Freeroll>Standup>Begin to Standup>Hard Hands(for a split second on hitting the bump)>Take Bump>Soft hands

This has saved me atleast three times...But learnt it pretty hard the first time!

The main thing to note here is that when taking the bump do not over do it

....

Points to note:

1) Standing up at the right time is one of the keys. You should stand up just in time you hit the bump so that your legs act as shock absorbers and also you can hold the handle a lil hard for a split second when you hit the bump so as to keep the handle straight at the moment of impact.
If you stand up late, the back seat of the bike will hit your bums.

..
If you stand up early..the chances of you falling over the bike are high.
Bcos of the loss of momentum of the bike on hitting the bump, the bike would lose speed, the rider would go front (bcos you are standing and you are catching the handle with soft hands) and sometimes your nose would touch the wind screen (happened to me the first time

).

2) Remember to brake before you begin to stand up and not the other way around. Never ever hold brakes on hitting the bump.

3) When the front wheel lands after hitting the bump, always hold with soft hands, so that the bike can correct itslef from any tank slappers which are very likely to happen.

4) It is much more difficult to do this on bikes with clip on handle bars and aggressive riding positions than the normal bikes..

Hope this helps you..You can try practising this on bumps at slower speeds..so that you get the sequence right and its ingrained in your mind for your body to respond when taking the bump at high speeds accidentally.

Oh man, experience a tank slapper on an Indian make bike, and you're definitely gonna taste the tarmac. The only possible way to counter a big bad tank slapper is to have a steering damper installed, and since no manufacturers have one for Indian bikes, we have no option but to pray that we may never have to encounter a tank slapper.

Puneet1 · 08-31-2010, 06:38 PM

@^^^ not true ! i have experienced tank-slappers many times . key is to not panic and hold steering too tight or too loose . in most mild cases we can recover from the situation

Parth · 08-31-2010, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parth

Oh man, experience a tank slapper on an Indian make bike, and you're definitely gonna taste the tarmac. The only possible way to counter a big bad tank slapper is to have a steering damper installed, and since no manufacturers have one for Indian bikes, we have no option but to pray that we may never have to encounter a tank slapper.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puneet1

@^^^ not true ! i have experienced tank-slappers many times . key is to not panic and hold steering too tight or too loose . in most mild cases we can recover from the situation

See the contradiction buddy??

ashu_nik · 08-31-2010, 08:13 PM

Speed breaker (or bike breakers ) is the worst unavoidable nightmare of every rider here .
I advice everyone not to speed on unknown roads, anyways we dont like surprises. This is just the precaution part .

On the other hand , practice riding bike while standing on the foot pegs. U will understand the load bearing capacity of the puny little footpegs of our bikes. Better invest in all metal footpegs, they come cheaper than the factory fitted rubber sleeved ones (incase of my 220, changed it to Yamaha R15 metal footpegs... well yamaha ones are cheaper than pulsar's original and looks cool and serves the purpose better ).

Zamaan · 09-06-2010, 10:49 PM

It suddenly comes and I dont think you'll have enough time to apply a technique ! It is just the instincts that can save you !

jasmeetsinghchawla · 09-06-2010, 10:58 PM

I think you were not able to see the bump because you were not maintaining proper distance with the riders in front of you.

Problem is in India most of the riders(not you) tend to change lane by leaning when someone in front slows down or breaks or if something comes in the middle of the road but instead of doing that first thing is to brake. This causes many accidents.

JAKRAP · 09-07-2010, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parth

Oh man, experience a tank slapper on an Indian make bike, and you're definitely gonna taste the tarmac. The only possible way to counter a big bad tank slapper is to have a steering damper installed, and since no manufacturers have one for Indian bikes, we have no option but to pray that we may never have to encounter a tank slapper.

Well I have had it both on Indian bikes and Japanese bikes as well

..THe indian bike (read bullet) had no problems of taking any bump

..Though i drive it at insane speeds (100+)!!, the pot holes, the bumps, non-existent roads... it doesnt matter..But i have had some lucky ones..Touch wood!

The Japanese bike (read Ninja) does not enjoy the bumps even a wee bit...Its on the Ninja that i have to tread carefully than the Indian made one!..But it doesnot have a steering damper installed too...But am not sure even that would help you in indian terrain!!
Indian bumps is 20% skill (which is in your hand and you can develop), 30% others on the road and 50% sheer luck!!

...

08-31-2010, 11:29 AM	#11 (permalink)
Sarvajit バイカ　ボイズ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 5,065	I have learnt this the hard way. Braking is the worst thing you can do in this situation. I've braked hard into potholes&bent my front forks on my Fiero. As for the speedbreakers/bumps in the road, get your butt a couple of inches above the seat, by standing up a bit on the footpegs so as to avoid most of your weight falling on the bike when it touches the ground again. Like the others said, hold onto the clips/handlebar, do not turn, keep your body, line of vision straight and it will be fine in a second or two. I've more or less got used to it now, considering the condition of the roads we have. But yes, doesn't mean that you do it all the time-if you can manage to slow down to a comfortable speed, do it. But in emergency, DO NOT hold the brakes! __________________ Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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Puneet1 Aut viam inveniam aut faciam Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 1,710	@^^^ not true ! i have experienced tank-slappers many times . key is to not panic and hold steering too tight or too loose . in most mild cases we can recover from the situation __________________ Bi-xenon Projector Hid up for sale ! click

08-31-2010, 08:13 PM	#17 (permalink)
ashu_nik Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 46	fight it standing !! Speed breaker (or bike breakers ) is the worst unavoidable nightmare of every rider here . I advice everyone not to speed on unknown roads, anyways we dont like surprises. This is just the precaution part . On the other hand , practice riding bike while standing on the foot pegs. U will understand the load bearing capacity of the puny little footpegs of our bikes. Better invest in all metal footpegs, they come cheaper than the factory fitted rubber sleeved ones (incase of my 220, changed it to Yamaha R15 metal footpegs... well yamaha ones are cheaper than pulsar's original and looks cool and serves the purpose better ).

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Zamaan My byson :-* Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 91	It suddenly comes and I dont think you'll have enough time to apply a technique ! It is just the instincts that can save you ! __________________ Presently own : RE Classic 500 Yamaha RD 350 Yamaha FZ-s Vespa 150 RE Ensign AJS 350 Honda Activa x2 Kinetic Honda Hercules Roadeo a200

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08-31-2010, 04:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
RAK Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 432	Last week while returning from Nashik to Mumbai the initial toll road was awesome I was continuously driving around 90-100 KMPH later on I saw a sign toll road ends and immediately I was not able to control my bike……I went through a village of potholes just after the “TOLL ROAD ENDS HERE” board. While going through the pot holes I somehow managed to balance the bike with my pillion else both of us would have surely gone for a toss at that speed. I grabbed my bike handled so tightly which I had never done before. Immediately took my bike aside and checked for anything unexpected. Just found one thing, the ROAD full of big pot holes.

09-06-2010, 10:58 PM	#19 (permalink)
jasmeetsinghchawla Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Raipur (C.G.) Posts: 590	I think you were not able to see the bump because you were not maintaining proper distance with the riders in front of you. Problem is in India most of the riders(not you) tend to change lane by leaning when someone in front slows down or breaks or if something comes in the middle of the road but instead of doing that first thing is to brake. This causes many accidents.

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