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Old 11-29-2010, 10:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb Dream of India's World Class Riding/Driving School!

I know the title isn't catchy but a passionate initiative will always attract the attention it deserves.

Right, what is this all about? Simply put:

"A driving school with international & national certification that will virtually change the way we drive/ride. Thus making our roads a safer place to be."

I need all the information, advice, suggestions and criticisms that I can get.

What I'm looking at is a Herculean task of changing the entire system. This cannot be achieved by one person alone.

The entire Automotive fraternity and forums like xBhp, Team-Bhp and Motoroids will definitely play a very major role in this for obvious reasons.

Having said that this is the first time I have taken this idea to a forum.

Needless to say, anyone & anything of value is welcome.

I have lost a few close friends and countless other biking brethren for faults of others. I don't wanna lose anymore priceless lives to premature deaths!

Aren't you all tired of saying "our road sense sucks"?
It's time to take the onus on ourselves and do something concrete about it!



EDIT: Owing to the impracticality of this idea I have worked out another initiative here:
The 'Anti-Idiots' Campaign


Maybe the mods may wanna merge the two. But this is an even better idea that I have. Let's get together and work this new one out!!
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Old 12-11-2010, 05:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 12-11-2010, 05:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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@46wannabe - Nice thought, I too had this thought, but mostly within me, never even attempted to talk with others.

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What I'm looking at is a Herculean task of changing the entire system. This cannot be achieved by one person alone.
^^^ is the only thought that leaves me trembling

The point here is, most people here want to ride/drive from point A to B & they've time for everything else except improving their riding/driving skills. This thought needs to change within the entire system.

Last week, I was travelling in office cab after 10:00 PM; the driver was damn safe except that he didn't know what's lane discipline, when should he watch mirrors. Cutting long story short, that guy says, if he followed lane discipline, people would make fun of him; and he watched mirrors after he make a steep cut to avoid a pothole

Several times, I've witnessed traffic cops letting people go off simply (forget the undertable business for now) when public stop after the stop line. IMO, half these traffic issues will be resolved IF the traffic cops are 50% honest & enforce law (forget even the fine for now) at the bottom most level.

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The entire Automotive fraternity and forums like xBhp, Team-Bhp and Motoroids will definitely play a very major role in this for obvious reasons
Add to that GearHeads

Ps - Pls do not feel that I'm discouraging your thoughts, I was just ranting here, as we keep thoughts flowing, we'll discuss about my thoughts on the school.
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Old 12-12-2010, 08:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I m there with you for this novel cause anytime !!! I believe xbhp now can help this in a great way as it has evolved out of the box from its online avtar to offline world.

I totally agree with argee on this statement
"The point here is, most people here want to ride/drive from point A to B & they've time for everything else except improving their riding/driving skills. This thought needs to change within the entire system." ....
something should be done in this regard in association with the traffic personals....This is the big job ahead rather than educating others... hope the new younger generation in these departments brings about a change in this scenario.
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For this, a complete new institution is required with dedicated staff. xbhp or any online/offline biking fraternity can't pull this off alone. Required people in the business should be there 24x7 with only one aim of providing training and support to riders and this would rather be a social entrepreneurship than a NPO for the individual or organization who would like to introduce this concept in the country. Something like CSS but on a very basic level training for motorcyclist covering smallest issues possible including putting your bike on main stand or picking it from the ground to more serious issues like filtering in express-way between lanes and group riding.

No one can do it on a free lunch basis because things and commitment like these fade away easily with what you get in return of your input. so anyone who has the resources and a plan can bring this and start as first ever school for motorbikes. We would require another Sundeep Gajjar and his 7+ dedicated years to make this happen and work.
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Old 12-13-2010, 09:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Not even 10 private institution can make this change; its the Govt's job & Govt's job alone to ENFORCE things. All we can do is scream, yell, shout at top of our voices (which is what we're doing) & all of them should go to right ears (till date its falling to deaf ears) & then the Govt is the one to wake up & then ENFORCE on law.

Take any country for instance, the entire infrastructure is owned by Govt & the laws are applicable as per state or country. Unless the law is enforced, no one follows. Here the issue is everything is available in mixed masala such as corruption + bribery + lack of enforcement + carelessness + red tapism. So even if there's an enforcement, there's bribery to get over.

The change has to begin from top for a sudden change OR the ENFORCEMENT has to begin with simple things (and consistently too) right from...
1. Riding in wrong directions
2. Lane discipline
3. Stopping before stop line
4. Jumping signals

It should start with ENFORCING common man & then gradually taken up to higher levels in society. IMO, if the law is implemented very strictly to common man, more than 50% of the issues will be resolved.
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:13 AM   #7 (permalink)
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It all depends on mamus doing their job in a right way! in usa they give tickets for jaywalking! it cant be done in a country like ours which is filled with population but, stopping ahead of the stop sign on the road is one thing which is a nuisance for everyone including him! people never realize that.. all these idiots need is to get ahead of everyone no matter what!

the only way to teach people is the hard way.. install boom barriers everywhere :P

but changing these idiots mind will take generations! :sigh:
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Old 04-28-2012, 08:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Default Stay tuned!!

Having waited around and thought more on this topic I have recently submitted a new idea in a thread for approval. Which according to me is the first step towards the above. In fact if all goes well, the above may not even be required.

I'm excited and hope that the idea finally picks up steam.
Fingers crossed!

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but changing these idiots mind will take generations! :sigh:
Precisely why I wanna start now buddy!


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Not even 10 private institution can make this change; its the Govt's job & Govt's job alone to ENFORCE things. All we can do is scream, yell, shout at top of our voices (which is what we're doing) & all of them should go to right ears (till date its falling to deaf ears) & then the Govt is the one to wake up & then ENFORCE on law.

Take any country for instance, the entire infrastructure is owned by Govt & the laws are applicable as per state or country. Unless the law is enforced, no one follows. Here the issue is everything is available in mixed masala such as corruption + bribery + lack of enforcement + carelessness + red tapism. So even if there's an enforcement, there's bribery to get over.

The change has to begin from top for a sudden change OR the ENFORCEMENT has to begin with simple things (and consistently too) right from...
1. Riding in wrong directions
2. Lane discipline
3. Stopping before stop line
4. Jumping signals

It should start with ENFORCING common man & then gradually taken up to higher levels in society. IMO, if the law is implemented very strictly to common man, more than 50% of the issues will be resolved.
Very well thought out brother. My new idea will need your help too.


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For this, a complete new institution is required with dedicated staff. xbhp or any online/offline biking fraternity can't pull this off alone. Required people in the business should be there 24x7 with only one aim of providing training and support to riders and this would rather be a social entrepreneurship than a NPO for the individual or organization who would like to introduce this concept in the country. Something like CSS but on a very basic level training for motorcyclist covering smallest issues possible including putting your bike on main stand or picking it from the ground to more serious issues like filtering in express-way between lanes and group riding.

No one can do it on a free lunch basis because things and commitment like these fade away easily with what you get in return of your input. so anyone who has the resources and a plan can bring this and start as first ever school for motorbikes. We would require another Sundeep Gajjar and his 7+ dedicated years to make this happen and work.

Have heeded your inputs and would certainly appreciate help from you and the others on my forthcoming idea.

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I m there with you for this novel cause anytime !!! I believe xbhp now can help this in a great way as it has evolved out of the box from its online avtar to offline world.
Exactly what I have in mind!


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@46wannabe - Nice thought, I too had this thought, but mostly within me, never even attempted to talk with others.

Ps - Pls do not feel that I'm discouraging your thoughts, I was just ranting here, as we keep thoughts flowing, we'll discuss about my thoughts on the school.
Never felt you were.

Rest assured I never gave up on this thread. Was merely a bit shocked with life's commitments and was in a bad phase myself. This time I have new found belief that things can and will change.

@MODS: If you could be kind enough to merge the two. God bless!
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5)Always wear safety gear.
6)Alcohol is a strict NO!
7)Thou may lust after thy neighbour's bike specially if its of the R1 kind!
8)Thou shalt ride with 'ultra-most' care and caution when on Indian roads.
9)Thou shalt never leave the engine running at long traffic halts.
10)Thou shalt follow all of the above.

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Not only does India need more riding schools, it also needs more tracks... The only two motorcycling tracks we have right now are the ones in Chennai and Cochin... The Buddh track is an F1 track and isn't even really open to the public, unless you count the "6 days" they claimed they will give public access... Companies like bajaj who have a track available, should take the initiative for the same. Something like Maruti has done for its customers...
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Tracks is secondary. Agreed that enthusiasts would get a respite with more accessible circuits, but the larger driving populace first need a solution to daily issues.

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