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Old 12-28-2010, 03:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
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what i saw in GP was the rider moves his total body towards the leaning side including his buttocks , at this moment the thigh of other leg is over the bike seat.
This is why forums are so dangerous. Some good information going around. but for every good piece there is plenty of bullshit like this. If you look carefully, they have half an arse cheek off the side of the seat. Only half. let alone the complete arse with thigh on the seat. That is complete and utter crap. Try doing that and the first mild bump will throw you off and you will no doubt crash!!!!

not to mention anything more than half an arse cheek and your entire upper body is unstable and you are hanging on too much with the bars.

another problem with trying to copy moto gp on anything less than a proper super sports bike with sticky tyres is that the bikes arent made to do it.

so in short. stop trying to be hero and leave the knee dragging to the track.

best advice of all thoguh is go do superbike school if you can. if you cant then start with counter steering. learn that properly and implement it. anything more and it will be like feeding a 3 month old baby a chewy piece of steak.

once you get counter steering right then ask for more advice

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Old 01-01-2011, 04:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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This is why forums are so dangerous. Some good information going around. but for every good piece there is plenty of bullshit like this. If you look carefully, they have half an arse cheek off the side of the seat. Only half. let alone the complete arse with thigh on the seat. That is complete and utter crap. Try doing that and the first mild bump will throw you off and you will no doubt crash!!!!

not to mention anything more than half an arse cheek and your entire upper body is unstable and you are hanging on too much with the bars.

another problem with trying to copy moto gp on anything less than a proper super sports bike with sticky tyres is that the bikes arent made to do it.

so in short. stop trying to be hero and leave the knee dragging to the track.

best advice of all thoguh is go do superbike school if you can. if you cant then start with counter steering. learn that properly and implement it. anything more and it will be like feeding a 3 month old baby a chewy piece of steak.

once you get counter steering right then ask for more advice

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Old 01-02-2011, 11:11 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Just note that you don't need to drag your knee at every corner.
Anyway with my have the butt out and knee open,at serious corners i am able to scrape my knees.

PS: Id suggest dont try scraping your knees too early!slowly bit by bit practice it!
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Old 01-03-2011, 09:48 PM   #14 (permalink)
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dude, thank you for your inputs, you see there is more light on the issue now, it was to invite discussions. it wasn't a theory or statement neither it was bullshit.

and regarding watching carefully, we are on same note, its just that i was brief and you are detailed.

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This is why forums are so dangerous. Some good information going around. but for every good piece there is plenty of bullshit like this. If you look carefully, they have half an arse cheek off the side of the seat. Only half. let alone the complete arse with thigh on the seat. That is complete and utter crap. Try doing that and the first mild bump will throw you off and you will no doubt crash!!!!

not to mention anything more than half an arse cheek and your entire upper body is unstable and you are hanging on too much with the bars.

another problem with trying to copy moto gp on anything less than a proper super sports bike with sticky tyres is that the bikes arent made to do it.

so in short. stop trying to be hero and leave the knee dragging to the track.

best advice of all thoguh is go do superbike school if you can. if you cant then start with counter steering. learn that properly and implement it. anything more and it will be like feeding a 3 month old baby a chewy piece of steak.

once you get counter steering right then ask for more advice

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Old 01-04-2011, 08:25 AM   #15 (permalink)
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This is why forums are so dangerous. Some good information going around. but for every good piece there is plenty of bullshit like this. If you look carefully, they have half an arse cheek off the side of the seat. Only half. let alone the complete arse with thigh on the seat. That is complete and utter crap. Try doing that and the first mild bump will throw you off and you will no doubt crash!!!!

not to mention anything more than half an arse cheek and your entire upper body is unstable and you are hanging on too much with the bars.

another problem with trying to copy moto gp on anything less than a proper super sports bike with sticky tyres is that the bikes arent made to do it.

so in short. stop trying to be hero and leave the knee dragging to the track.

best advice of all thoguh is go do superbike school if you can. if you cant then start with counter steering. learn that properly and implement it. anything more and it will be like feeding a 3 month old baby a chewy piece of steak.

once you get counter steering right then ask for more advice

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csgup, quick question, do you ride or do you commute?

knee dragging actually is not required, but getting off your bike and leaning it on turns is a much better and 'SAFER' way to turn than turning with your handles.

'chicken strips' generally are a good indication of how much you lean your bike, and at least with super bikes, a status symbol! it doesn't matter what year or how modded a bike is, if the rider doesnt know how its supposed to be ridden. I actually spend all last summer taking the bike out on empty parking lots and twisties just to learn to lean and work on my strips. Its no fun riding if you cant lean, you don't have to do it in traffic or on roads with bumps, but once you get it, you can take your riding to a whole different level. Its the basic difference between cruising and sports riding.

I wouldnt know how it would work on your bike, but dont be a chicken, work your strips and ride your bike like any sports rider would.

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Howz this guy on a knee down?

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Killer_instinct,

Thanks for the info! That is great to know.

csgup1,

It's nothing about being a hero: I'm riding early in the morning when presumably no one is watching me; it's about really wanting to be able to do it. however, I realize it is immature without the right equipment and the proper roads. I've completely put an end to it.

RanjithMN,

Sure, i agree with you. The idea is indeed to accommodate the speed around the curve. So if you're not going fast enough, you'll low side like a stone. As for practicing, i'm going to leave it for the track. Just 2 days ago, I low sided after the foot-peg scraped the ground too long. Incorrect posture as well as (and mostly) wrong entry speed. Resulting damage: Fork bend, clutch lever and disc brake lever broke, front wheel took damage, foot-peg got ripped off and there are minute cracks on display and petrol tank. And I've got to sit and heal for the next three weeks atleast lol.

Whizzkid_ram,

Awesome video! It really made me feel great and sad at the same time!

nin,

That's pretty nice, though it's more possible that I do not know what the right posture is! Your signature is nice, btw. That's very close to the truth we need.
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