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Old 03-05-2011, 12:09 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Hey man! I think o2 would be something too much to try with our smaller capacity bikes.. With more combustion.. the engine also would revv higher..

What i was trying a few days ago with my yamaha is, making a turbo like stuff.. i fitted a small CPU fan in a circular box with filter element passing the air in.. and that was connected to the carb.. Generally.. our engines suck air.. my idea was to inject air.. adjust the mixture ratio and see the difference.. but sadly.. my yamaha doesn't have a battery currently.. so trying to get it on.. actually no place left to fit any.. so working on it.. u can try that to if you have all the resourses available.. by the time i get my battery working to test it..
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:43 PM   #22 (permalink)
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hmn....E...C...U !!

i think there is no roll of it in here....

see...lean mixture happens when more air is passed ...it happens when u put free flow filter in r15...if u try to introduce free flow of o2 into r15....and ride....take an insurance before riding ....bike will be history...insurance is for you!!

no much of a flow is there ma friend!!
(guys.....fell free to criticize even if you are not sure...who knows??.... u may point out new ideas accidently, believe me..)
Ha ha ha..R15 won't get killed so easily.....It is only when the Air Fuel mix is at ideal 14.7:1 that maximum heat is produced in a ICE...Adding more oxy will definitely increase combustion chamber temperature to a certain extent only, since you need adequate fuel droplets also to burn.It is the increase in the volume of exploding gas oxy mix which will blow the gaskets,seals and make a Banana of the connecting rod.....One other incident to happen will be pre-ignition..since Oxy also ignites with spark,and early intake will lead to dieseling...(Hope this throws more spanners in to the gears..).....
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Old 03-05-2011, 05:31 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Hey man! I think o2 would be something too much to try with our smaller capacity bikes.. With more combustion.. the engine also would revv higher..

What i was trying a few days ago with my yamaha is, making a turbo like stuff.. i fitted a small CPU fan in a circular box with filter element passing the air in.. and that was connected to the carb.. Generally.. our engines suck air.. my idea was to inject air.. adjust the mixture ratio and see the difference.. but sadly.. my yamaha doesn't have a battery currently.. so trying to get it on.. actually no place left to fit any.. so working on it.. u can try that to if you have all the resourses available.. by the time i get my battery working to test it..
i have allready tried that one in my rtr 180 that was my "ALTERNATE TO K&N FILTER" fitted a small smsps fan at the air filter inlet with a switch near handle......it worked like supercharging...there was small noticeable increase in performance ..everythg costed less than 50 rs ..but the thing was rotating at same speed when idiling, acceleration, high speed...idiling became lean...i tried to put up a circuit to increase speed of fan with engine speed...mean time got another idea, so went into that
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Ha ha ha..R15 won't get killed so easily.....It is only when the Air Fuel mix is at ideal 14.7:1 that maximum heat is produced in a ICE...Adding more oxy will definitely increase combustion chamber temperature to a certain extent only, since you need adequate fuel droplets also to burn.It is the increase in the volume of exploding gas oxy mix which will blow the gaskets,seals and make a Banana of the connecting rod.....One other incident to happen will be pre-ignition..since Oxy also ignites with spark,and early intake will lead to dieseling...(Hope this throws more spanners in to the gears..).....
well i think, its not that difficult o blow up an engine...if u introduce 100% o2 at the idiling time ..then also u can blow up the engine. .....if anybody got doubt pass o2 to a burning match stick , it will become a flamethrower for a sec...wihtin a short span of time all the combustibles will ignite at once, that's the blowoff point..

so i think its always safe if we increase the o2 ratio from 21% of air to 50-60% !! rgt guys? lets find out!!
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@ metal manic

heres some pics for u!!

alternate for k&n

hope this will help u for ur mods!!
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heres some pics for u!!

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hope this will help u for ur mods!!
Did you remove the air filter ? because the little compression of air you get with the SMPS fan will get damped by the filter element...try without the filter..I think the bike will have some improvement at lower rpms
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there is no gain without pain (risk).....

generally the power boost for engines are used at high rev, and high speed, to reach that extra 20-30 kmph speed beyond ordinary top speed.

another simple fanda is
Additional O2 fastens the combustion, but doesn't give additional power.
rich fuel with extra O2 can delivery additional power.

there are dozens of experiments done around the world like this , Google you idea and see the results, before you take any venture.
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Did you remove the air filter ? because the little compression of air you get with the SMPS fan will get damped by the filter element...try without the filter..I think the bike will have some improvement at lower rpms
It will surely increase the power output at the cost of engine life due to the flow of dirty air. Another idea could be that the fan should be fitted after the air filter & not before it.
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It will surely increase the power output at the cost of engine life due to the flow of dirty air. Another idea could be that the fan should be fitted after the air filter & not before it.
Yes , but the SMPS fan is a whimpy one and cannot provide sufficient pressure for any noticeable improvement..which is why I had suggested without filter to KNOW the difference...otherwise I am against even any cotton free flow filter.Paper filters are air filters of choice for engine longevity.
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