HarishK

When I was a kid on a bi-cycle, I used to think its impossible to compete with cars and only a car can chase a car.

Ever since I landed on Two wheels with a Motor to propel, I used feel majestic in front of those Cars. Since I first started with a gear-less TVS Champ, I used to compete with all those car within my Street. and get proud of myself.

Later, when I stepped out of my Street to the main roads I found those cars to go out of control when me sitting in those puny little bikes.

But after hitting the Highway and started touring with my R15, This question starts to tick in me every often when I find a Car crossing over me at the highway.

In the Current Indian Scenario,

How are Bikes compared to Cars, when it comes to Performance?

Can a bike compete with a car at the highway on long commuting?

How about Acceleration, Cars too claim a good 0-100 Sprint?

Also I heard the new Alto does 0-100Kph in just 10.XX Secs, so will outperform the Performance bikes like the Pulsar, RTR, R15, ZMA etc???

Likewise many Hatchback manufactures claim their product does a 0-100 Sprint in timings similar or less to the ones claim by the performance bike manufacturers.

Note, My question is restricted upto the 250CC bikes and not the SBKs sold in India.

Also lets not compare those 30+ Lakhs German cars and restrict upto the mass sold car segment, which is till the Honda City.

PS: This is just a question which ticks my mind every moment and not to compete a War against Cars, as any impact is higher for two Wheels than Four Wheels.

Safe Riding!!!!

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kaynmantis

Surefire topic for some pop-corn stuffs.

Considering normal cars and bikes sold in India excluding super bikes/cars.

One must keep something in mind.

1. Street racing is no no.
2. Most of the time when you think you are racing against someone, the other party may not be racing you.
3. On street, its almost impossible for cars to catch a two wheeler, be it bike or scooter by virtue of being smaller. For that matter even three wheelers will be difficult.
4. On the highway, most cars will smoke two wheelers considering most cars will do 150+, while most bikes are below 120. One may say the Ninja 250 can hit 150+, but then some cars like skoda can go 200+
5. In acceleration, bikes generally has the advantage due to power-to-weight ratio, however a vast majority of the bikes are less than 150 cc, so most cars will beat bikes again. I own a Ford Ikon 1.6 and ZmaR. My car will smoke my bike any day except on the street.

In India, cars technology has rapidly advanced. Its only recently that better technology is slowly making its presence in the two wheeler market.

drlohith

this was in my mind always and harishk has put it forward for discussion...
We can think of out doing cars(only those cheap hatchbacks) only with our so called performance bikes(150 to 220) also you might never know whether car guy is racing too...
It reminds me a ride to mysore when i overtook all the cars on my way like i was king of that road(with a big grin in my helmet) doing 130s and suddenly a civic passed by me in blink of my eye as if i was stand still... Its hard for bikers to keep up with cars if driver in car is capable of and decides so...

But bike has "MORE ADRENALINE PER KMPH" than a car and thats why i ride one... Fast ofcourse:-)

aargee

This is totally an abstract question; cars & motorcycles have their own performance, what is the objective of this question?

Dumber in VTec = smart biker in P150 & Smart driver in 800 = dumber in N250!!!

What about acceleration? Couldn't get the objective of this question either; again abstract.

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How are Bikes compared to Cars, when it comes to Performance?
Bikes perform better. But again by performance if you say acceleration: its bikes; if its top speed: then its cars

Can a bike compete with a car at the highway on long commuting?
No, cars are just better on the highway. If its an empty stretch then a car will most likely outdo a bike. Although the biker will already be gleefully satisfied at the initial defeat of the car till 100kmph


How about Acceleration, Cars too claim a good 0-100 Sprint?
Bikes are in most cases better. I would have generalised it but I would like to avoid being flamed.


All of my experience comes from riding my Hero Karizma ZMR and driving the Honda City. I feel both of them make a good testing bed for reference. I don't have other choices either.

In the end however I would like to add that despite their differences and similarities, a bike is always more fun to be with than a car. Purely my opinion.

blackside

This is not a question about feasibility or probability. This is simply put forward as a question of capability and the mechanics behind it. Period.

Given a stretch of road and putting a car and a bike to test, cars always win at the end of the finish line. That about answers the question.

Production cars vs production bikes, performance cars vs performance bikes, race tuned cars vs race tuned bikes. Cars win hands down on a stretch and bikes win on a short run. That is it!

Yes within city, bikes beat cars, yes with initial acceleration bikes beat similar cars etc., If its about ego massage, you could get plenty of opportunities to say you are better than the car. But if you put both to a brutal test, machine to machine, not putting the drivers and environment in the equation cars do out perform a bikes.

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Top Speeds:

Even the slowest car, Maruti 800 does a 140 kmph top, so we can safely forget beating most of the cars at cruisability and top speeds.
Unless its a 250cc we ride.

0-60 kmph:
As for 0-60, its an area where bikes rule!
A P180 ug3 will do it in 4.8, Karizma in 4.7. RTR 180 in 4.5~. P220 in some 3.9~. Most 150cc bikes in 5.5 seconds.
Most good cars can't do it within 6 seconds. And some don't even have tachometer for correct shifting.

0-100:
The new Alto has 5 speed gearbox with 1000cc engine, and will do 0-100 in 13.3 seconds. The older did in 20 secs.
So, in 0-100 both have a decent chance... Bike or car, anyone could win. Depends.

Overall (Just one incident):
I remember when I was going to Jaipur on highway, a Tata Nano owner was pushing his car like anything, and he overtook me without horn!
I felt offended and with a pillion too, I then "comfortably" showed the Nano owner what my Pulsar 180 is made of! I overtook him properly with horn, and then never saw him again, despite his apparent best efforts!

So, as of now, Nano can't compete even with most 150cc bikes, whether top end or acceleration. Just reach 100 kmph, stay there, and Nano is done for!

Brat

The question is very subjective... unless you are comparing Cars or bikes with relative power-to-weight ratio..

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aargee

Yes, this is the key to comparison; But again, I'm not sure what is to be discussed.

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