GT Oil Thread

[psr]

Originally Posted by princesirohi

however, i also found out that new wonder material in oil additives called boron CLS bond or boric acid is actually a better additive that gives results. there is a seperate thread on boron treatment in xbhp.

Boric acid + engine oils, does it work out??

should i try it.?

Yes adding Boric Acid in engine had helped me a great deal..I had done it in both my car and bike....But a Word of CAUTION...what works for me need not work for you. As with any experiment there are risks to be taken,with understanding.
The use of Boric Acid in high pressure oil application by NASA ,and the Technical explanation by Argonne Labs of USA are all convincing..
If you want to use it in your engine, then be prepared to take a risk of engine failure and rebuild,as a worst case scenario..

Originally Posted by prajnyan

Hey, i read somewhere that boric acid in oil will degrade the wetclutch.Please let me know of its benefits. For now I have decided to instead change my regular mineral oil at 1500-2000km interval instead of 3000km which company suggests for Yamalube.

I bought a pre-owned 2007 ZMA with 21k+ Kms on Odo with clutch slip.On acceleration the RPM meter will move quickly and speed will catch up later...ie., accelerate from 4k RPM to 6 K and speed will slowly rise from 55 Kmph to 80 ..after the Boric Acid treatment and riding for about 300 Kms I was surprised to see 3750 RPM for 60 kms and 5,100 RPM(approx) for 80 kmph.the clutch slip had disappeared and after 3,000 kms still in good condition...
Since I was prepared to change the clutch plates anyhow and had nothing to loose by going for the Boric Acid treatment I did it, and was surprised to get good result..
BUT a word of caution...
what works for me need not work for you.
If you have nothing to loose like it happened to me and want to experiment to learn, then go ahead and do it.

[abhijitkn]

Hi psr ji,

What I read over www that Boric Acid additive can damage the clutch in motorcycles since it is a wet clutch. Some of them also shown the photographs of the sludge covered damaged clutch plates. My brother uses it often in his Ford Fiesta & he too experienced improvement in performance but not substantial increase in mileage.
Is there any formula / method to add boric acid in a particular proportion?
Can it be added in the petrol? if yes then how much qty / lit?
Also every time you have mentioned that "What worked for me need not work for you" any particular reason or did someone damaged the engine by using boric acid?

For others who are looking out for first hand information here is the Xbhp thread on this subject.

[psr]

Originally Posted by abhijitkn

Hi psr ji,

What I read over www that Boric Acid additive can damage the clutch in motorcycles since it is a wet clutch. Some of them also shown the photographs of the sludge covered damaged clutch plates. My brother uses it often in his Ford Fiesta & he too experienced improvement in performance but not substantial increase in mileage.
Is there any formula / method to add boric acid in a particular proportion?
Can it be added in the petrol? if yes then how much qty / lit?
Also every time you have mentioned that "What worked for me need not work for you" any particular reason or did someone damaged the engine by using boric acid?

For others who are looking out for first hand information here is the Xbhp thread on this subject.

My experiments had been on my engines first and later on other's..I am yet to get a negative report of engine problem or clutch problem due to the use of Boric Acid.
That said it is no guarantee that it will not happen,since there are many variables like purity,molecular size,pre-mix condition of engine, etc.,
So in the best interest of the user I always warn users not to go in for the experiments unless they are prepared to face the worst results,like I was.
I cannot take risk on any user's engine,at their expense, and expect them to suffer.
So my warnings are in good faith .
I normally use 20mg for every liter of engine oil,dissolved in 2T(it mixes well in light oil) and added to NEW ENGINE OIL.

[HarishK]

Originally Posted by psr

My experiments had been on my engines first and later on other's..I am yet to get a negative report of engine problem or clutch problem due to the use of Boric Acid.
That said it is no guarantee that it will not happen,since there are many variables like purity,molecular size,pre-mix condition of engine, etc.,
So in the best interest of the user I always warn users not to go in for the experiments unless they are prepared to face the worst results,like I was.
I cannot take risk on any user's engine,at their expense, and expect them to suffer.
So my warnings are in good faith .
I normally use 20mg for every liter of engine oil,dissolved in 2T(it mixes well in light oil) and added to NEW ENGINE OIL.

Just read the text in Bold letters yourself, Whats the point of posting this?

One of my friend ruined his engine with this Boric Acid experiment. Hope he is in XBHP as well.

Post something useful, don't waste Time. let it be yours or others.

[princesirohi]

how long it is required to stir boric acid in 4t oil to mix completely. somebody mentioned to pre heat it. how much can you specify?

[Honda_CBF]

Originally Posted by princesirohi

how long it is required to stir boric acid in 4t oil to mix completely. somebody mentioned to pre heat it. how much can you specify?

you can use any room heater to warm your oil. Have done that to my 140 grade gear oil & room heater made it behave like 100~120 grade i guess.
Btw, your query is related to BA not Gtoil!

[princesirohi]

Originally Posted by Honda_CBF

you can use any room heater to warm your oil. Have done that to my 140 grade gear oil & room heater made it behave like 100~120 grade i guess.
Btw, your query is related to BA not Gtoil!

he he he.. we have turned the GToil thread into a BA thread.

[HarishK]

@ paulsonaivy

Thanks for your advice Sir, As per your advice I added 100ML of GTO to 1 litre of Motul FS 300V oil and now I almost forgot what I did coz, its been months and I did 7500Kms without an oil change.

Still the oil retains the greenish tone with perfect oil level, so hopefully your claim is true, YES I THINK I CAN RUN SAME OIL OVER 10000KMS.


Also to be honest I am not bothered about the drain interval, the main aspect that I like in GTOil is the smooth engine operation. I have a little modified setup with a 180CC engine on R15 and now its on par to a brand new stock R15 interms of smoothness and revs much quicker (Easier) than ever before.


Thanks to you and do update your salesmen to keep stock with them.