GT Oil Thread

[Noor]

OTG's GTOIL(ElectroMagnetic Fluid) is the only advanced technology lubricant additive in the world that is extracted purely from specially selected plant derived organic materials and resins, through the special process, to form a super lubricant additive with unique electromagnetic properties that produce an 'AIR FILM MAGNET' which results in an almost ZERO FRICTION COEFFICIENT between operating mechanical parts,that then work far more efficiently and economical in their operation.

GTOil SuperLube is simply added to any operating mechanical system to reach all areas of resistance (that cause friction) to enhance their mechanical efficiency. The addition of this causes an engine, machine or equipment to run far more efficiently.

The World first ORGANIC (chemical free) and the worlds best engine oil additive,for all four stroke engines petrol, diesel, lpg, cng,alcohol,propane, and yes specially for hydrogen engines.

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xBhpians, has anyone tried the worlds first ORGANIC (chemical free) engine oil. Please use this thread to share your experience with GT oil.

[vishnus]

never heard about it & doesn't available at kerala....
don't know if we can relay on this new one..

[Aneesh@4GHz]

Is it reliable? No reviews out here.

[abhee]

This seemed interesting to me so looked up on web and found their website: http://www.gtoils.com. They have an Indian version of the website too.

I sent them a mail asking for the price quote and quantity of oil that will be required. Here's a reply from them.


hello abhishek
to give you a quote,first of all i need which bike you need it for and then where you from
bcos the gtoil is treatment for the oil and not a additive,
so pls give me the information
if your motor cycle is below 140 cc then for the treatment you need 15 ml and has to be added every 10000kms ,
but you dont have to change the engine oil,
if the bike is over 140 cc and upto 250 cc then you need 2 pouch of 15 ml
again this amount has to be added every 10000kms,
we dont recommend oil change bcos firstly its polluting the envoirnment, secondly when the gtoil is used it forms a coating on all metal parts where there is friction and heat,and then the excisting oil only acts like a coolant ,
the engine become more powerfull like a sports engine bcos of more compression ,since there is no leakage between the ring gaps ,bcos the gtoil seales the ring gaps, since the sealing is perfect and the gtoil forms a coating on all the moving parts, the engine bcomes frictionless,more pick up and gain in milage,
the gtoil is totally a organic oil and does not chemicals so the viscosity is maintanined even at different operating temp.
Normally in engine oil the co. adds additives so that the oil can be used for a particular range of temp.and maitnace the viscosity for that range of temp.
The gtoil pouch of 15 ml will cost you Rs 200/ + courrier
now its upto you to use it or no
rgds paul
no its upt

If the oil does what they say, then IMO this will be a revolutionary product.

Experts please throw in your views about the product claims. If anyone has come across this product, do share your experience.

[princesirohi]

so, who is the one to try..
btw, i checked there website and it seems like a very small company with only less than 3000 hits to website....

[paulsonaivy]

Originally Posted by princesirohi

so, who is the one to try..
btw, i checked there website and it seems like a very small company with only less than 3000 hits to website....

well there are many XBHPians who have already tried the gtoil and i would request them to share their experience in the forum
its a request,
rgds paul

[psr]

Oil additives are not based on CC of engines....
Multigrade Oil viscosity will change with temperature,along with their flow rate within engine..
An additive can reduce leak in compression ,and restore to stock levels,but can not increase compression.
Oil acts as coolant in engine in a lesser,and secondary to it's primary job of keeping moving parts lubed.
Even oils claiming to need a change in 10,000 Kms needs to be changed earlier due to the combustion residues and heat stress shear.

Just my thought

[abhijitkn]

Since there is a long discussion going on in R15 thread, I thought of posting it here for the benefit of others.

Originally Posted by paulsonaivy

hey buddy you talk about saving the planet, but if nothing is done personally nothing starts,
try using gtoil ,you can run pollution free and will help in global warming too, www.gtoilindia.com
rgds paul

Originally Posted by shrinathrao

+1 paul In fact i saw the mileage figures improved a bit better after using gtoil.

Originally Posted by stefanm

How about some conclusive evidence to back your claims? This would make a difference, real world and independent testing etc. How about you give some freebies to a few forum members, who are willing to give the product a test and an honest review?

Originally Posted by paulsonaivy

sure i have already done it and all have given a thumps up sign but i just dont know why no one posts it on the forum
rgds paul

Originally Posted by stefanm

Guess people like freebies and just can't be bothered in the end, how about an official test with the Xbhp mag? the boys cover a lot of ground on proper bikes.

Originally Posted by paulsonaivy

yes the xbhp guys have already tested it and happy,even Noor,Himanshu, shrinathrao from pune,akshay from bangalore ,veyron999 from nagpur etc, and resently by dilip bam from pune who is very popular with young bikers has tested it on his old bikes and new bikes also devjeet from pune, i think he will be in a better position to tell you how its like after using GTOIL www.gtoilindia.com

Originally Posted by veyron999

The bike was running just fine earlier, with minimal vibrations..was running on the Motul 5100 (ss) and was pretty happy with its performance..but i kind of always had the feeling that the bike didn't accelerate as good as it used to from stand-still even after changing the air-filter (stock) and the spark plug(NGk CR8E)..
there seemed to be a "lag" as i had complained earlier on the forum too..but there weren't as such any thing that could point to the cause of the problem, and the unavailability of the FID device at the silly and the only svc here in nagpur, i decided to ignore it.. overall, i was happy but was continuously on the look out for alternate oil brands/ grades..i was keen on trying the motul 300v fs but decided against it because of two main reasons:
1) reports that it "burns" out quite quickly as indicated by the decreasing oil level.
2) cost- 850INR + additional top-ups to maintain the level.
So motul ss it was then..the issue(?) with this oil though was that it kind of seemed to run out of life at 2000kms which was signified by slight roughness and heating (not over-heating).. that was one thing i had to live with though,
till i heard about the GT oil..
i at first checked the website, was quite convinced with their explanations about the working and effects, but was skeptical..then i asked 'neoakshay' who was already using this additive for more than 7k kms and his reply was positive..i contacted paulson, cleared a few doubts, and requested him to send the oil to me at a pretty reasonable price(considering the claimed benefits), which reached me the next day itself!!
as my oil change was due anyway and the level had fallen below my liking, i drained out the old oil and poured in a new can of motul 5100ss along with two 15mL satchets of GT oil..
i was not expecting wonders though..
i let the bike idle for a few minutes, then took her out for a spin, the initial feeling was just as i used to get when i poured in a new oil but slightly better..
then i decided to rev it higher and then boy was i blown away!!!
the difference was instantly noticeable, the engine noise wasn't harsh anymore, at even 6.5k it felt as if it was at 4k!! and
surely, the vibration levels had gone down by large, even at top of the rev range!
the main changes i found were as follows:
-the bike starts up a bit more easily/quickly than before (lesser cranking)
-it sounds much more polished/comfortable at all the rpms as compared to before.
-the acceleration, both in gear and specially stand-still (no lag now) has improved noticeably.
-surprisingly, unlike before the bike didn't complain when i was doing ~30kmph in 6th gear and didn't struggle to pick up speed.
-less heat generated (seemingly)
all in all, this is surely the best my bike ever was and i hope it stays this way..
and i recommend all owners to try it atleast once..
im not sure about how long it would last according to my riding style (not rash but fast nevertheless and occasional ripping sessions) but i was comforted when paulson told me that this oil has been tested in racing engines as well which rev higher than our bikes..
i will report back after 5k kms (w/o changing engine oil) again..
for now, i agree that this is the quickest tune-up an engine can get!
It is surely worth a try!

Originally Posted by jeyessh

why is it that you mixed only two sachets ?? cant the entire filling be done by gt oil?

Originally Posted by paulsonaivy

helo
you just need 2 sachets to treat a 150 cc bike,
using gtoil 1 liter will be a bit expensive
rgds paul

Originally Posted by jeyessh

hello sir,thanks for clarifying

Originally Posted by punarvasu

Better keep out of this kind of useless oil additives. Their claim is that the oil need not be replaced at any time but only the oil filter in every 10000 or so kms!
Paul,
Is the cc of the engine deciding the quantity of this miraculous oil additive? What material changes is this oil additive making on the engine oil to last it forever? Have you any reliable evidence like laboratory test result other than something like “Gopal in Mumbay said” or “Paul at Utopia” said?
Are you, the dealer of that oil here in India, or the manufacturing company ready to give a stamped written undertaking agreeing to compensate the losses if any caused by the usage of that oil in engine? If the answer is no, why?

Originally Posted by prajnyan

+1 ^^
All I can say is rather than putting oil + additive for around 1000rs.
You can change the semi synt+oil filter twice in same intervals. It will give your bike a better life.

Originally Posted by jeyessh

you are right my friend..

Originally Posted by abhijitkn

GT Oil looks authentic. Here is the website.

Originally Posted by veyron999

sorry for the OT guys,
but
oh god are you for real? why are so crazily out to prove that all that fellow members who have actually tested the product are fools??
i've been seeing for a long time, kept silent but there has to be a limit.
1) you have not used the product so, stay shut.
2) if you don't want to use it, keep your worthless comments and questions away from the forum.
3) and the most important one, this thread is not only for gt-oil, its an ownership experience thread, and the ones who use this oil are giving their respective experiences,
if you feel its fake or a spoof, then keep it to yourself and stop spamming the otherwise deteriorating quality of this thread.
you must learn to respect other fellow members and specially their views.
if you can't you may as well stay away from this "community".
and FYI btw, even xbhp of the year is using this additive, which speaks for itself.
no offence meant.
i would also request paulson to start a new thread meant for this purpose so as not to attract comments from the non-interested and also so as to keep this thread spam-free.
thanks.

Originally Posted by abhijitkn

^^^ +1 I didn't share the website because it exists. I do not want to stretch it too far. But looking at the products that they have introduced, it takes more than just a mode job & DIY job. You asked for test results, they have given the test results along with the name of lab on the website also with the list of the vehicles tested. Send your queries to them on the email address so that they can clear your doubts.

Originally Posted by punarvasu

As far as I know, it is an open forum; not anyone’s private property. Here someone said that a specific oil addictive is good for the bike. That is his view about that it.
In my opinion, it is a useless, spurious and worthless product and I expressed my opinion here. Who are you to ask me to stay shut and keep away from this forum and community? You are spamming this forum by using it to sell a spurious, worthless oil; not me.

Originally Posted by abhijitkn

Hi Punarvasu,
Can you let me know why are you saying that GT Oil is useless, spurious and worthless product? Have you / anyone you know used it before?
I'm planning to use it that is why I would like to know.

Originally Posted by punarvasu

That I know but Paulson is the dealer of that product in India and he has admitted it earlier. So I asked him the questions here as he was trying to sell that oil through this forum.
The only testimonial there is by a “newboy” from Baguio City, Benguet Province, Mountain Trails. Can anyone spot out this “boy” and verify the correctness of his claim? Even his Email address is not provided there. That is why I said that it is like Paul from Utopia.
Their claim is that the engine oil need not be changed for a very long time (the time or period is not mentioned) but the oil filter needs to be changed in every 10000 kms.
I am not a fool to believe it and hence I questioned it here where there was a posting about that useless – most probably CASTOR - oil and asked the other bikers to not use or test it.

Originally Posted by paulsonaivy

hello mr punarvasu
listen puna or vasu who ever you are,
i am least bothered as to what you say,
but just to let you know ,i have not said you are a fool, i dont think so,
and if you say its a useless product without testing it or just by saying there is no email address in the testimonial,then i think you you are a fool,bcos i think better then the email i have the phone numbers which you can fone and ask,
if you feel its castor oil then why dont you make it your self and use it or mint money by selling it,
rgds

Originally Posted by veyron999

@mods really sorry for the OT (again ), i shall delete the posts myself after my point has been made clear..
firstly, opinions are based on experience my friend..
i aren't asking no one to stay shut, read on..
dude,
seems as if you didn't get what i meant to say in the right sense..
no one here calls you a fool, everyone -including me respect your views..
we are not here to start a fight, and never in my prev. post did i say that this is a private property and not a "community" which actually i said.
okay, lets break it down for you..
neither you nor anyone can or is supposed to comment in a non-neutral manner (barring VIEWS) on any product or spare or anything as a matter of fact that you've not used or even seen ever in your life or have had even the distinctest of experience with..
i have used this oil basically because i really love my bike and want to keep it in the best possible condition without modifying anything (unlike some who go for imported, upsized engine parts). for this purpose, i thought of using this additive, that too only after having numerous chats with paulson (really nice guy to talk to, talk to him if you have any doubts) and after clarifying a few doubts from neoakshay who has been using it for a long time now and knowing that many others have been using it and are happy with the results, i went for it....
and here, i am giving my FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE and a positive review, unlike you.
breaking it down further,
YOU - Not used the oil - negative comments.
I - Used it, happy - """"REVIEW""""
get the point?
all that i am saying without any intention of any sort of pun is that PLEASE don't spam the thread, leave it for discussion regarding the bike and not this specific product..
also, read what i write carefully and specially what is written below,
I AM NOT TRYING TO SELL ANYTHING, I AM NOT A DEALER, JUST A SATISFIED CONSUMER..
If i like R15 and post about it, you can't say that im trying to impose it on anyone or that i am SELLING it as you said.
learn the difference between reviewing and worthless speculation before continuing this discussion(not argument), which from my side is now over.
one more point to be made clear - I am totally against advertising the product here, and am just reviewing it.
Peace.

Originally Posted by punarvasu

Paulson,
You cannot understand what punarvasu means because you don’t know what India is. One more point: I am not willing to make money by “doing” or “selling” anything.
My questions are still not answered by you.
You have the right to sell that spurious liquid but this is not the proper place to advertise it.
My intension was to bring this worthless liquid to the notice of the bikers; not to argue with you or any other who sells it.
And, as you and all other bikers know, it was not for the personal benefit as you and Paulson do here, but for the benefit of the bikers.

Originally Posted by psr

Oil additives are not based on CC of engines....
Multigrade Oil viscosity will change with temperature,along with their flow rate within engine..
An additive can reduce leak in compression ,and restore to stock levels,but can not increase compression.
Oil acts as coolant in engine in a lesser,and secondary to it's primary job of keeping moving parts lubed.
Even oils claiming to need a change in 10,000 Kms needs to be changed earlier due to the combustion residues and heat stress shear.
Just my thought

Hi PSRji,
Is it possible to calculate the engine oil qty (approx.) based in the CC of engine & based on engine oil qty determine the additive qty required (based on trial & error)?

[psr]

Originally Posted by abhijitkn

Since there is a long discussion going on in R15 thread, I thought of posting it here for the benefit of others.
Hi PSRji,
Is it possible to calculate the engine oil qty (approx.) based in the CC of engine & based on engine oil qty determine the additive qty required (based on trial & error)?

It is not possible to make a generalised claim or calculation based of CC alone..for example ZMA takes 900 ml of oil for drain and fill while a ZMR takes more than this...and a Pulsar 180 ad a 220 have different oil intakes...and a Ninja 250 and CBR 250 oils and their intakes are different.. a Ninja 650 takes 2.4 L while GTR 650 takes 3.2 Liters of engine oil...so any additive dosage must be based on quantity per Liter or ml of oil used.
Any oil additives must be studied under standard and extreme conditions of temperature,load ,RPM,foaming etc., and results must be repeatable...
The content,and actual functioning of the Additive must be known, so that user is aware of the pros and cons of the usage, before he attempts to use it.

[abhijitkn]

^Thanks a lot for the clarification.