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Old 02-07-2012, 11:54 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Sit there and keep on fighting...
I never said anything about fighting ; its best to shut our mouth & keep cool for several reasons...

1. No matter how much or whatever you speak, nothing is going to work out as the damage is already done & for sure unless the other party realizes that it is their mistake & comes forward to settle, no amount of shouting works
2. Psychologically it would surprise the other party that they would expect you to scream while you keep the cool; this works both in positive & negative. Positive that, they might also keep cool & change their mind; negative, keep shouting to gather sympathy from bystanders. But no matter how much they gain sympathy, if you file a FIR (assume its mistake on your side), you can get away very easily (sad truth, if you're the victim, then, you shell out from insurance)
3. If the other party screams, just let them be so that they cool down after they get hysterical
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I totally agree to all the points above but what if the angry mob tries to beat (the $#!* out of) you.
This usually happens out here:-(

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Old 02-07-2012, 12:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
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what if the angry mob tries to beat (the $#!* out of) you.
This usually happens out here:-(
Yes, quite sad that angry mob tries to take the s*** out of you; on such circumstances, one needs to observe the mood of the crowd before speaking anything. But again, not for every incident does calling the cop will help. Minor falls due to someone's negligence etc are to be just knocked off. Quite sad that our precious rides are taking the beatings, nothing of that sort can be bought to justice.

In any accident, usually one who's not at all involved in the incident or the least injured one start yelling; most of the crowd usually splits up into 4 parts.
1. With the other side
2. With our side
3. Neutral for the moment & waiting to jump into the group that takes upper hand
4. The useless people who wants to watch

Out of the above, #3 & #4 form the most; #4 are totally useless as they don't appear as witness nor they speak for anything; they only want to watch & keep munching out news as if they know all way from Auckland to Alaska!!! #3 will give advice from time to time as if they're wise men...damn fools!!!

Out of all the above, only #1 needs to be put under control because, they're capable of converting #3 & more into their side. Remaining too much silent or shouting too much are usually a threat. Even if we don't increase the head count on #2, the key is to keep #1 under control. But remember, calling Police doesn't help everything, especially at villages. Filing a FIR ASAP does help & it has got its own headaches, but avoids several bigger ones.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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As far as post accident situations are concerned there is a nice thread with loads of info.. Please check out...
First Aid: Handling Post Accident Situations.
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Old 02-07-2012, 02:46 PM   #15 (permalink)
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.......avoids several bigger ones.
nice explanation with worthy points to note down.
Sorry for the OT's everyone..
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:17 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I have personally seen this happens multiple times and everytime i was soo furious that i actually taken a rock from the road and burst this persons windshield just because he wouldnt move and the road was nearly empty on the right side line and just because his huge car couldnt go because of a mere inch, he came outta the car yelling and cussing and me the way im took my helment off and start smacking him with it ( go vegas helmets go) and then grabed him by his coller put him into his car and explained him what he has just done, and he moved outta the lane and left right then and there..

When I was in US, if you didnt move outta the right lane if a ambulance if a cop saw you then it would be a thousand doller ticket, if the offense is repeated the 2nd time, it was 1 day jail and thousand doller ticket and 3rd time was a 1 year suspention on driving licencse and 1 week in jail and/or 10 thousand doller ticket.. somewhere along the lines..

It is a major offence stopping a ambulance because of traffic or any other issues, your playing with someone eles life.. so when you see a ambulance, dont do what i have done at times but atleast do your part to Help that ambulance get to where it needs to go because it's not just one person's life it's that person and their family's life you are playing with..

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Old 02-08-2012, 08:49 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I'll say it's be a criminal offense if a well educated person behaves like this, but it's equally bad when someone JUST watches the whole situation and don't try to put on his/her efforts to clear the traffic ahead of any emergency vehicle.

@ shadcool786: Good job friend... i think, everyone should do this. (keeping in mind that the vehicle's progress won't be affected due to the crowd gathered in such situations...)
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:45 AM   #18 (permalink)
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@ aargee: I don't see any option to send any message to you. Would like to discuss this with you. May be you have taken me wrong. Neither do I support violence. But what will you suggest in such situation? Just to watch it happen? Or go and request those people who don't care for anyone's life? (If you do so, they'll start showing their attitude...) Or wait for the police or any other official to come and solve the issue... What when the time is simply slipping from the hands of affected person in ambulance?

Edit: Again, I do NOT support violence, but behaving according to/depending on the situation is what I suggest...
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They park their vehicles in the lane where the hit has taken place, they do not even move an inch. I know somewhere this is related to insurance but this is the highway... Please correct me if iam wrong.

This is thanks to the law. The cops have to come and do a "panchanama" and verify the cause, who's fault etc. So they have to stay put exactly where and how the accident happened.

I once had an accident in Goa and made the mistake of moving my car to the side for the sake of other highway users who were jammed behind. That was used against me by the other party because "why would he move the car unless he was the one at fault", and the cops were ready to believe.
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Rahul - There's no need to justify me; this forum doesn't compromise on safety forms the basis of any discussion. While a helmet is used for safety & I'm aware it can be used as weapon doesn't mean one can do so & its for one's own safety too.

Come think of it, if one is involved in an accident, they can only think about their loved ones & their rides/drives & they can seldom think about anything else. On such occasion how can we expect them to yield way (unless they're well experienced in accidents everytime, which also means, they're bad riders/drivers)

There's nothing wrong asking them to yield & move aside to pull up for their fights rather than smashing their wind shields. Do that once on a vehicle mounted with political flag & one's life is over!!! If they don't listen & start showing up attitude, time to gather public support to ask them from blocking the traffic. (Even otherwise, every passer by slow down their vehicle to watch the fight, so how does one handle that).

If you do not support violence, how's vandalism different? Let me tell you my friend, people are not the same, our friend was lucky enough that day for some reason. Let me tell you an incident that happened with a friend of mine.

These guys were on a Qualis a trip returning from Madurai towards Chennai a group of 8-9, all guys group on a high triple digit speeds; so there comes another guy driving another Qualis even aggressively. So our group got tempted & got into highway racing. Not long after this, the single handed guy took out a long knife (from the high speed vehicle) & warned them.

Point is, you never know what sort of person is the other guy until disaster strikes.

Boomshiva - perfect valid point; I'd thought over those lines long time. Best thing probably will be is to take pics from all angles & put the vehicles aside, if movable.
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