Loud Pipes Save Lives - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

2write · 10-18-2008, 12:35 PM

I had an old thread on how loud pipes can save motorcyclists.

Anyways that debate can be revived again and is worth reviving.

With the tall SUVs and monster vehicles such as trailers and reckless ST buses on the Highway - a puny motorcycle is never noticed until it is too late.

Plus cage drivers enjoy the loud music on their stereo player and talk on the phone and continue driving irresponsibly on the road.

For a motorcycle rider - all this can mean death - WHY ? - because he is unnoticed and gets bumped or run over since cage drivers are not aware of the motorcycle in the vicinity.

I had earlier posted a Bikernet Independent study on how loud pipes save lives. Then Oakland Police started using loud pipes after the death of their fellow patrolling rider on duty.

THE NEW DATA from Oakland Police legal fight to save lives is here:
Oakland Police Choose Loud Pipes

This is true for 2 wheelers as we are at risk from careless - BLIND - cage drivers who won't see your bike until it goes under their wheels.

Other reports:
Motorcycles are good:
What Is Good for Motorcyclists Is Good for You Too

See Past News at bottom half of this page:
Bikernet News

Regards,
UD

Aryan · 10-18-2008, 12:36 PM

Topic Approved.

Samy · 10-20-2008, 04:35 AM

I stay pretty close to Oakland. Well...here most of the bikes have aftermarket pipes.

But, Riding in California and in , say, Maharastra is pretty different. Guys riding SUVs in CA are not used to see much bikes on the road. Very very few ppl ride here...and most of guys don't know anything about motorcycles. When dirving their car on the streets they are looking out for cars not for the bikes.

Most of the ppl in india are used to drive their car with bikes on the road. They do notice bikes on the road.

wierd_san · 10-21-2008, 10:45 AM

hey i can vouch for loud-pipes, my RD somehow seems to part traffic wit a certain ease, maybe i should start callin it Moses

greyanaroth · 10-21-2008, 01:20 PM

Loud pipes might get you noticed, but in a lot of instances it might scare the shit out of alot of people as well. I once almost shat my pants when I hear this late 90s SBK coming out of KRP on the ring road suddenly accelerated behind me while I was in an auto - full squid - but definitely startled me!!!

It's a very fine edge to walk, loud pipes - sometimes it works, othertimes it might actually result in a scared driver doing something stupid once scared!

hitanshu · 10-21-2008, 01:27 PM

With all due respect, its fundamentally flawed. Cliched and maybe works in the west but is a ghastly source of irritation to other bikers in stuck traffic, and with even bikers listening to FM, I don't see the point really.

Take a ride in a volvo/car/whatever.

Yes, its great for attention whoring, but that's about it.

rickyshh · 10-21-2008, 01:45 PM

Louder pipes for getting noticed are definitely not the way to go, in India at least.

Already so much honking and "shor sharaba", louder bikes will lead to noise pollution only, nothing else.
As far as the "getting noticed" point is concerned, I feel if a person is driving irresponsibly, he can even leave a louder bike unnoticed.

Samy · 10-23-2008, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickyshh

Louder pipes for getting noticed are definitely not the way to go, in India at least.

Already so much honking and "shor sharaba", louder bikes will lead to noise pollution only, nothing else.
As far as the "getting noticed" point is concerned, I feel if a person is driving irresponsibly, he can even leave a louder bike unnoticed.

I agree with this.

2write · 10-23-2008, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samy

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickyshh

As far as the "getting noticed" point is concerned, I feel if a person is driving irresponsibly, he can even leave a louder bike unnoticed.

I agree with this.

So you two are saying that all of us should drive IRRESPONSIBLY in order to get noticed and thus save our lives by driving irresponsibly ?

Think again !!!

HydroXidE · 10-23-2008, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2write

So you two are saying that all of us should drive IRRESPONSIBLY in order to get noticed and thus save our lives by driving irresponsibly ?

Think again !!!

You didn't get his point .. please read again ..

He meant drivers 'driving' cars irresponsibly might ignore even the loudest thing on the road.

Any normal person would know that US and India (or SE-Asian countries) are at opposite ends of the spectrum with respect to motorcycling. Most of their studies and surveys on the US road and riding conditions just don't apply here.

10-18-2008, 12:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
2write Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bomb-aye, INDIA Posts: 102	Loud Pipes Save Lives I had an old thread on how loud pipes can save motorcyclists. Anyways that debate can be revived again and is worth reviving. With the tall SUVs and monster vehicles such as trailers and reckless ST buses on the Highway - a puny motorcycle is never noticed until it is too late. Plus cage drivers enjoy the loud music on their stereo player and talk on the phone and continue driving irresponsibly on the road. For a motorcycle rider - all this can mean death - WHY ? - because he is unnoticed and gets bumped or run over since cage drivers are not aware of the motorcycle in the vicinity. I had earlier posted a Bikernet Independent study on how loud pipes save lives. Then Oakland Police started using loud pipes after the death of their fellow patrolling rider on duty. THE NEW DATA from Oakland Police legal fight to save lives is here: Oakland Police Choose Loud Pipes This is true for 2 wheelers as we are at risk from careless - BLIND - cage drivers who won't see your bike until it goes under their wheels. Other reports: Motorcycles are good: What Is Good for Motorcyclists Is Good for You Too See Past News at bottom half of this page: Bikernet News Regards, UD __________________ "Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge." - Paul Gauguin Freedom Fiction pulp .....:::::: Lounge of the Lazy Mind ***************************************

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hitanshu Resident BullShit Eliminator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Out of coverage area Posts: 577	With all due respect, its fundamentally flawed. Cliched and maybe works in the west but is a ghastly source of irritation to other bikers in stuck traffic, and with even bikers listening to FM, I don't see the point really. Take a ride in a volvo/car/whatever. Yes, its great for attention whoring, but that's about it. __________________ http://www.bikenomads.com/wiki/index.php/Leh - All you ever need to know about getting Leh'd. My posting Philosophy

10-21-2008, 01:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
rickyshh Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Faridabad Posts: 44	Louder pipes for getting noticed are definitely not the way to go, in India at least. Already so much honking and "shor sharaba", louder bikes will lead to noise pollution only, nothing else. As far as the "getting noticed" point is concerned, I feel if a person is driving irresponsibly, he can even leave a louder bike unnoticed. __________________ "Rather than love, than money, than faith, than fame... give me truth" -Thoreau

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10-20-2008, 04:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
Samy Pulsar Rocks !!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 175	I stay pretty close to Oakland. Well...here most of the bikes have aftermarket pipes. But, Riding in California and in , say, Maharastra is pretty different. Guys riding SUVs in CA are not used to see much bikes on the road. Very very few ppl ride here...and most of guys don't know anything about motorcycles. When dirving their car on the streets they are looking out for cars not for the bikes. Most of the ppl in india are used to drive their car with bikes on the road. They do notice bikes on the road.

10-21-2008, 10:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
wierd_san Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 155	hey i can vouch for loud-pipes, my RD somehow seems to part traffic wit a certain ease, maybe i should start callin it Moses

10-21-2008, 01:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
greyanaroth Studio Wh0re! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Delhi, India Posts: 102	Loud pipes might get you noticed, but in a lot of instances it might scare the shit out of alot of people as well. I once almost shat my pants when I hear this late 90s SBK coming out of KRP on the ring road suddenly accelerated behind me while I was in an auto - full squid - but definitely startled me!!! It's a very fine edge to walk, loud pipes - sometimes it works, othertimes it might actually result in a scared driver doing something stupid once scared!

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