julianpaul

in case you didn't get what my post was about it's that manufacturers in collusion with the govt. are making fools of the general public.

what india really needs is a decent twin cylinder in the range of 250-400cc. sri lanka has a capcity limit of 250cc for motorcycles and they have a pretty decent variety of bikes there. that capacity is enough for regular use in indian driving conditions.

all i'm asking for is a decent twin that i can use on a daily basis. not an sbk. couldn't afford one even at 5 lakhs anyway.

instead, we get digital this and injected that. where else in the world would a company apply for and be granted of all things, a patent on twin spark plugs in 'small capacity engines'.

as long as we accept; that's what's referred to as the 'chalta hain' attitude, we will never see true progress. and it's evident in other things too, not just biking. basic infrastructure, internet access, heck even bare necessities like water/electric supply and sewage systems are lacking.

remember, there's no point cribbing against the manufacturers or govt. WE are to blame for accepting ...

you are very wrong about the number of people ready to spring big bucks on vehicles. and it's not celebrities or politicians. ordinary people like you and me, except they have a lot more money to spend.

if suzi could sell 100+ sbks at 12+ lakhs, then at 6 lakhs they wouldn't sell 200, it would be an exponential figure.

and if i'm not mistaken the r15 sells for more than a lakh. surely, more than a 'handful' have bought those ...

True change comes with a change in attitude, not by changing govts. or names of cities.

pads

my friend in a population of more than 1 billion(120 crore) a handful also means a lot....... just b'cauz of these handful peoples we see so many foreign cars of all reputed co.s........ we even see a class B segment car priced at 14lakhs and another is waiting to be launched at the end of this year nearly at the same price (normal calss B segments cars are priced at say 2.5-4 lakhs)....... even julianpaul gave a nice figure about SBKs....... so before accepting anything blindly first look around and if necessary raise your voice......... not in protest but to ask for more........

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Wheel_Spin

I agree with you totally. The amount of taxes the government levies on CBUs is completely ridiculous. If that were to be scrapped we would all be able to afford superbikes and such.

One of the popular reasons they give for the high taxes is that they want to protect the local players and also want the international players to set up base here instead of importing them from a different country. But such idiocracy prevents many a consumers from getting their dream bikes and also leaves doubts in the mind of the manufacturer about the volumes they might be able to do here.

Apart from that let's be honest there is a Automotive lobby at work here who try every under-handed trick so the CBU duty stays at that 100%+ level. Imagine this, who in their right minds would buy a Safari or a Scorpio when a Toyota Fortuner comes in the same price bracket ?

Although our desi manufacturers need to be applauded but there are certain things about them that are not something an Indian will be proud of.

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wierd_san

well but like the new airtel add say's 'impatience is new the new world ain't it'

julianpaul

that didn't even make any sense.

if you mean that we're being impatient by demanding better bikes, then hell yeah!

i've been waiting since around '98 when lml and daelim were supposed to come out with the vr 135. it's just been waiting ever since. so yeah, i'm F***ING impatient!

2009 and the best (mainstream) bikes in a country that practically lives on two wheels are a 0.15 and a 0.22 litre single. Oh, but they have digital thingies! yay

wierd_san

^^excuse the typo

but acc to me [and u can call one-track minded], since the RD i have not seen one decent bike on the Indian roads, yes i havn't and i still ain't seein one, not even a frickin semblance of it. so now i have reached a point beyond impatience call it hopelessness, untill some Manufacturer brings out somethin with over 300cc and 25+ bhp i will have to continue saving for the SBK i have always wanted.

Samarth 619

Guys, big bikes can come via CKD, at right prices, if we form a cartel together ... Unite for one particular bike and demand it, in front of the Media!

Then, the companies will notice. Show them a big customer group, then they'll take action!
Cribbing will be useful, only if we get OPEN with it. Doing so on forums gives nothing!

But, there are 2 big problems here:-->

1. The members from big cities should take up this as an initiative. Open a New Thread and discuss how to pass this message to Media & Government.

2. You HAVE TO decide on a particular bike you expect. Different choices won't do. For example, make that FZ6 - the HALF-FAIRED one, for everyone involved in it.

It is my sincere request to the members from Metros to accumulate and plan this thing, and then work out on how we can spread the message.

We know the Media, they hunt down and spread any news. Nobody is going to give you your right, decorated in a silver plate. Demand for it! Demand it the media way!

Please read my message completely and reply back ... especially members from Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai. Kolkata and other big cities...

kaynmantis

Bike scenario is evolving slowly. Yes, very very slowly. In more than two decades there has been and increase of about 100 cc only in this modern era.
At this rate its going to take a very very long time to reach 1k . Yes, there are superbikes available in the market. But they are only for the few elite .

Cars has been evolving at a much faster rate. Cribbing won't help, but thats the reality.

Samarth 619

^^ Did anyone read my earlier post at all?

I was right! Xbhp members can just Crib & Cry in a closed room. They don't have guts to be open... I'm giving a pathway of the effort we can take, and I get no replies...?

and I'm in a damn small city with a 8 Lac Population ...!

moeed

Nice topic. Good to read all your views.

@samarth
Nice idea bro.