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Old 07-14-2009, 11:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up One should accept, wait and not crib....

It’s been quite sometime that I see a lot of people saying that we have bad bikes. It’s too bad that we do not weigh the importance of the stride Indian manufacturers are trying to take and the risks that they take. We burn with our passion for Bikes, better Bikes which we see outside India and rarely in India.

I am not saying lay down and never expect us to have good roads, superbikes flowing from our manufacturers and seeing one with a good lot of our crowd.

It’s been slow but not stagnant growth that we see, moving from 100cc bikes with basic looks we have opened up better and some bikes have done good globally. Well agreed that Bajaj is sitting on its laurels of Pulsar too long but look what this bike has done outside India too. We have Yamaha building its confidence in the Indian market by coming out with FZ-16 and R-15, which are well greeted in the Indian market.

The majority of the Indian market demands a bike which meets the handful of requirement, go to and fro from office, carry vegetable back home, take a family member along and all this in a price that doesn’t hit the pocket too badly.

Thus, even if we have the craving for bikes with high power and all, till the time the buying capacity improves, till the time the confidence of big producers increases in the Indian market coz you just cant expect them to get 1000 bikes here and sell 100 or so, they are not only driven by the passion but are also driven by profit that they will make.

But see the things are improving too, you have Hyabusa, R1, MT-01, Fireblade in India, I know at a good price, but naturally they won’t set up a production plant in India for fewer sales they make, so it can’t become comparatively cheap so easily.

Thus, we need to wait for Indian manufacturers to grow and foreign players to settle, its not a one day job.

I know one will tell me you might get old by the time what you say happens. Well let that be.....lets applaud and not crib....


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Old 07-14-2009, 11:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Exactly! Rightly Said my friend!

It's a change that has taken place along a decade from the time's of RX-100's and KB-100's when i learnt riding it has now improved from 100cc's to atleast a commuter 200c or 225cc.. and so has the passion for having bigger bikes has grown.

We can see the change in the market,but we tend to Crib because a normal human tendency as he is never satisfied with what he has and wants the next step,same is the case..

We should actually applaud the way the industry has progressed and accordingly wait for another decade () for a CBR 600 to be launched in INDIA and india's industry to atleast design somthing more than 225cc.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:40 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I completely agree with what Rahul has to say, cribbing aint gonna help, and also we should appreciate the fact that the manufacturers are at least taking tep in the right direction.
But there are somethings which NEED to CHANGE, take for example the ban on import of bikes below 800cc. I dont see how is it going to hinder our "Desi" manufacturers' market At least they can lower the bar to at least a 400cc or so, at least. This is just one of the many things that are long awaiting a change and I think its a high time they do.
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take for example the ban on import of bikes below 800cc. I dont see how is it going to hinder our "Desi" manufacturers' market At least they can lower the bar to at least a 400cc or so, at least. This is just one of the many things that are long awaiting a change and I think its a high time they do.
Rightly pointed out......I guess mandate made and never visited back....

Or that's probably our manufacturers think they can go upto that level in some time hence taking the cushion so that they are not harmed when they step into that segment...
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I guess the government too should do away with the taxes on CBU's which prevents people from buying superbikes. AFAIK, the superbikes sold in india have a market price of about 5-6 lakhs but because of the taxes levied, there is a huge dent on the sales. I guess we just have to wait.
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someone pull the evolution revolution thread.

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I guess the government too should do away with the taxes on CBU's which prevents people from buying superbikes. AFAIK, the superbikes sold in india have a market price of about 5-6 lakhs but because of the taxes levied, there is a huge dent on the sales. I guess we just have to wait.
To my knowledge they are priced a little higher at Rs 7.5-8.5 lakhs
thats the MRP. So the prices are relatively high not very high.
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Right.

Let's accept that we pay 2.4 times the global price for quality bikes just because they're CBUs and our govt(s) decided to make more money on that.

Let's accept that manufacturers are systematically ripping off the indian consumer by upgrading the stickers on their bikes and even charging a premium for that. pro power plus anyone?

Let's accept that at the best we get 20cc upgrades, that too after many, many years. When did the P180 come out? 2001. And today, 8 years later, they've managed to increase 40cc? That's 0.04 litre in a different perspective. I don't even wanna start about twin cylinders or the lack of them.

And you know who is to blame for this? No, not the manufacturer. You and me. For gettin all hyper over an added half-fairing, or a red coloured rear-wheel and running all the way from the bank to the showroom to plonk your money on the 'latest'

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Let's accept that at the best we get 20cc upgrades, that too after many, many years. When did the P180 come out? 2001. And today, 8 years later, they've managed to increase 40cc? That's 0.04 litre in a different perspective. I don't even wanna start about twin cylinders or the lack of them.
I think one can count handfull number of people who are ready to spend more than a lac or two for a bike in India, with that mentality at the back of the mind how do you think mfgr come out with something over these years where they spend that much on production itself... It takes time to get ancillaries also to upgrade to supply them such parts which are made in India....or else you get all supply from abroad only n so build cost is again moving upwards..

You did point out 40cc 8 years, Well thats true n yes its true not becoz of handfull of us...but a large mass of us...
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