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Old 07-30-2009, 09:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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For past few months there was constant checking by Police Officials in my area. The checking included Helmet, and sometimes Registration Documents and Insurance papers. Today, a police man got killed when a biker hit him hard with his bike. I would like to know more about out country's laws with these cases and checking.

1. Is it mandatory to have all the documents while driving a vehicle (car or bike)? Please specify what documents are supposed to be carried around?

2. If the driver has just the driving license and is wearing a helmet how much does he need to shell as fine?

3. If a police man stops the driver and gets hurt/killed in the attempt, how does the government takes it.

4. Is it mandatory to have insurance while driving in India?

5. If a vehicle doesn't have insurance how much fine is charged?

6. Is State Police authorized to check helmet/documents etc from commuters?

7. What is the importance of Traffic Police if State Police can do all this work?

8. For checking of this sort who gives the orders?


I should mention that people in my locality are fed up with this checking. Even wearing a helmet and driving with responsibility once I was caught and was asked for "Documents" when I forwarded the License and RC book I was asked for Insurance, and since I didn't have insurance on my bike I was asked to pay fine of Rs100. When I paid it I asked him to write that you have taken this money because I didn't have insurance, but the police wala said don't ask so much else you will have to pay Rs.1000 for not having insurance. I was pissed and got out of there as neither I'm a powerful person nor do I know anything so there was only my loss if I might have argued with him in INDIA.
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Nice thread Ayush.. I too would like to have some info about it..
May be right to information act can help us
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Old 07-31-2009, 01:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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1. Is it mandatory to have all the documents while driving a vehicle (car or bike)? Please specify what documents are supposed to be carried around? Registration Certificate, License, Insurance papers, PUC(in some states).

2. If the driver has just the driving license and is wearing a helmet how much does he need to shell as fine? Varies from state to state. Ballpark of around Rs. 500 (legally with receipt). Else, Rs. 100 is good enough (goes to the policemen's pocket directly, not to the govt).

3. If a police man stops the driver and gets hurt/killed in the attempt, how does the government takes it. Not much idea. IMO, it is the driver's fault.

4. Is it mandatory to have insurance while driving in India? Yes, with up to date policies.

5. If a vehicle doesn't have insurance how much fine is charged? Same as 2.

6. Is State Police authorized to check helmet/documents etc from commuters? I too have doubts on this one. But, I believe they are authorised.

7. What is the importance of Traffic Police if State Police can do all this work?

8. For checking of this sort who gives the orders?
Tried answering some of the questions.
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Ok for ppl who asked questions, u get all these answers when u apply for license you can clarify and i am sure some traffic police site has it mentioned, well anyways.

1. Is it mandatory to have all the documents while driving a vehicle (car or bike)? Please specify what documents are supposed to be carried around?

Ans: you need to have Bike/car Registration Certificate (RC), Valid Insurance and Driving License (or smart card with all the info) without License and insurance you are as good as a murderer in a race car.


2. If the driver has just the driving license and is wearing a helmet how much does he need to shell as fine?

Ans: The fine varies from State to state as these rulings are defined by state traffic police or high court until challanged, in most cases bike would be impounded and can be registered as stolen. If bike papers are not on your name they should be either on your fathers name as on license or you should have NOC from the last owner.

3. If a police man stops the driver and gets hurt/killed in the attempt, how does the government takes it.

Ans: What do u think? Obviously get arrested and ready for trial.

4. Is it mandatory to have insurance while driving in India?

Ans: Yes!

5. If a vehicle doesn't have insurance how much fine is charged?

Ans: list of various fines in karanataka Bangalore City Traffic Police

ideally it should be a court fine where judge decides.


6. Is State Police authorized to check helmet/documents etc from commuters?

Ans: No only Traffic Cops that too above the level of constable. If you mean regular state police just ask them for challan they do not have book and cannot fine you simple!

7. What is the importance of Traffic Police if State Police can do all this work?

Ans: Already mentioned in question 6, more or less irrelevant question, you answered it yourself

8. For checking of this sort who gives the orders?
Ans: generally by traffic commissioner or court you can see stamp on your challan. Sometimes state govt give orders to commissioner for a check
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6. Is State Police authorized to check helmet/documents etc from commuters?

Ans: No only Traffic Cops that too above the level of constable.
If you mean regular state police just ask them for challan they do not have book and cannot fine you simple!
Good to know but, can anyone verify this? (Motor Vehicle Act, etc., esp. in relation to Villages where there are no Traffic Police)
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Except the driving license,you can keep the xerox copy of the insurance,PUC,and RC attested by a gazetted officer with you instead of the originals.
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To avoid the cops, It is compulsory to carry all the documents (DL, RC, Insurance, PUC) and wear a helmet while riding the bike at all times. In addition to this, your bike should have a proper number plate i.e number in black on white number plate written in bold letters. Obey all the traffic rules. After this, even if the cops stop you, they will check all the documents and leave you. Don't try to escape if the cop tries to stop you, it will make matters worse.
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Except the driving license,you can keep the xerox copy of the insurance,PUC,and RC attested by a gazetted officer with you instead of the originals.
hmmm are you sure we need to attest it ??? because I have been carrying only the photocopies and not the originals ... have been stopped a few times but they seem to be ok with the copies itself without any attestation ...
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^^ Depends upon the state. In Assam, they will straightaway tell you the photocopies are invalid. Attested copies, they will reluctantly accept.
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