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Race Concepts
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Bangalore
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One of your kitted karizma which belonged to Kushanth has suffered the most number of problems than anything else. Broken pistons and mismatching ignition timing etc. Lets get down to some physics now. An NA engine cant produce 50% in stock form by merely injecting NOS without doing anything to support the injection. Thats when you result in blow-ups. Due to the sudden rise in combustion pressure, the dynamic compression shoots and the engine expriences high levels of stress which internally damages the internals. Connecting rod, piston, big-end, rings etc take all the beating. NOS is a short-cut to make some fancy power and nothing realistic unless you do the real part of tuning. To support NOS injection, you need to run your own ignition map courtesy a programmable ignition system and dynamically vary the timing. Else a blow-up is sure and the claimed 50% in pure bull-shit. The same karizma which ran the NOS kit 2 yrs ago is now the fastest street spec karizma in the country and running on only pump gas - 87 oct. No NOS nothing. What Kushanth claimed to be fast 2 yrs ago with the NOS is nothing after the mods we did. The bike clocks 400mtrs in 15.5secs with full body weight(145kgs). This figure I challenge you is impossible with whatever NOS kit you can plonk. let alone the engine handling extra boost and being reliable with 50% more power boost. For 8000-9000 bucks, a super reliable and street smart karizma engine can be built and the engine will be bullet proof. Thats tuning! |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: pune
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dude chill, let me tell u the solenoid used in this kit can even add 250 hp to ur engine if used big jets. so, get it confirmed from the guy about whom ur speaking, that which jet size he was using those days when he newly installed the kit. i remember everything about his bike and himself. now should i tell u, which jet size he was using? he was very greedy to use NOS without jets. he has not put any jet in the pipe, that means whenever he activates NOS without the jet, whole nitrous of 250 hp was supplied in 17 hp engine.
and check out the thread again, i hav already told, NOS can be used without affecting the engine if used correctly. now u tell me what will happen if u dont put the jet in the carburettor, will ur bike run like hayabusa? arrey, it will get flooded. everything has to be done in some limit. |
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Can you proove anything that you claim? Can you post a video of your bike's acceleration/top speed?
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: KL-7 - KL-1
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Sounds like BS. Prolly just a scam. Dunno know about your system or that of the bike you are referring. But, going by this post, you fixed a NOS tank with a direct port somewhere in the intake after the carb(without any restricting jets!). So each time, he hit the button, the nos pressure should be so high that it would go kaboom! (there would be enough pressure for the nos to come out through the other side of the carb)Now where does the solenoid come into the picture? is that the valve? or ou have the jets on a solenoid valve? You should've been arrested for consciously putting your customer's life in grave danger(if what you said you did is true !)Quote:
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Bangalore
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All have ways of buying some cheap chinese kits from abroad and selling in india. Now the latest trend is selling some ABS kit for 700 bucks which they buy from abroad for half the price. Everything is a money making trend and there is no real tuning happening. shoving a NOS tank on these puny Indian engines which do not have great internals is a joke. They cannot take the boost and you need the right technical approach to set things right. Lets talk numbers here anyways, so how fast is your Karizma? Do you have some v-box results or a test data. If i remember right, wasnt some enticer with your kit featured in Bike India? Clearly stated that the engine was clattery later. Injecting NOS into a stock engine is like a moron taking steriods without working out! |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: pune
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i hav tol him everything while sending the kit, that time i tol him not to directly put the big jet, start from smaller and then move little if there is not at all jerk. but what he did he tol me later when his engine was opened. that he tried using the NOS without jet and its was awesome. i told him u will open-up ur engine soon.then he said he already did. i dont misguide my customers. they are like my good friends.
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: pune
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actually i want to put the video and all the stuff, but not havin cam. all these pics are posted from cell. trying to get the cam so that i can post it all.
my bikes engine is also stock, only k&n(with stock size jets), ngk iridium plug and petronas fully synthetic engine oil is installed. |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: pune
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solenoid is placed on bottle side, next to valve of the bottle and jet is placed on other side, where the NOS pipe is injecting in manifold. jet is a brass thing very finely drilled to control the flow of nitrous.
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