Originally Posted by pulsater

you friend has some strong views about quality and I suppose that's how he managed to get 100% money back for his bike from the company, which sounds unbelievable. I agree the level of fit and finish of automobiles build in India is far low than the international standards but that no way means we can't do it or wont do it.

Each manufacturer should declare the life cycle of their bikes / cars.
agree, but a slight hint of the auto mobile reliability can be judged from its warranty period advertised by manufacturer. More it is, higher the confident buy it can prove to be.

You may be shocked to learn but there is a strong possibility of these people purposely degrading the quality so that the vehicle gets naturally damaged early and they get customers again.
No way I will buy the same brand bike/car if it (hypothetically) gets rusted away, no matter how fast or economical it is. Atleast I will think twice and making customers think is not a golden rule in business.

You purchase a 200 rupees Steel plate to eat food and it will never rust in your life time and these bikes costing so many thousands of rupees Rust within first week of delivery.
plates dont do the mileage of lakhs of kilometers in real world.

Are they using the Recycled Scrap Steel? Don't you smell anything fishy in this?
unless and until the recycled scrap is of good grade, I don't think scrap metal shouldn't be used to build new bikes and cars. It saves loads of manpower, energy and manufacturing cost for good, that could be pass on to the customer.

Now, about the mirror, to have good coverage of the rear view you need a more convex mirror, and it is costly so they have put up a less convex mirror, as they do not care for your safety!
I think this is the only thing to note and is indeed true that generally bikes don't have a convex mirror which allows better rear view than a flat mirror, but this has less to do with the quality and more to do with functionality.

It is like if you quantify Technology from 1 to5, 5 being the latest and 1 the oldest, and if western countries are getting vehicles of technology grade 5 and India is getting the technology grade 2
I hope you just talking about Indian Automobile industry

I have heard that there is some Government organization in India which checks and certifies every new Motor vehicles in India before it is launched for sale.
tell him its called ARAI

Originally Posted by pulsater

you friend has some strong views about quality and I suppose that's how he managed to get 100% money back for his bike from the company, which sounds unbelievable. I agree the level of fit and finish of automobiles build in India is far low than the international standards but that no way means we can't do it or wont do it.

Originally Posted by Samarth 619

Although, even my Pulsar 180 UG3 has rusted a bit, near handlebars, but that's after 2 years.. Any money back for me?

Originally Posted by Guru_007

Ya guys it is true.....not only that particular person.....another owner of GS150 on the GS thread has got his 100% money back that too after the bike ran for 8000+kms on the ODO and nearly 5months old.
You can guess the amount of rust that would have happened in the bike.

I really think that the company should take strong steps to solve this. I mean it is really ridiculous to have a rust in a new bike.
I never even thought that would happen until I came across people facing it in the GS. My 3 year old pulsar does not have a spot of rust on it.

Originally Posted by antz.bin

Feel free to name the foreign brand. This is not a political platform... this is a forum for free xBHPians...

Originally Posted by silver_falcon_46

If you haven't noticed, it is the Sony,Panasonic that give a 1 year warranty on TVs and the Akai and Aiwa that give you a 7 year and 10 year warranty, does that mean the Akai is better? Everyone knows the answer to that. Same goes with motorcycles, I dont want to take names here. A certain Indian manufacturer gives a 5year unlimited engine warranty, although I can tell you in terms of engine quality they do not stand close to certain Japanese manufacturers. Does this have relevance to quality?