justyhere

This posting is just for all to know the kind of bitter experience I had with a super-bike dealer, Babu (AKA Aman), a dealer from Mumbai. I really do not know how dealing with super bikes work. AFAIK, the dealer is the person who introduces the buyer with the seller and cuts the deal with his brokerage extra.

I was in search for a legal CBR 600rr for almost a year now and finally saw one with the dealer and started the talks. Even though he said the bike is a clean import with all the papers, I need to know more about it and called him couple if times to know about the bike.

To start off he was not ready to talk to the owner for any kinda negotiation on the price. After which I asked him to just send a soft copy of papers to my mail ID as I live in Bangalore which he denied again and started being rude.

Finally when I check, the bike doesn't have an insurance and he is not ready to just give the license plate number. What he told me was " I have lot of questions and don't take the bike its not for me ".

I am not sure how many of you know this dealer personally but for others, please be careful when you deal with him. A dealer who is not ready to disclose any thing about the bike and being rude is not a dealer, but a danger.

And my search is still on

Noor

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shv18

i guess looking out for a clean cbr 600 is unfortunately a no no... unless you are ok going ahead with ninja 650 the new 2012. an official i4 cbr 600 is still a distant dream

Samarth 619

Stop dealing with such people. When you come in contact with someone who is of this type, just remember:

No Contract, no contact,
No Cash, no ass,
No Money, no honey,
and finally, no dealings, no feelings.

A good dealer has to ensure that parties don't strike a mutual deal.
For this purpose, he maintains a personal contact of both seller and buyer, to ensure that a "secret" deal doesn't happen. They can meet safely, there's no problem in that.

Avoid this guy, he's being too much on the safe side. He's definitely hiding something... Some of your requests seem totally acceptable..


@ shv18: He's looking for an owner-imported second hand CBR which has full taxes paid, not a new one. One which is imported through "Transfer of Residence" Mode of Import.

justyhere

I even told him that what ever his commission is will pay. At least let me talk to the owner to find out more about the bike. He was like a bigg fat NO!!

Very true, if he is being very safe, then he has something to hide. He claimed that the bike is a TR. At first he told me all the papers are perfect. Later when I start asking about insurance and some detail, he goes wild..

And yeah, I definitely do not want a new bike.

princezahed

The best part is, the dealer being spoken about here is actually a member of xbhp. You will find lots of ads of his on the forum. He was not willing to send a soft copy of the papers, let justin speak to the owner, nothing. Its a good thing that justin avoided going to Mumbai or else he would have surely wasted his time and money.

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shanu kalra

brother the same thing happened to me,aman is abullshitt person who makes his commisions i know him ,i suggest you stop continue dealing with him.

justyhere

Thanks to you too.. I actually believed the dealer.. I guess you helped me out of it

justyhere

No more dude.. Done with that fellow. I expected some decency in his deals.. But was wrong

samyakmodi

This usually happens as nowadays dealers don't just work on commission. they work on margin. gone are the days of brokers. these guys are dealers. there is no way they would answer many questions over the phone. yeah - it seems rude, but that's the way it is. and it's just not about negotiating with the price. the final price of the bike is usually decided when you are on the table and negotiating with hard cash/cheque/DD.
in no way i am trying to justify this guys misbehavior, but please keep this one little fact in mind whenever you are dealing with anyone. these guys can't make out who's on the other side of the phone : a genuine buyer or a poser. usually lots of enthusiasts go to them everyday asking all kind of questions as if they are going to buy the bike (trust me - even i have done it). end of the day these guys come down to just one way of dealing. keep the cash on the table and we are ready to answer any question you want to know.

anyway few un-solicited tips. NEVER EVER ask the dealer to send you the pictures of the bike in the first call itself. simply ask them about the paper work like : how much is the duty paid on the bike. how much kms it has done. what is the tyre condition and then the expected price. once that is done, politely ask him to give you sometime to get back to him. in the next call, whenever you call, re-introduce yourself and ask him for a scanned copy of the duty papers and RC. and while you are at it ask him to send you the pictures of the bike too.
once that is done and you are sure you want to go ahead with that bike, ask him how much is his brokerage. not charges, but brokerage. if he says that it's 2% then just accept it and ask him to contact the seller for an appointment at a mutually agreeable date.
chances are he might want to avoid you and the seller meeting - but assure him that you are sincere about paying him his charges and you need to meet the owner when you want to finalise the deal.

please remember to be polite in all these times and always and i mean ALWAYS keep your excitement in check. usually it's the excitement that makes them think that 1. either you are desperate and can easily be duped OR 2. you are just an everyday enthusiast who is just wasting his time.


anyways that said - another problem with these dealers is that they tend to be extra cautious as they are always scared of coming across some custom/dri official posing as a buyer over the phone.

shanu - i am sure you have your reasons to be angry with this guy, but i suggest please don't get abusive here. and if possible please do share your experience with us.

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