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Old 11-14-2008, 03:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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What I feel is that in India their is a serious lack of options, we have no bike in from 250cc to 1000cc except form RE which also kinda affects the thought process.
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Old 11-14-2008, 04:08 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Post I think this should answer the question.

Being humans we all grow up with desires and dreams. Desires that are sometimes way too ambitious for our own good. Its the general "want" that we have in all of us.
In kindergarten we "wanted" to have the same cool Johnny Bravo tiffin box that the other kids had. We "wanted" to be dropped to school in the same Maruti Esteem like the rich-kid who was brought to school in his dad's car.
In the 6th grade we all "wanted" to have the largest collection of game-cartridges/dvds than the next door neighbour's kid.
And we all "wanted" to go out with the hottest girl in college.
Even when we're all grown-up we still tend to have such cravings. Albeit, to a lesser extent thanks to wisdom & logical reasoning that comes with age.

Superbikes are no different. More-so in a developing nation like ours; which is fast getting 'westernised'; where our hearts ache with envy when we see them blokes on those huge babies. The movie-inspired generation's desires today are only fuelled more by cinematic seductions.

At the end of the day man IS a social animal and tends to have desires that can give him/her a respectable social status. Be that through expensive homes/iphones or in this case Superbikes.
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Old 11-14-2008, 04:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I am no one to comment on behalf of the entire community. But I would like to share my experience here-

Superbikes are easier to maintain,buy and sell here because of popularity. You will find it easier to find R1s headlight assembly,framesliders here compared to GS's tires.
If you want to resell, you will not get good deals on any practicle bikes.

That means if you want to ride a true motorcycle you need to buy one of the popular models so that it is easier to maintain.

But I would not call it a wastage. Even if it is ,scene is not similar across India also. I know many people in Bangalore and Chennai who do regular track days.They buy superbikes only for tracks.

People with superbikes in North India will be able to utilize them in a couple of years after F1 track is ready here.
I dont know what a superbike feels like; have yet to ride one. But I have a hunch you(^) are correct. But that can only be confirmed by people who own one.

Superbike popularity on this forum and 'Hydrabusa' fanatics on the road are two different breeds. The former crave for more power while the latter are lame-ass Bollywood wannabe-posuers who just want to look like their gods. So, I guess if we are obsessed with them, it has to do with the insane amount of power.

The obsession also starts with them being accessible to only a section of the crowd. The forbidden fruit is the one most sought after. Them being indulgently beautiful doesnt help matters either, nor does the fact that they are outrageously powerful and fast.
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Being humans we all grow up with desires and dreams. Desires that are sometimes way too ambitious for our own good. Its the general "want" that we have in all of us.
In kindergarten we "wanted" to have the same cool Johnny Bravo tiffin box that the other kids had. We "wanted" to be dropped to school in the same Maruti Esteem like the rich-kid who was brought to school in his dad's car.
In the 6th grade we all "wanted" to have the largest collection of game-cartridges/dvds than the next door neighbour's kid.
And we all "wanted" to go out with the hottest girl in college.
Even when we're all grown-up we still tend to have such cravings. Albeit, to a lesser extent thanks to wisdom & logical reasoning that comes with age.

Superbikes are no different. More-so in a developing nation like ours; which is fast getting 'westernised'; where our hearts ache with envy when we see them blokes on those huge babies. The movie-inspired generation's desires today are only fuelled more by cinematic seductions.


At the end of the day man IS a social animal and tends to have desires that can give him/her a respectable social status. Be that through expensive homes/iphones or in this case Superbikes.

u must be in mba first semister or passed out of mba. reading ur post reminded me of those concepts hahaha.very true

i have hardly met any true bikers in my life. most of them use bikes for commuting. anoter lot use it to impress girls and what better way than a sbk. most of these bikers are found 90% of the time at cafes or coffee day's and similar places and 10% on the roads most likely roads leading to those coffee shops.

even here in saudi people buy it and drive it for the show or to impress chiks. i havent met a single guy who will tour or just drive to feel the wind. its all about power and show.
movies have poplularised the bikes to such an extent i see notebooks of school children with dhoom stickers or sbks drawn on the front and back covers.

plus as a nation we are developing faster than anyone. its not the time when one had to wait 6 months to order a chetak. we are living in a very modern india which is comparable to mahy cities in the world. it comes with the whole package of developing. mercs and bmws and ferraris and more more cars for the masses and yes superbikes too are finding their way to the public.

how maNY PEOPLE drive their own merc and bmw. anyone has will know what i am talking about. its an experiance in itself. but they sit in the back while some village guy is driving their super expensive car. its all down to show.
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Old 11-14-2008, 06:14 PM   #16 (permalink)
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@kar1zma:"u must be in mba first semister or passed out of mba. reading ur post reminded me of those concepts hahaha.very true"

OT: Lol. No dude. I'm working, but am contemplating doing an MBA


Coming back to the topic, Yes. Its 75% a facade. The rest are thoroughbred enthusiasts
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i would agree to most peoples comments here.

most people buy a litre bike to look cool.... its about handling as much as power . sportsbikes are made to go around corners on the edge of their tyre. hence the advances in suspension and the seerting and rake angle . if i see a brand new superbike with a flat spot in the centre of the trye and chicken strips that can feed a family then you can generally put them into the 'i like looking good' category . most people start off that way till they discover the real joy of riding in a corner at 80 k' over a straight at 200
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I would not prefer owning a Litre Class ... If I own a Competition 600 (I mean CBR, etc.) then it would be because of:-->

1. Seating Position (feels head down aggressive, felt it on R15)

2. Nice Acceleration & handling ... They are improved every year, that's why!

3. Sound & Looks are lovely ... and that's for my liking only, mind you .. NOT for showing off!

Now, I know I contradict many a guys here, but it's true ...
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I am no one to comment on behalf of the entire community. But I would like to share my experience here-

Superbikes are easier to maintain,buy and sell here because of popularity. You will find it easier to find R1s headlight assembly,framesliders here compared to GS's tires.
If you want to resell, you will not get good deals on any practicle bikes.

That means if you want to ride a true motorcycle you need to buy one of the popular models so that it is easier to maintain.

But I would not call it a wastage. Even if it is ,scene is not similar across India also. I know many people in Bangalore and Chennai who do regular track days.They buy superbikes only for tracks.

People with superbikes in North India will be able to utilize them in a couple of years after F1 track is ready here.
I would take it further and say that the Japanese superbikes are ultra reliable and easier to maintain than say a Karizma or another Indian produced bike. Possibly cheaper as well, if you take the fuel and tyre costs out of the equation.

Eg. Oil filter for the 08 R1 in Yamaha - Rs. 560.
Oil filter for the R15 - Rs 600.

There's hardly anything that can/will go wrong on a modern contemporary superbike. Take that, and compare it with the flagship models of the two biggest Indian companies.. the Zma, and the 220. The Zma is a fantastic bike, but has funny niggles. The 220's reliability or the lack of it, need not be explained here.

Let me be clear, this is not a rant against Indian bike companies, but if absolute reliability, and quality of product needs to be considered, price notwithstanding, one need not look further than the superbikes.

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i would agree to most peoples comments here.

most people buy a litre bike to look cool.... its about handling as much as power . sportsbikes are made to go around corners on the edge of their tyre. hence the advances in suspension and the seerting and rake angle . if i see a brand new superbike with a flat spot in the centre of the trye and chicken strips that can feed a family then you can generally put them into the 'i like looking good' category . most people start off that way till they discover the real joy of riding in a corner at 80 k' over a straight at 200
@Csgup1: For the most part I agree with you. But I don't get this whole anti-chicken strip fad. Most of the street riding is done in straight lines and it's obvious that the middle is going to be flat on most, if not all these bikes. Classifying the rider according to this isn't fair.
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Eg. Oil filter for the 08 R1 in Yamaha - Rs. 560.
Oil filter for the R15 - Rs 600.
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Oil filter for the 15 costs Rs 430. However, I'm sure that the reliability and servicing needs of the 1 would be much better than that of say, a 15 or a 220. I also agree that the everyday niggles of the Indian makes doesn't help either; it deducts from the pleasure of unrestrained riding.

And with the sbk proliferation in India not too far (or so I hope ), the maintenance costs of these big ladies is only going down.
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