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David_smith2999 · 09-08-2009, 06:39 AM

Hi guys

Well My name is Sunny...
I live in sydney for sum temporary reasons n i m coming back to india for a while,,
I wanna import a used Yamaha YZF R1 to india

I live in Newdelhi by the way,,,

Thankx in advance for the guidence n help.

Lets make it simple:-
If I have a bike That is Yamaha YZF R1 used one and I bought it for $12000(Australia)
If I'll leave the bike there in india then:-
What will be the custom charges

What will be the transportation fee,paper work and other misc charges

Now If I'll come back to australia with the bike then:
How long has to be the papers on my name here in australia,,,
What will be the custom charges
What will be the transportation fee,paper work and other misc charges

Plz reply asap and give me a rough idea in numbers

thankx n Ihope things are much more clearer bcoz I wanna be in india asap.
Cheers

ken cool · 09-08-2009, 08:24 AM

Query Approved

If you have lived in a Oz for longer than 2 years (to my knowledge) you are allowed to import the bike to India on TR (Transfer of Residence) with 100% duty on the value of the bike evaluated by the customs officials at the moment of import. This is true only for bikes above 800cc. For bikes less than 800cc, you either have a penalty to pay or have your bike confiscated by customs!

I noticed that you said that you own an R6!

Streetfighter · 09-08-2009, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ken cool

Query Approved
This is true only for bikes above 800cc. For bikes less than 800cc, you either have a penalty to pay or have your bike confiscated by customs!

Ken, are you sure about this? If I'm not mistaken the 800cc + rule is only for new bikes and not used ones being brought on TR.

fireblah · 09-08-2009, 03:48 PM

Found out an article related to this...

What should you know about before importing a car/bike

With the number of Indians traveling and staying abroad these days, I think there should be more awareness about this.
Often it could be cheaper to import a bike on your own. It also gives more choices in both price and different bikes ..

nitrosatya · 09-08-2009, 05:10 PM

Actually even after paying 100% customs duty, the bike on TR will be cheaper than Indian price i think.

Haroon · 09-08-2009, 05:19 PM

Importing the bike permanently means that you have to go thru the whole procedure as explained in this thread. Yes, its a cumbersome process!

Bringing bikes to India

Importing in india, has anything changed??

However, if you want to bring it into India for TEMPORARY USE ONLY, then you are allowed to keep it in India for a maximum period of 6 months. But beware during these 6 months you can not leave the country without taking your bike with you. Visit the link below for more details:

EXEMPTION TO CERTAIN VEHICLES IMPORTED BY TOURISTS* UNDER TRIPTYQUE OR CARNET DE PASSAGE

For temporary import:
Air shipping one-way should cost you about US$ 1,000 to 1,500
Sea shipping will be marginally less.
In India the clearing charges (inbound) and forwarding charges (outbound) will total about Rs. 12,000-15,000

navpulsar150 · 09-08-2009, 06:15 PM

my bike is 2003 model pulsar 150, engine is getting over heated these days, no smoke- hope no bore problem. plz tell me what are the possble way of engine over heating, so that i can stop it.

David_smith2999 · 09-08-2009, 06:20 PM

Thankx for the above info guys ,,really appreciate that but bit confusing

@ Haroon

Here the thing I already stayed here in australia for more then 2 year,,,
and will be back in india for 45 days,,,,
Then:-
1) I already have a bike here that I'll be importing so Offcourse it will come under used bike...
1) How long has to be the bike papers on my name here in australia?
2) Custom charges are 100% on used one RIGHT? so when I'll be reaching the port ,,I'll be charged with complete custom charges that means 100% duty or not? and how they guys will be able to find out that how much is the bike worth so that they can put 100% duty on top of it...???????

3) Again what will be the export duty ?
4) When I'll be exporting my bike back to australia,,,The duty I'll be paying in the beginning will be refundable or not?
5) are any bike paper work charges there,,if yes then how much it will be??????
6) are there any hidden charges included?????
&) And finally If you riders know any consultant specialized in ATA CARNET thing Plz let me know...

Replys will be appreciated thankx,,cheers

Haroon · 09-08-2009, 07:07 PM

Sunny- Let me clarify a little more clearly.
There are only 2 scenarios for bringing your used bike into India

Scenario-1: You want to bring the bike to India, pay customs, clear it and register it in Delhi with a NEW number plate and the bike remains in Delhi for ever. End of story.

In this case, you must have owned it for atleast 2 years in Aus and have to declare a value for the bike in the shipping invoice. BUT, the customs guys have their own evaluation formula and will fix the dutiable value according to their calculation. (thanks to the net as well as their database, they have all the prices of new/used bikes in different countries). Every new bikes has a fixed value as per the customs database of international prices and customs tariffs are also fixed (not much room to play around), whereas for used bikes (depending on what you bribe the customs guy), he can self-evaluate the value for the bike saying its a damaged/accident bike etc (although in reality it is not damaged) and then he decides on the customs value to be paid by you. You pay customs & whatever other levies and take the bike home and next day take it to your RTO and register it with a Delhi license plate and the bike remains in India for ever.

Scenario-2
If I understand your situation correctly, you want to keep the bike in India for say 45 days ONLY. In this case, the link of Chennai customs which I gave you earlier, explains the details of the Temporary import/Carnet procedures. In this situation, firstly, you dont need to have a minimum period of ownership in Aus and secondly you DO NOT PAY ANY CUSTOMS and also you will continue to use your Australian license plate on the bike in India for 45 days. You will only pay for the clearance charges when you imported the bike plus the forwarding charges when you are exporting it back to Australia after 45 days. The total of both these would be approx Indian Rupees 12,000-15,000.

David_smith2999 · 09-09-2009, 02:51 PM

@ haroon

Just one thing to say about you that you are LEGEND mate....

one more thing to confim might,,,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haroon

However, if you want to bring it into India for TEMPORARY USE ONLY, then you are allowed to keep it in India for a maximum period of 6 months. But beware during these 6 months you can not leave the country without taking your bike with you.Visit the link below for more details:

EXEMPTION TO CERTAIN VEHICLES IMPORTED BY TOURISTS* UNDER TRIPTYQUE OR CARNET DE PASSAGE

BUt the website is saying that you can stay in india for one year??????????????

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haroon

you must have owned it for atleast 2 years in Aus and have to declare a value for the bike in the shipping invoice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ken cool

Query Approved

If you have lived in a Oz for longer than 2 years (to my knowledge) you are allowed to import the bike to India on TR (Transfer of Residence)

I m just a student here in australia not a permanent resisdent but sum of the consultant are saying that only who is transfering of his/her resident and staying in india for rest,,,, can import a bike...?????
but I'll be in n out in india so still m i be able to import my used bike and then leave it in india by completing the Scenario No. 1??????

If u know any consultant who I can trust on can u plz forward me the details
I have contacted more then 5 custom broker/agent, every one work n say his own way...

The above info was much more clearer and I really appreciate putting ur time in it...

Thankx and regards
Sunny

09-08-2009, 06:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
David_smith2999 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 5	Need help Plz Hi guys Well My name is Sunny... I live in sydney for sum temporary reasons n i m coming back to india for a while,, I wanna import a used Yamaha YZF R1 to india I live in Newdelhi by the way,,, Thankx in advance for the guidence n help. Lets make it simple:- If I have a bike That is Yamaha YZF R1 used one and I bought it for $12000(Australia) If I'll leave the bike there in india then:- What will be the custom charges What will be the transportation fee,paper work and other misc charges Now If I'll come back to australia with the bike then: How long has to be the papers on my name here in australia,,, What will be the custom charges What will be the transportation fee,paper work and other misc charges Plz reply asap and give me a rough idea in numbers thankx n Ihope things are much more clearer bcoz I wanna be in india asap. Cheers

09-08-2009, 08:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
ken cool Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 4,677	Query Approved If you have lived in a Oz for longer than 2 years (to my knowledge) you are allowed to import the bike to India on TR (Transfer of Residence) with 100% duty on the value of the bike evaluated by the customs officials at the moment of import. This is true only for bikes above 800cc. For bikes less than 800cc, you either have a penalty to pay or have your bike confiscated by customs! I noticed that you said that you own an R6! __________________ The Wheel was a great invention; Two Wheels with a Motor in between was even better! BMW Motorrad Days 2011 Xbhp's Indo-French Kashmir-Ladakh Tour

09-08-2009, 03:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
fireblah Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kolkata Posts: 753	Found out an article related to this... What should you know about before importing a car/bike With the number of Indians traveling and staying abroad these days, I think there should be more awareness about this. Often it could be cheaper to import a bike on your own. It also gives more choices in both price and different bikes .. __________________ May the torque be with you.. My first F1 @ Sepang

09-08-2009, 05:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
Haroon RIDE for PASSION Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalorean, but now in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Posts: 794	Importing the bike permanently means that you have to go thru the whole procedure as explained in this thread. Yes, its a cumbersome process! Bringing bikes to India Importing in india, has anything changed?? However, if you want to bring it into India for TEMPORARY USE ONLY, then you are allowed to keep it in India for a maximum period of 6 months. But beware during these 6 months you can not leave the country without taking your bike with you. Visit the link below for more details: EXEMPTION TO CERTAIN VEHICLES IMPORTED BY TOURISTS* UNDER TRIPTYQUE OR CARNET DE PASSAGE For temporary import: Air shipping one-way should cost you about US$ 1,000 to 1,500 Sea shipping will be marginally less. In India the clearing charges (inbound) and forwarding charges (outbound) will total about Rs. 12,000-15,000 __________________ Growing old is compulsory - growing up is optional *So many roads, So little time* RIDE for PASSION See us & our rides at: www.rideforpassion.com Last edited by Haroon; 09-08-2009 at 05:26 PM.

09-08-2009, 06:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
navpulsar150 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 10	engine over heating my bike is 2003 model pulsar 150, engine is getting over heated these days, no smoke- hope no bore problem. plz tell me what are the possble way of engine over heating, so that i can stop it.

09-08-2009, 05:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
nitrosatya Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Beijing,China Posts: 1,540	Actually even after paying 100% customs duty, the bike on TR will be cheaper than Indian price i think.

09-08-2009, 06:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
David_smith2999 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 5	Thankx for the above info guys ,,really appreciate that but bit confusing @ Haroon Here the thing I already stayed here in australia for more then 2 year,,, and will be back in india for 45 days,,,, Then:- 1) I already have a bike here that I'll be importing so Offcourse it will come under used bike... 1) How long has to be the bike papers on my name here in australia? 2) Custom charges are 100% on used one RIGHT? so when I'll be reaching the port ,,I'll be charged with complete custom charges that means 100% duty or not? and how they guys will be able to find out that how much is the bike worth so that they can put 100% duty on top of it...??????? 3) Again what will be the export duty ? 4) When I'll be exporting my bike back to australia,,,The duty I'll be paying in the beginning will be refundable or not? 5) are any bike paper work charges there,,if yes then how much it will be?????? 6) are there any hidden charges included????? &) And finally If you riders know any consultant specialized in ATA CARNET thing Plz let me know... Replys will be appreciated thankx,,cheers

09-08-2009, 07:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
Haroon RIDE for PASSION Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalorean, but now in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Posts: 794	Sunny- Let me clarify a little more clearly. There are only 2 scenarios for bringing your used bike into India Scenario-1: You want to bring the bike to India, pay customs, clear it and register it in Delhi with a NEW number plate and the bike remains in Delhi for ever. End of story. In this case, you must have owned it for atleast 2 years in Aus and have to declare a value for the bike in the shipping invoice. BUT, the customs guys have their own evaluation formula and will fix the dutiable value according to their calculation. (thanks to the net as well as their database, they have all the prices of new/used bikes in different countries). Every new bikes has a fixed value as per the customs database of international prices and customs tariffs are also fixed (not much room to play around), whereas for used bikes (depending on what you bribe the customs guy), he can self-evaluate the value for the bike saying its a damaged/accident bike etc (although in reality it is not damaged) and then he decides on the customs value to be paid by you. You pay customs & whatever other levies and take the bike home and next day take it to your RTO and register it with a Delhi license plate and the bike remains in India for ever. Scenario-2 If I understand your situation correctly, you want to keep the bike in India for say 45 days ONLY. In this case, the link of Chennai customs which I gave you earlier, explains the details of the Temporary import/Carnet procedures. In this situation, firstly, you dont need to have a minimum period of ownership in Aus and secondly you DO NOT PAY ANY CUSTOMS and also you will continue to use your Australian license plate on the bike in India for 45 days. You will only pay for the clearance charges when you imported the bike plus the forwarding charges when you are exporting it back to Australia after 45 days. The total of both these would be approx Indian Rupees 12,000-15,000. __________________ Growing old is compulsory - growing up is optional *So many roads, So little time* RIDE for PASSION See us & our rides at: www.rideforpassion.com Last edited by Haroon; 09-08-2009 at 07:13 PM.

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