[Photo Feature]: The Legend Remembered- (HRD)"Vincent Lightning S" - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

rennycornelius · 04-05-2010, 11:08 AM

Howard Raymond Davies, a young British flying officer, was shot down and captured by the Germans in 1917. To occupy himself during his seemingly endless hours in captivity, he dreamed of building the perfect motorcycle. Less than ten years later, in 1924, Davies and his partner E. J. Massey began building the HRD. These stylish, aerodynamic, JAP (J.A. Prestwitch Co.) powered machines were advanced for their era, incorporating features other manufactures were years from embracing, and set the standard for motorcycles throughout the 1930's. The motorcycle won the famous Isle Of Man TT in 1925, setting a speed record of 66.13 mph.
While Davies pursued his ambition, a schoolboy named Philip Vincent, was also dreaming about making his own motorcycle. Vincent took the first step in fulfilling his dream in 1928 when he left Cambridge University and, with backing from his family and their cattle ranching business, acquired the trademark, goodwill and few remaining HRD component parts for £500. The company was promptly named Vincent HRD Co., Ltd., and the logo appeared with Vincent in very small letters over the top of the bold HRD. The logo remained like this until late in 1949 when HRD was dropped in order to prevent confusion with Harley-Davidson in the increasingly important American Market.

By 1934, Vincent was making seven different models. Four of these used the first Vincent made 499cc single cylinder engine, the basic configuration of which never changed. The more than 20 models that were introduced between 1928 and 1934 gave Phil Vincent an ongoing opportunity to experiment with a myriad of new design features.
The legendary Phil Irving joined Vincent as chief engineer in 1931. The first Vincent HRD twin, given the name Rapide, was introduced in October 1936. It incorporated motorcycling's first fully suspended rear frame. Utilizing a triangular rear frame with springing under the seat, this feature was used on all Vincents produced from 1936 through 1955. In addition, Vincents bristled with innovations such as foot shift, 4-speed gearboxes and side stands. The 998cc, air-cooled V-Twin produced 45hp and achieved a top speed of 110 miles per hour. The Series A Rapide sold for around $600 and was the inspiration for the post-war big-twins. In its time, it had no peers. Phil Irving departed Vincent to work at Velocette in 1937, only to return to Vincent in 1943 to start plans for the Series A successor.

Unscathed by German bombing, Vincent was the first company to start producing motorcycles at the end of the war. For its return to civilian production after WW II, Vincent HRD offered the Series B Rapide, a 998cc V-twin. The Series B was a dramatically new motorcycle, shattering engineering concepts with its frameless or "monocoque" design. The front and rear suspension bolted directly to the oil tank which was concealed by an all-encompassing gas tank. Gone were all the external oil pipes that had caused Vincent engines to be dubbed by some "The Plumbers Nightmare." Being suspended from the oil tank, the engine appeared, by conventional standards, to be hanging in mid-air.

The Series B introduction greatly added to the Vincent's reputation and popularity. Twin carburetors and unusual forward-facing rear exhaust V-twin, gave Vincent-HRD an exciting, new identity among motorcycle manufacturers, one that did not go unnoticed in America.

Vincent dealerships began springing up in the US in 1944. The first opened in Philadelphia and was owned by Eugene Aucott. Soon after dealers opened in Florida, New Jersey, Michigan, California and Texas. The Vincent rush was on, not necessarily as a primary source of dealer income, but simply because the dealers liked the machine. Comparisons to America's Harley-Davidsons began at once, but there was, of course, no comparison. One Vincent that became known as the "Rumplecrankshaft," endured a 100,000-mile test without a single bearing failure.

Unfortunately, early gearbox problems cooled American enthusiasm. By 1953 a new shifter was designed but Vincent's reputation for problems could not be offset by the ease with which it could be repaired.
Vincent continued to develop other unique features such as a handlebar mounted brake adjuster. A hydraulic unit replaced twin springs and damper and the rear seat was supported by a sub-frame down to the rear frame pivot point, providing a fully spring seat with 6 inches of suspension. The rear wheel moved independently of the seat, resulting in a configuration that would be utilized on most motorcycles in the 1980's. The oil tank contained a check valve so the oil lines could be disconnected without loss of oil. Wiring could be disconnected by hand, the battery was held by a hand-spun wheel. It pioneered the "buddy seat", a novelty in 1946, but within a few years had almost completely replaced the mattress seat throughout the motorcycle industry. Screen oil and gas filters were a first, and all control levers were fully adjustable.The famous Black Shadow first built in 1948, was easily recognized by the all black finish of the engine and gearbox and the big 5-inch, 150 mph Smith speedometer. It could cruise at 100 mph per hour, and would top out at 125 mph. Based on the Rapide, internal engine components were polished and the gearshift mechanism was lightened.

It was with the introduction in 1948 of the fully race-prepared Vincent Black Lightning that Vincent emerged as the most legendary motorcycle of its time. The Black Lightning fired the imagination of motorcyclists the world over and was known as 'The World's Fastest Standard Motorcycle', a claim it could have made well into the seventies, nearly twenty years after it ceased production.

The Vincent Black Lightning was available as a custom order machine only and sold for around $1,500. Besides the absence of street equipment, a few chassis features set the Lightning apart from other street bikes. The magnesium alloy brake plates were both stiffer and lighter than standard steel plates, racing tires were mounted to light alloy rims, rear-set foot controls, a light weight solo seat and aluminum fenders all helped trim the Lightning's weight to 380 lb compared to the Shadow's 458 lb. Engine specifications varied, but were always based on selection and careful modification of standard parts along with fitting of higher performance equipment. Engine performance was rated at 70hp and the Black Lightning could reach 150 mph. Record has it that only 31 Black Lightnings were built, but in the hands of racers around the world, the Black Lightning did much to enhance the Vincent's growing performance legend.

In the summer of 1955, at a Vincent Owner's Club dinner, Phil Vincent announced that the company would not longer manufacture motorcycles. The board of Vincent had decided that the company could no longer function under the continued heavy losses and that production would cease almost immediately. Rather than abandon company tradition of uncompromised quality, it was decided to discontinue the complete range of Vincent motorcycles. The week before Christmas, 1955 the last of these ingenious machines came off the production line and was labeled "The Last." Phil Vincent promised that parts for his motorcycles would always be available. To this day, parts are made and sold worldwide by Harper Engineering, who bought the company out of receivership.
The gallant V-Twin is far from forgotten. The Vincent Owners Club is the largest single-brand club in the world. Vincents are today regarded as one of the most desirable, collectible classics in the world. A fully restored Black Lightning, or one maintained in original running condition, have been seen in the market for $125,000, that is about 100 times what it cost new. Many are still being ridden in speed events the world over and are enjoying a renaissance in the fast growing sport of classic and antique motorcycle competition.

The Vincent Dies:

In 1955 during an owners club dinner Philip Vincent announced that the company would cease to continue with the manufacture of the bikes due to heavy financial loses and the fact that Vincent would not compromise on the quality of their machines to bring the price down.
This being said it was in December 1955 that the last superior quality Vincent motorcycle sadly rolled off the production line. Philip Vincent promised that spares for the bikes would always be available and today parts are still made and sold all over the world by Harper Engineering.
Several remaining engines rescued from the dying Vincent plant were installed into a more modern design frame by Swiss business man Fritz Egli and the bikes were consequently called Egli-Vincents.
Several Norton race bikes also had a Vincent transplant and were referred to as Norvins. These "Frankenstein" bikes were more a novelty and didn't catch on. There can never be a compromise for the real thing.

The vincent returns:

It was in 1994 that a business man by the name of Bernard Li who with over 20 years experience in the automotive industry acquired the Vincent trademark. He then formed Vincent Motors which is based in San Diego, California, USA.

With the help of Roush Industries, four brand new prototype Vincent motorcycles were up and running powered by the New Honda Sports 1000cc engine

The new bikes are a clever mix of retro and modern styling principles, with carbon fibre petrol tanks, alluminium fenders, stylish fairing, LCD gauges, USD forks. a canti-lever mono-shock rear suspension incorporating multi-adjustable shocks and Brembo brakes.

A black tubular frame holds the engine in place and holds the engine oils as well. So the innovation continues.
Keeping with the legendary performance and thoroughbred heritage of the original Vincent Black Shadow motorbike, the new bikes are designed to state of the art top standards.

The new features of the Vincent Black Shadow include a large tubular monocoque single shock chassis, 130 horsepower 90° liquid cooled V-twin, inverted forks, forged calipers, tubeless spoke forged alloy wheels, carbon fiber bodywork, ultra-hi-performance, and exquisite craftsmanship.

The Vincent will be styled in a manner significantly reminiscent of its predecessors and in keeping with traditional British livery.

The price for one of these new Vincent Bikes will be around $20,000. That's quite cheap considering that Vincent Chairman Bernard Li set up the company for a mere 18 million dollars.
The Vincent Black Shadow has become part of motorcycle legend, noted for its strength, endurance and speed.
The new Vincent Black Shadow is up to date and ready to take the worlds motorcyclist fraternity by storm.
The Vincent Owners Club is the largest motorcycle club in the world. Today these bikes are the most sought after and collectable classics the world has ever seen. A fully restored lightning can command $125,000.

The Legend lives on...

Source:
www.vincentmotors.com
www.vincelewis.net

Aryan · 04-05-2010, 03:23 PM

Topic Approved.

chamu_666 · 08-05-2010, 09:34 AM

Look at the new design

yamdoot · 08-05-2010, 10:54 AM

One of my fav. classics.. Have a poster on my room wall for ten years.. love the V-TWIN config. and the rear mono.. The new Vincent looks great too.

kabeemer · 09-15-2010, 05:38 PM

As of the latest..
Last year Bernard Li died in a motorcycle crash at San Diego, and the remaing 4 prototypes are for sale... seems like Li family trying to sell Vincet rights.

At this year's Isle of Man TT, there was a classic parade with many old machines not seen in a long time, among those participating was this odd motorcycle, a Honda Mugen MRV1000. A quick look shows a strong British influence with an engine style reminiscent of an old Vincent, but what the heck is a Mugen MRV1000?

From the little information available, it seems Hirotoshi Honda, son of Honda founder, Soichiro Honda, founded a company by the name of Mugen in 1973. The company built Honda based racing engines and has evidently been pretty successful, but Hirotoshi is a Brit bike enthusiast and wanted to build something along the lines of a Vincent

The MRV1000 was an attempt to create a limited production street bike with a 4 valve, twin carb, 1000cc V-Twin. After they built it they realized it would cost far too much to be marketable and this prototype is the one and only of its kind.

Honda Mugen MRV1000 engine

Link: Club Honda Classic

Honda Mugen MRV1000 rear wheel detail

Here is the link:
http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/08/02/honda-mugen-mrv-1000/

04-05-2010, 11:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
rennycornelius . Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Indore Posts: 2,934	The Legend Remembered- (HRD)"Vincent Lightning S" Howard Raymond Davies, a young British flying officer, was shot down and captured by the Germans in 1917. To occupy himself during his seemingly endless hours in captivity, he dreamed of building the perfect motorcycle. Less than ten years later, in 1924, Davies and his partner E. J. Massey began building the HRD. These stylish, aerodynamic, JAP (J.A. Prestwitch Co.) powered machines were advanced for their era, incorporating features other manufactures were years from embracing, and set the standard for motorcycles throughout the 1930's. The motorcycle won the famous Isle Of Man TT in 1925, setting a speed record of 66.13 mph. While Davies pursued his ambition, a schoolboy named Philip Vincent, was also dreaming about making his own motorcycle. Vincent took the first step in fulfilling his dream in 1928 when he left Cambridge University and, with backing from his family and their cattle ranching business, acquired the trademark, goodwill and few remaining HRD component parts for £500. The company was promptly named Vincent HRD Co., Ltd., and the logo appeared with Vincent in very small letters over the top of the bold HRD. The logo remained like this until late in 1949 when HRD was dropped in order to prevent confusion with Harley-Davidson in the increasingly important American Market. By 1934, Vincent was making seven different models. Four of these used the first Vincent made 499cc single cylinder engine, the basic configuration of which never changed. The more than 20 models that were introduced between 1928 and 1934 gave Phil Vincent an ongoing opportunity to experiment with a myriad of new design features. The legendary Phil Irving joined Vincent as chief engineer in 1931. The first Vincent HRD twin, given the name Rapide, was introduced in October 1936. It incorporated motorcycling's first fully suspended rear frame. Utilizing a triangular rear frame with springing under the seat, this feature was used on all Vincents produced from 1936 through 1955. In addition, Vincents bristled with innovations such as foot shift, 4-speed gearboxes and side stands. The 998cc, air-cooled V-Twin produced 45hp and achieved a top speed of 110 miles per hour. The Series A Rapide sold for around $600 and was the inspiration for the post-war big-twins. In its time, it had no peers. Phil Irving departed Vincent to work at Velocette in 1937, only to return to Vincent in 1943 to start plans for the Series A successor. Unscathed by German bombing, Vincent was the first company to start producing motorcycles at the end of the war. For its return to civilian production after WW II, Vincent HRD offered the Series B Rapide, a 998cc V-twin. The Series B was a dramatically new motorcycle, shattering engineering concepts with its frameless or "monocoque" design. The front and rear suspension bolted directly to the oil tank which was concealed by an all-encompassing gas tank. Gone were all the external oil pipes that had caused Vincent engines to be dubbed by some "The Plumbers Nightmare." Being suspended from the oil tank, the engine appeared, by conventional standards, to be hanging in mid-air. The Series B introduction greatly added to the Vincent's reputation and popularity. Twin carburetors and unusual forward-facing rear exhaust V-twin, gave Vincent-HRD an exciting, new identity among motorcycle manufacturers, one that did not go unnoticed in America. Vincent dealerships began springing up in the US in 1944. The first opened in Philadelphia and was owned by Eugene Aucott. Soon after dealers opened in Florida, New Jersey, Michigan, California and Texas. The Vincent rush was on, not necessarily as a primary source of dealer income, but simply because the dealers liked the machine. Comparisons to America's Harley-Davidsons began at once, but there was, of course, no comparison. One Vincent that became known as the "Rumplecrankshaft," endured a 100,000-mile test without a single bearing failure. Unfortunately, early gearbox problems cooled American enthusiasm. By 1953 a new shifter was designed but Vincent's reputation for problems could not be offset by the ease with which it could be repaired. Vincent continued to develop other unique features such as a handlebar mounted brake adjuster. A hydraulic unit replaced twin springs and damper and the rear seat was supported by a sub-frame down to the rear frame pivot point, providing a fully spring seat with 6 inches of suspension. The rear wheel moved independently of the seat, resulting in a configuration that would be utilized on most motorcycles in the 1980's. The oil tank contained a check valve so the oil lines could be disconnected without loss of oil. Wiring could be disconnected by hand, the battery was held by a hand-spun wheel. It pioneered the "buddy seat", a novelty in 1946, but within a few years had almost completely replaced the mattress seat throughout the motorcycle industry. Screen oil and gas filters were a first, and all control levers were fully adjustable.The famous Black Shadow first built in 1948, was easily recognized by the all black finish of the engine and gearbox and the big 5-inch, 150 mph Smith speedometer. It could cruise at 100 mph per hour, and would top out at 125 mph. Based on the Rapide, internal engine components were polished and the gearshift mechanism was lightened. It was with the introduction in 1948 of the fully race-prepared Vincent Black Lightning that Vincent emerged as the most legendary motorcycle of its time. The Black Lightning fired the imagination of motorcyclists the world over and was known as 'The World's Fastest Standard Motorcycle', a claim it could have made well into the seventies, nearly twenty years after it ceased production. The Vincent Black Lightning was available as a custom order machine only and sold for around $1,500. Besides the absence of street equipment, a few chassis features set the Lightning apart from other street bikes. The magnesium alloy brake plates were both stiffer and lighter than standard steel plates, racing tires were mounted to light alloy rims, rear-set foot controls, a light weight solo seat and aluminum fenders all helped trim the Lightning's weight to 380 lb compared to the Shadow's 458 lb. Engine specifications varied, but were always based on selection and careful modification of standard parts along with fitting of higher performance equipment. Engine performance was rated at 70hp and the Black Lightning could reach 150 mph. Record has it that only 31 Black Lightnings were built, but in the hands of racers around the world, the Black Lightning did much to enhance the Vincent's growing performance legend. In the summer of 1955, at a Vincent Owner's Club dinner, Phil Vincent announced that the company would not longer manufacture motorcycles. The board of Vincent had decided that the company could no longer function under the continued heavy losses and that production would cease almost immediately. Rather than abandon company tradition of uncompromised quality, it was decided to discontinue the complete range of Vincent motorcycles. The week before Christmas, 1955 the last of these ingenious machines came off the production line and was labeled "The Last." Phil Vincent promised that parts for his motorcycles would always be available. To this day, parts are made and sold worldwide by Harper Engineering, who bought the company out of receivership. The gallant V-Twin is far from forgotten. The Vincent Owners Club is the largest single-brand club in the world. Vincents are today regarded as one of the most desirable, collectible classics in the world. A fully restored Black Lightning, or one maintained in original running condition, have been seen in the market for $125,000, that is about 100 times what it cost new. Many are still being ridden in speed events the world over and are enjoying a renaissance in the fast growing sport of classic and antique motorcycle competition. The Vincent Dies: In 1955 during an owners club dinner Philip Vincent announced that the company would cease to continue with the manufacture of the bikes due to heavy financial loses and the fact that Vincent would not compromise on the quality of their machines to bring the price down. This being said it was in December 1955 that the last superior quality Vincent motorcycle sadly rolled off the production line. Philip Vincent promised that spares for the bikes would always be available and today parts are still made and sold all over the world by Harper Engineering. Several remaining engines rescued from the dying Vincent plant were installed into a more modern design frame by Swiss business man Fritz Egli and the bikes were consequently called Egli-Vincents. Several Norton race bikes also had a Vincent transplant and were referred to as Norvins. These "Frankenstein" bikes were more a novelty and didn't catch on. There can never be a compromise for the real thing. The vincent returns: It was in 1994 that a business man by the name of Bernard Li who with over 20 years experience in the automotive industry acquired the Vincent trademark. He then formed Vincent Motors which is based in San Diego, California, USA. With the help of Roush Industries, four brand new prototype Vincent motorcycles were up and running powered by the New Honda Sports 1000cc engine The new bikes are a clever mix of retro and modern styling principles, with carbon fibre petrol tanks, alluminium fenders, stylish fairing, LCD gauges, USD forks. a canti-lever mono-shock rear suspension incorporating multi-adjustable shocks and Brembo brakes. A black tubular frame holds the engine in place and holds the engine oils as well. So the innovation continues. Keeping with the legendary performance and thoroughbred heritage of the original Vincent Black Shadow motorbike, the new bikes are designed to state of the art top standards. The new features of the Vincent Black Shadow include a large tubular monocoque single shock chassis, 130 horsepower 90° liquid cooled V-twin, inverted forks, forged calipers, tubeless spoke forged alloy wheels, carbon fiber bodywork, ultra-hi-performance, and exquisite craftsmanship. The Vincent will be styled in a manner significantly reminiscent of its predecessors and in keeping with traditional British livery. The price for one of these new Vincent Bikes will be around $20,000. That's quite cheap considering that Vincent Chairman Bernard Li set up the company for a mere 18 million dollars. The Vincent Black Shadow has become part of motorcycle legend, noted for its strength, endurance and speed. The new Vincent Black Shadow is up to date and ready to take the worlds motorcyclist fraternity by storm. The Vincent Owners Club is the largest motorcycle club in the world. Today these bikes are the most sought after and collectable classics the world has ever seen. A fully restored lightning can command $125,000. The Legend lives on... Source: www.vincentmotors.com www.vincelewis.net __________________ The Magician"

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yamdoot Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Indore/ Mumbai, India. Posts: 918	One of my fav. classics.. Have a poster on my room wall for ten years.. love the V-TWIN config. and the rear mono.. The new Vincent looks great too. __________________ 1985 Yamaha RD350 HT 1989 Race winner Ki-Honda 110 1994 Suzuki Shogun Rally prep. 1997 Yamaha RXG stock 2008 Yamaha FZ No Cams, No Valves, No Headaches.

09-15-2010, 05:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
kabeemer Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kuwait Posts: 15	As of the latest.. Last year Bernard Li died in a motorcycle crash at San Diego, and the remaing 4 prototypes are for sale... seems like Li family trying to sell Vincet rights. At this year's Isle of Man TT, there was a classic parade with many old machines not seen in a long time, among those participating was this odd motorcycle, a Honda Mugen MRV1000. A quick look shows a strong British influence with an engine style reminiscent of an old Vincent, but what the heck is a Mugen MRV1000? From the little information available, it seems Hirotoshi Honda, son of Honda founder, Soichiro Honda, founded a company by the name of Mugen in 1973. The company built Honda based racing engines and has evidently been pretty successful, but Hirotoshi is a Brit bike enthusiast and wanted to build something along the lines of a Vincent The MRV1000 was an attempt to create a limited production street bike with a 4 valve, twin carb, 1000cc V-Twin. After they built it they realized it would cost far too much to be marketable and this prototype is the one and only of its kind. Honda Mugen MRV1000 engine Link: Club Honda Classic Honda Mugen MRV1000 rear wheel detail Here is the link: http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/08/02/honda-mugen-mrv-1000/ Last edited by kabeemer; 09-15-2010 at 05:52 PM.

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