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atul_astro · 04-07-2009, 01:05 PM

The best oil to use the Motul 800 2T [single ester/double ester]

Yamalube is nothing but Motul Motoman semi synthetic oil

For stock bikes, synthetic oil cant do much except reduce carbon builup..but then again that depends on ur fuel type and state of tune...I personally use MAK 2t on my stock RX [done 26,000 kms in the last year] without any excess wear.

For the drag bike I use only 800 2T..I cant trust any other oil for the kinda revs she's pulling

I personally feel you need synthetic oil only if you're on a high revving chambered setup.. By high reviing I mean 8500 rpm..I knew a guy who'd put 800 2T on his stock 4 speed..It was really stupid

Bladerunner · 04-07-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

Jet X Difficult to find?

Thats the easiest to find oil here! I don't think its a very good oil (considering its premium price)... also it dosen't seem to burn too clean - gives out fair amount of visible smoke.

The best oil should be Motul's fully synth 2T. But its damn costly. Other good option should be Shell 2T - have heard good things about it. Also saw Gulf 2T very recently... might be good, considering their new 4 stroke oil is really good. Not tried it myself though.

How much does Jettx cost in Pune? All the dealers here tell me that its been discontinued and whatever is avalable is '07 manufactured.

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Originally Posted by HydBiker

Yamalube 2T engine oil is made by Shell. The gear box oil is by Exxon Mobil.

Got Gulf 2T (semi synth) oil pouches for my father's Chetak... he it is better than Castrol he was using

And each pouch was Rs 6 as against 8 or 9 for Castrol.

Some RX100 users have given good feedback on Yamalube and Petronas. Again, as usual, expect the Motul's to be very good

Yamalube 2T is made by Exxon Mobil as well. Its what I'm using right now. If look carefully at the pictures you will see it.

HydBiker · 04-07-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladerunner

Yamalube 2T is made by Exxon Mobil as well. Its what I'm using right now. If look carefully at the pictures you will see it.

Indeed... so, did I mix up things (between the gear box oil & engine oil) or does Yamaha procure from more than one vendor???

Raccoon · 04-07-2009, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atul_astro

The best oil to use the Motul 800 2T [single ester/double ester]

Yamalube is nothing but Motul Motoman semi synthetic oil

For stock bikes, synthetic oil cant do much except reduce carbon builup..but then again that depends on ur fuel type and state of tune...I personally use MAK 2t on my stock RX [done 26,000 kms in the last year] without any excess wear.

For the drag bike I use only 800 2T..I cant trust any other oil for the kinda revs she's pulling

I personally feel you need synthetic oil only if you're on a high revving chambered setup.. By high reviing I mean 8500 rpm..I knew a guy who'd put 800 2T on his stock 4 speed..It was really stupid

I wouldn't say its exactly stupid. The Easter thingy will burn very clean compared to minerals. And this will prevent carbon build up. Carbon build up means decarb by savage service centre people by opening up the cylinder and all (unless you gonna do it yourself). If you want to avoid opening it up, it makes a HUGE sense. Only problem is its just too expensive.

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Originally Posted by Bladerunner

How much does Jettx cost in Pune? All the dealers here tell me that its been discontinued and whatever is avalable is '07 manufactured.

As far as I remember it was about Rs. 115. Can confirm when I'm home. Mfd date was around mid 2008... so slightly older stock. The dealer said the latest stock is priced a bit higher. Its definitely not discontinued. But its really nothing to rave about. You'd prolly be better off using Shell/Gulf/etc... and they are cheaper!

Bladerunner · 04-07-2009, 01:31 PM

Let me list some of the better oils discussed here and their prices per liter. I'll add more as I find the prices.

1. Motul 800 - Rs.780
2. Petronas Sprinta 5000 - Rs.325
3. Petronas Sprinta 4000 - Rs.260
4. Yamalube - Rs.203
5. Castrol Jettx - Rs.200
6. Motul Motomix - Rs.195

Raccoon · 04-07-2009, 01:33 PM

Please mention if thats per litre or per 500 ml.

Price of Jet X is not correct... dunno about others.

psycho 98 · 04-07-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

^^^I would never mix oils like that!

Better let one thing do its job!

There's no harm in doing it, its a very old method i think you have not visited RDD. hence you are saying

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

Shell makes more than one type of 2T oil?? I'v only seen the white bottle... and thats the only 1 mentioned on their website also.

Forget the website if there's a shell bunk in your city kindly visit you will come to know.

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

Never seen Elf 2t anywhere... not even heard. Is it easily available in your city?

It comes in white can with blue label on it, ya its easily available here.

Bladerunner · 04-07-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

Please mention if thats per litre or per 500 ml.

Price of Jet X is not correct... dunno about others.

Read my post carefully, I've mentioned its per liter. The Jettx price is correct as per the '07 stock I usually buy. I just recently bought 2 bottles of 500ml for Rs.105 each as he had run out of the 1L bottles. Let me know if you find out the current price.

I have emailed Castrol India. Lets see what they have to say about the Jettx stock.

psycho 98 · 04-07-2009, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raccoon

I wouldn't say its exactly stupid. The Easter thingy will burn very clean compared to minerals. And this will prevent carbon build up. Carbon build up means decarb by savage service centre people by opening up the cylinder and all (unless you gonna do it yourself). If you want to avoid opening it up, it makes a HUGE sense. Only problem is its just too expensive.

Motul 800 is not recommended for city usage dude, untill and unles you have deep pockets, the 800 is quite recmmonded for big bore, ported setup's with chambers were the revving nature of the engine is say 9 to 12k rpm and where the engine is producing more heat than the stock set up. also why would one do deacarb you know what with more carbon you get more compression.

Raccoon · 04-07-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by psycho 98

Forget the website if there's a shell bunk in your city kindly visit you will come to know.

Have done that. They only had the white bottle. No other 2t oil.

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Originally Posted by Bladerunner

I have emailed Castrol India. Lets see what they have to say about the Jettx stock.

Castrol dosen't seem to be bothered about emails. They have never replied to any of mine. No follow up from the call centre too. Very unresponsive company.

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Originally Posted by psycho 98

Motul 800 is not recommended for city usage dude, untill and unles you have deep pockets, the 800 is quite recmmonded for big bore, ported setup's with chambers were the revving nature of the engine is say 9 to 12k rpm and where the engine is producing more heat than the stock set up. also why would one do deacarb you know what with more carbon you get more compression.

Still, no harm at all in using it, if you can afford it. As for the carbon part, that may be true around the head... but what about the port and the exhaust system and all? Carbon there means reduced performance, for sure. Also, I wasn't just reffering to city use... but also highway use. And if you are doing high speed with a pillion in the summer, the engine heat itself can be a big issue.

04-07-2009, 01:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
atul_astro League Apart Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Andheri [E] Mumbai Posts: 384	The best oil to use the Motul 800 2T [single ester/double ester] Yamalube is nothing but Motul Motoman semi synthetic oil For stock bikes, synthetic oil cant do much except reduce carbon builup..but then again that depends on ur fuel type and state of tune...I personally use MAK 2t on my stock RX [done 26,000 kms in the last year] without any excess wear. For the drag bike I use only 800 2T..I cant trust any other oil for the kinda revs she's pulling I personally feel you need synthetic oil only if you're on a high revving chambered setup.. By high reviing I mean 8500 rpm..I knew a guy who'd put 800 2T on his stock 4 speed..It was really stupid __________________ 83' RD350 HT 96' RXG 97' RXZ 91'RX100>09'RX165 2010' HH ZMR

04-07-2009, 01:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bladerunner Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 480	Let me list some of the better oils discussed here and their prices per liter. I'll add more as I find the prices. 1. Motul 800 - Rs.780 2. Petronas Sprinta 5000 - Rs.325 3. Petronas Sprinta 4000 - Rs.260 4. Yamalube - Rs.203 5. Castrol Jettx - Rs.200 6. Motul Motomix - Rs.195 Last edited by Bladerunner; 04-17-2009 at 11:15 PM.

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