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    Try Didar Honda Egmore, or Anna salai, for a test ride of the CBR250.

    Most guys here will agree the CBR 250 scores above any RE by virtue of its reliability alone.

    Tubeless tyres, more mileage of 30-45 kmpl on highway, and higher cruising speed of 120-140 kmph made me choose the CBR. The stability at high speeds is another cool thing sport bikes can give you.

    My CBR has done 32k kms, and hasn't left me stranded. The only blotch on the record is a CCT change at 25k kms, which costs ₹500, and takes 10 minutes to fix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fullmoon View Post




    thanks rug for your suggestion with clear detail. getting a test ride with cbr 250r is difficult, as i have tried with two dealers saying test ride not available.

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    man, same thoughts.had it not for low cruising speeed (350 std - 60 km/hour and bullet 500 - 80 km/hour) i would have gone for this. still in a dilemma to reduce my speed requirement to go for this. hehe... but i know i would regret because i rode Pulsar 220 in high speeds.If you want to spend sometime in scenic areas,you need to compensate it with some higher speed in open highways.i am not getting test ride here for cbr250r. i think i need to try with each & every dealer in chennai for test ride.
    You are welcome, and yes even at the time i was about to buy a bike CBR250R was not easily available for test ride, but finally one shop did offer me a test ride.

    And you got the second part right too, that you need to have some speed ready in your bike when touring is the purpose, only the difference is both, 350cc as well as 500cc versions of RE can hold the same speed, no difference there. 80-90 Kmph is its territory. But whatever the difference, its still not up to the mark of 3 digit speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leech View Post
    Try Didar Honda Egmore, or Anna salai, for a test ride of the CBR250.

    Most guys here will agree the CBR 250 scores above any RE by virtue of its reliability alone.

    Tubeless tyres, more mileage of 30-45 kmpl on highway, and higher cruising speed of 120-140 kmph made me choose the CBR. The stability at high speeds is another cool thing sport bikes can give you.

    My CBR has done 32k kms, and hasn't left me stranded. The only blotch on the record is a CCT change at 25k kms, which costs ₹500, and takes 10 minutes to fix.
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    You are welcome, and yes even at the time i was about to buy a bike CBR250R was not easily available for test ride, but finally one shop did offer me a test ride.

    And you got the second part right too, that you need to have some speed ready in your bike when touring is the purpose, only the difference is both, 350cc as well as 500cc versions of RE can hold the same speed, no difference there. 80-90 Kmph is its territory. But whatever the difference, its still not up to the mark of 3 digit speed.
    @ leech.. thanks for cbr 250 r test ride info. i would try for sure. @rugved..yes, i can't do triple digits in these continuously, but still one user in my area who has 10000 km odo on his bullet 500 says he ride at 100-120 km/hr speedsfrom chennai to nagercoil without any fuss. Really now a days, more bullet owners boasting such speeds, i don't know whether to believe it or not.

    friends, what about adding suzuki gixxer sf, Hero karizma zmr to this list? would these suit my requirements. Kindly give your inputs.
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    Rohan12, you rode just 900 kms and now a fan of RE? That's cute. You will have to ride atleast 20-30 k kms, my friend, to find out the problems, if any, exist on any bike.

    Now, as to power requirements on highways, sure the Bullets are enough. For some. For others, what matters more is the stability at speed, the agility of the motorcycle and the reliability.

    Just imagine, you maintain your vehicle to the best of your ability, when the exhaust pipe suddenly falls off. Oil starts leaking. Or you get a puncture, and the nearest Bullet mech is 20kms away. What do you say then? Bike's got character? Real men ride Bullets? That's a hilarious quote for a vehicle which any fool with ₹2 lakhs can buy.

    No doubt the Bullet 500 will continue to be sold long after the CBR 250 gets discontinued, but the point is, the CBR is much more practical than any Bullet on the highway. Only once you've riden the bike at 155 kmph will you realise this. Only once you see CBR 250 with 3-4 punctures still doing 120 kmph on the highway, while the man's bike is stuck on the roadside will you realise this.

    Times change, and so does technology. What used to be the top bike in India, is now an outdated relic which only survived due to upgrades and improvements by Siddhartha Lal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullmoon View Post
    @ leech.. thanks for cbr 250 r test ride info. i would try for sure. @rugved..yes, i can't do triple digits in these continuously, but still one user in my area who has 10000 km odo on his bullet 500 says he ride at 100-120 km/hr speedsfrom chennai to nagercoil without any fuss. Really now a days, more bullet owners boasting such speeds, i don't know whether to believe it or not.

    friends, what about adding suzuki gixxer sf, Hero karizma zmr to this list? would these suit my requirements. Kindly give your inputs.
    120 is possible. I have witnessed Desert Storm doing so All the way from Pune to Miraj...BUT, Believe me, its not a speed range where engine will be relaxed and stress free. also can't think of holding such speed all day long without taking breaks to let the engine cool down, as well as not sufficient braking power to stop a 200Kg Royal enfield within safe duration doing 120 Kmph.

    Its All THESE factors that determine safe cruising speed, and not just the engine
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    Most highways have 80 kmph speed limits for cars, with even less limits for bikes. The problem is people : once you do 100, you wanna do 150. After 150, you wanna see how 200 feels like. You've ridden a HD 750 at 185 kmph, now do the same on a sports bike or a sports tourer. You'll feel the difference. The difference is in stability, acceleration and braking. That's what's needed on Indian roads: anticipation, evasion, and acceleration.

    All said and done, there's plenty of choices nowadays, unlike in the 90's and 2000's. With even scooters doing Ladakh and Leh, pushing one particular bike as the best is childish, and ignorant.

    I have a soft spot for the silver bullet 500, but the allure of acceleration got me the CBR 250, a bike with more mileage, more control and 2-3 secs better 0-100 kmph. Most people, especially in rural areas, don't even know the CBR 250 exists. For them, a bike is a lifestyle, a ego boost.
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    Why we are not considering KTM Duke 390 MY2017. At least from picture i looks amazing. Only problem will be 13 Ltr petrol tank but still you get 200 km range which is good for Indian Highway. Plus it has reliable engine, Niggle free(User can contribute more for this). But only thing is we may have to wait for few more months before it is launched. I am also eagerly waiting for it to upgrade from my current Apache 180 ABS. Baby CBR does appeal me currently, but I have decided to wait till Duke390 MY2017 gets launched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leech View Post

    I have a soft spot for the silver bullet 500, but the allure of acceleration got me the CBR 250, a bike with more mileage, more control and 2-3 secs better 0-100 kmph. Most people, especially in rural areas, don't even know the CBR 250 exists. For them, a bike is a lifestyle, a ego boost.
    Quote Originally Posted by nIL2w View Post
    Why we are not considering KTM Duke 390 MY2017. At least from picture i looks amazing. Only problem will be 13 Ltr petrol tank but still you get 200 km range which is good for Indian Highway. .
    Quote Originally Posted by Rohan12 View Post
    Well good for you , well you are going from slow to fast - 500 to 250 / myself going from fast to slow - RS200/KTM200 to RE 350
    @leech - at top gear,what rpm one can cruise at 100 km/hr on cbr 250r for hours? @nIL2w - I heard Duke 390 gives 30 km per litre fuel efficiency at 100 -110 km/hr speeds. Moreover tell me at top gear what rpm duke 390 reaches & stay at 100 km/hour for hours? RE 350? hey do you mean RE Standard 350 UCE? @Rohan12 - at top gear what rpm your Pulsar RS 200 can ride at 100 km/hr?

    Friends,My questions above may look silly. The reason is i have explored my pulsar 220 till 130 km/hr for a short stretch in highway. But eventhough I am young(age-34), I do feel staying at edge or even riding at more than 9000 rpm for hours would be mentally tiring.Any bike which suit almost all my requirements i have stated at first would be fine. Kindly suggest me bikes which can reach & stay at 100 km/hr for hours at rpm less than 8000 rpm in top gear..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rohan12 View Post
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    I want to ask something to you in case of RE problems :-

    1. You are saying that you had bitter problems - can you say what/identify ? - that might help others to rectify and also help to me so that I might prevent them in future.
    Constant tappet adjustment, every 2K kms. Oil leaks, brakes are generations behind the current scenario, tube tyres are a pain to fix in case of a puncture, vibrations even put tractors to shame, low cruising speed which is a high risk for highway runs, not pocket friendly because of atleast two services a month and the hilarious prices quoted by parts dealers.

    2. You are saying about oil leakage - is it the new UCE or the AVL engine - mine 350 TB UCE does not have any oil leakage #even though I do the service by my own and still did not see any oil leakage ~ km done till now 900 km .
    I owned a 1982 CI, a 1994 AVL and my brother owned a 2014 UCE. You might be a lucky chap to have not had any oil leakage problems! I service the bikes by myself too, and I'd put around 1,75,000 kms on both my bikes. And the SVC's across the country for Enfield stinks in terms of after sales service and everything else inbetween.

    On the other hand you are saying that 250r is a mile muncher - robust built - can take lot of abuse - has enough power for highway numerous SVC and fairly pocket friendly when comes to maintenance - Isn't RE TB 350/500 ?(bigger tank) I am not including other RE .
    I don't understand the point here, so you're saying bigger the tank, the better mile muncher? Does that mean lorries are better mile munchers than any vehicle on the road? Since they carry around 200ltrs of diesel?

    I mean it has a 550-600 km range of petrol / iron built / if you love beating/kicking your bike then RE is the best 1 kick and punch and you are in heaven / 19.8 bhp for 350 and 27.2 bhp for 500 isn't that good(not best) for highway / local SVC and DIY is the best for RE
    (Iron built means heavier, which in turn reduces the cruising capability significantly when ridden without stressing the engine, one kick and punch? Are we still talking about bikes here? I've been doing all services on my CBR since purchase, including throttle body cleaning and timing chain adjustments, only big jobs like shim replacement or clutch replacement are done by the SVC, so again, it all depends upon the owners interest, any job is doable as long as you are willing to.)

    - which can't be in case of 250 / and about pocket friendly - any bike from 50cc to 2000 cc if maintained well is pocket friendly
    Please do some research to back up your facts, we also own a Harley Iron 883. Your above point is just plain blind.

    ` correct me if I am wrong / and about the ancient technology you are saying which is 100 % true but don't we all love RE and if there is any problem with the ANCIENT technology then I hope 350/500 wont be on sale ~ Right ?
    RE has a cult value in India very similar to what Surf Excel has. RE tech has not moved past the 1900's (do a little research on their engine construction and how it has evolved) The 350/500 are still on sale because people still buy it. The Conti and the Himalayan are however leagues ahead of the TB or any other product in the RE lineup. BTW, have you heard of "liquid cooled engines"? Just give it a look.

    / and in case of break down " abe yeah bullte hain koi servicing ki zarurat nahin hain " if it is the moto of people then my friend even HH Splendor will break down too / and about Continental GT - It is a cafe racer not a tourer - which people tend to forget .. If anyone wants a touring motorcycle from RE department , they have already made TB series.
    This i agree, the Continental is in no way a tourer in stock form, however with handle bar mods and a bash plate, makes a good tourer. On the breakdown aspect, first of all, why would i want my bike to break down? Do you even want me to get started on RE's inherent electrical issues? Please, again, do some research before stating facts that might seem very true to you.

    Sorry it might sound that I am a RE fan ~ well yes , I myself have 350 TB ~ so it is my curiosity to know why you have not included TB in here . But please correct me if I am wrong in any sentences/words as I am always a learner !
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    Now, my intention was not to start a brand war, but you seem fairly new to biking and the TB. I've experienced almost all of the RE prducts and even the Conti, which is the best built bike in their lineup has issues. My point is, why invest in something that's going to be sitting half the time in the SVC, that will take you slower, and leave your hands and feet numb at the end of the day, when you can invest in something that takes you from A to B, in comfort, without vibrations and probably will outlast you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nIL2w View Post
    Why we are not considering KTM Duke 390 MY2017. At least from picture i looks amazing. Only problem will be 13 Ltr petrol tank but still you get 200 km range which is good for Indian Highway. Plus it has reliable engine, Niggle free(User can contribute more for this). But only thing is we may have to wait for few more months before it is launched. I am also eagerly waiting for it to upgrade from my current Apache 180 ABS. Baby CBR does appeal me currently, but I have decided to wait till Duke390 MY2017 gets launched.
    I'd ask you to wait till the third batch at least. So KTM can work out any niggles in the first batches. No doubt the Duke is a very capable machine, but the quality of parts used somewhat leaves a sour aftertaste. We've seen 390's do Raid de Himalaya, so no doubt about their tolerance to abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Niranjan Paul View Post
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    Now, my intention was not to start a brand war, but you seem fairly new to biking and the TB. I've experienced almost all of the RE prducts and even the Conti, which is the best built bike in their lineup has issues. My point is, why invest in something that's going to be sitting half the time in the SVC, that will take you slower, and leave your hands and feet numb at the end of the day, when you can invest in something that takes you from A to B, in comfort, without vibrations and probably will outlast you?

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    I'd ask you to wait till the third batch at least. So KTM can work out any niggles in the first batches. No doubt the Duke is a very capable machine, but the quality of parts used somewhat leaves a sour aftertaste. We've seen 390's do Raid de Himalaya, so no doubt about their tolerance to abuse.
    @nIL2w & @Jon Niranjan Paul, hi both of you don't feel bad. I started this thread to receive suggestion for my queries to buy a suitable ride for touring. Please do help me & avoid any other discussion here...
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