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    Hey guys!

    I am looking to buy a scooter in the coming two months and am torn between the Access 125 and the Activa 125 (BS-IV). A little history first - I have owned a 2009 spec Honda Activa for about 6 years before selling it in 2015. The scooter was perfect, and after having driver over 50,000 kms, I faced very few problems. Currently, I own a 2011 spec TVS Wego - which has covered about 26000 kms but given me twice as many problems as the Activa ever did - because of this, I have generally given up on TVS as a brand (Good idea?)

    One of the main reasons I am inclined towards the Activa 125 is because I trust honda for delivering a top-notch scooter which will not be plagued with problems over the coming years. I usually travel around 150 kms a week, and with that running, I really do need a strong and reliable machine. However, the Access seems to have more features and is slightly cheaper than the Activa. Ride comfort is something I have been unable to gauge because of limited test-riding range. What worries me about the Access is that it would be a plunge into the unknown - in terms of quality and reliability of the Suzuki!

    So essentially, which one do you guys is better? And is it right to write off TVS completely or still give the jupiter a chance since its seems to be selling like hotcakes. Finally, is taking the disk option on either of the scooters worth it? I have never ridden a bike with Disk brakes, which is why I am a bit concerned, especially with the CBS on the Honda.

    Any suggestions, experiences and opinions will help immensely helpful. Thanks in advance for all the advice

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    The problem is, the TVS servicing must be very incompetent in your area. I have never faced any problem with my Jupiter within 27K kms of ownership.
    Now coming to your next scooter, please choose the one, whose servicing is better in your area. Both your listed scooters are equally good. Only a descent servicing centre can guarantee your niggle free ownership experience for next 5 years. Talk to people using the brands to get an Idea. And do numerous test rides aswell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sambit View Post
    The problem is, the TVS servicing must be very incompetent in your area. I have never faced any problem with my Jupiter within 27K kms of ownership.
    Now coming to your next scooter, please choose the one, whose servicing is better in your area. Both your listed scooters are equally good. Only a descent servicing centre can guarantee your niggle free ownership experience for next 5 years. Talk to people using the brands to get an Idea. And do numerous test rides aswell.
    Thanks for the reply! Traditionally, with all my scooters, I give it to the showroom affiliated service centre for the first year (the free services), but thereafter, I give it to a local service garage who does some pretty top-notch work. This has been the case for both my activa and my wego - but confusingly, which I held the service constant, it was the wego that deteriorated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharthmsc View Post
    Hey guys!

    I am looking to buy a scooter in the coming two months and am torn between the Access 125 and the Activa 125 (BS-IV). A little history first - I have owned a 2009 spec Honda Activa for about 6 years before selling it in 2015. The scooter was perfect, and after having driver over 50,000 kms, I faced very few problems. Currently, I own a 2011 spec TVS Wego - which has covered about 26000 kms but given me twice as many problems as the Activa ever did - because of this, I have generally given up on TVS as a brand (Good idea?)

    One of the main reasons I am inclined towards the Activa 125 is because I trust honda for delivering a top-notch scooter which will not be plagued with problems over the coming years. I usually travel around 150 kms a week, and with that running, I really do need a strong and reliable machine. However, the Access seems to have more features and is slightly cheaper than the Activa. Ride comfort is something I have been unable to gauge because of limited test-riding range. What worries me about the Access is that it would be a plunge into the unknown - in terms of quality and reliability of the Suzuki!

    So essentially, which one do you guys is better? And is it right to write off TVS completely or still give the jupiter a chance since its seems to be selling like hotcakes. Finally, is taking the disk option on either of the scooters worth it? I have never ridden a bike with Disk brakes, which is why I am a bit concerned, especially with the CBS on the Honda.

    Any suggestions, experiences and opinions will help immensely helpful. Thanks in advance for all the advice

    We have the activa 110 and the swish 125 in our house (used by my wife and dad). Also had the first gen activa earlier, and have rode the activa 125. Reliability wise i would say that Honda's quality has gone down compared to the 1st gen activa and the other utterly reliable bikes from the Hero Honda JV.

    The suzuki is as reliable (if not more) as a Honda. Stress free experience in the 47,000 kms owned. The only parts changed were brake pads, spark plugs, air filter and tyres. While riding the activa 125 at around 65-70 kms i felt some amount of vibes. Not so in the suzuki. The suzuki mill might be rougher in the inital revs, but is absolutely stress free. I am getting a mileage of 38-40 kmpl. Service center experience is also better compared to Honda where you will find a million vehicles coming into service, the advisers having little time attending to customers.

    The suzuki engine is rougher in the inital rev range, but vibe free in the mid and top range. The Honda engine will certainly feel smoother in the lower revs but is vibey at higher revs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZZR1 View Post
    We have the activa 110 and the swish 125 in our house (used by my wife and dad). Also had the first gen activa earlier, and have rode the activa 125. Reliability wise i would say that Honda's quality has gone down compared to the 1st gen activa and the other utterly reliable bikes from the Hero Honda JV.

    The suzuki is as reliable (if not more) as a Honda. Stress free experience in the 47,000 kms owned. The only parts changed were brake pads, spark plugs, air filter and tyres. While riding the activa 125 at around 65-70 kms i felt some amount of vibes. Not so in the suzuki. The suzuki mill might be rougher in the inital revs, but is absolutely stress free. I am getting a mileage of 38-40 kmpl. Service center experience is also better compared to Honda where you will find a million vehicles coming into service, the advisers having little time attending to customers.

    The suzuki engine is rougher in the inital rev range, but vibe free in the mid and top range. The Honda engine will certainly feel smoother in the lower revs but is vibey at higher revs.
    Adding to my earlier post, the Jupiter has the same engine as a wego (110cc) and the acceleration is lesser than that of Activa 125/Access 125. AFAIK the Jupiter has a fibre body and the wego, metal body. The engine has been picked from the TVS Victor and is known to be reliable. Perhaps your case was an exception.

    Drum brakes would suffice on scooters, and discs are an overkill (unless you want to stunt). CBS on Honda acts when the rear brake is applied, wherein the front brake is activated, to add stability to the vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZZR1 View Post
    We have the activa 110 and the swish 125 in our house (used by my wife and dad). Also had the first gen activa earlier, and have rode the activa 125. Reliability wise i would say that Honda's quality has gone down compared to the 1st gen activa and the other utterly reliable bikes from the Hero Honda JV.

    The suzuki is as reliable (if not more) as a Honda. Stress free experience in the 47,000 kms owned. The only parts changed were brake pads, spark plugs, air filter and tyres. While riding the activa 125 at around 65-70 kms i felt some amount of vibes. Not so in the suzuki. The suzuki mill might be rougher in the inital revs, but is absolutely stress free. I am getting a mileage of 38-40 kmpl. Service center experience is also better compared to Honda where you will find a million vehicles coming into service, the advisers having little time attending to customers.

    The suzuki engine is rougher in the inital rev range, but vibe free in the mid and top range. The Honda engine will certainly feel smoother in the lower revs but is vibey at higher revs.

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    Adding to my earlier post, the Jupiter has the same engine as a wego (110cc) and the acceleration is lesser than that of Activa 125/Access 125. AFAIK the Jupiter has a fibre body and the wego, metal body. The engine has been picked from the TVS Victor and is known to be reliable. Perhaps your case was an exception.

    Drum brakes would suffice on scooters, and discs are an overkill (unless you want to stunt). CBS on Honda acts when the rear brake is applied, wherein the front brake is activated, to add stability to the vehicle.
    To be very honest, I don't usually ride faster than 50 kmph - fuel efficiency is very important to me. Since you have ridden both the Activas, can you tell me how you feel the reliability has gone down i.e in terms of what parameters? Another priority for me is ride comfort - a softer ride is much better for my back than being jolted around, as I do around 250 kilometers a week. I am frankly more inclined to the Suzuki Access, since the swish seems slightly more delicate. When you say that the suzuki is as reliable as the activa, do you mean gen 1 activa or the newer, less reliable activa?

    With regard to the TVSes, I really hope my case was an exception - because the Jupiter looks like a really good scooter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharthmsc View Post
    To be very honest, I don't usually ride faster than 50 kmph - fuel efficiency is very important to me. Since you have ridden both the Activas, can you tell me how you feel the reliability has gone down i.e in terms of what parameters? Another priority for me is ride comfort - a softer ride is much better for my back than being jolted around, as I do around 250 kilometers a week. I am frankly more inclined to the Suzuki Access, since the swish seems slightly more delicate. When you say that the suzuki is as reliable as the activa, do you mean gen 1 activa or the newer, less reliable activa?

    With regard to the TVSes, I really hope my case was an exception - because the Jupiter looks like a really good scooter.

    I had made a reference to the speeds only to give you an idea of comparative performance of the vehicles. I do not cross 50 kmph either. Comparing the 1st gen activa and the newer models one area where the newer models score is 'mileage'. The older activa used to return a mileage of around 40 kmpl whereas the newer activa returns around 48-50 kmpl. The areas where i feel the quality has gone down is build quality of the vehicle (ie mettallic and plastic parts), transmission (the transmission is jerky and the clutch needs to be adjusted frequently. No such problems in the older activa. This is a major downer IMO). Of course the vehicle has not left me stranded !

    Regarding the ride quality, choose a vehicle with telescopic fork suspension so that it does not provide a bumpy ride. Access would be a better choice than swish since it has a more planted ride. It would return a mileage of 38-42 kms. If you are looking for better mileage you need to chose a vehicle with a 100-110 cc engine (Jupiter, Aviator).

    Another aspect would be the service centers. In my city (Bangalore) suzuki has good service centres. Not sure in smaller cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddharthmsc View Post
    Hey guys!

    I am looking to buy a scooter in the coming two months and am torn between the Access 125 and the Activa 125 (BS-IV).

    So essentially, which one do you guys is better?
    Any suggestions, experiences and opinions will help immensely helpful. T
    I own 2006 Activa and Dec-2016 Access 125
    Why i chose Access 125 over Activa 125 or Jupiter is mentioned in my ownership thread in teambhp. You can search for "Milky Bar" in that forum to find my thread.

    1. Better ride and handling
    2. Better lights
    3. NVH levels way better than Activa : Activa grunted a lot while starting off compared to Access.
    4. How many Activa-125 you see on road vis-a-vis Access 125? These numbers show 20 access for every​ activa125 for me in Bangalore.
    5. i feel access is designed for 125cc capacity since beginning. Activa is force engineered from 110cc to match125cc.

    Post Purchase Ownership Experience
    1. Suzuki service center has treated me really well - leagues ahead of honda service center
    2. Activa spares will be readily available in any nook and corner of country. But not so for Suzuki.

    Suzuki pulled my hearts strings and puts a smile on my face every day i ride it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZZR1 View Post
    I had made a reference to the speeds only to give you an idea of comparative performance of the vehicles. I do not cross 50 kmph either. Comparing the 1st gen activa and the newer models one area where the newer models score is 'mileage'. The older activa used to return a mileage of around 40 kmpl whereas the newer activa returns around 48-50 kmpl. The areas where i feel the quality has gone down is build quality of the vehicle (ie mettallic and plastic parts), transmission (the transmission is jerky and the clutch needs to be adjusted frequently. No such problems in the older activa. This is a major downer IMO). Of course the vehicle has not left me stranded !

    Regarding the ride quality, choose a vehicle with telescopic fork suspension so that it does not provide a bumpy ride. Access would be a better choice than swish since it has a more planted ride. It would return a mileage of 38-42 kms. If you are looking for better mileage you need to chose a vehicle with a 100-110 cc engine (Jupiter, Aviator).

    Another aspect would be the service centers. In my city (Bangalore) suzuki has good service centres. Not sure in smaller cities.
    Thanks a lot ZZR1. I recently had a chance to test ride the Jupiter and the Access 125. The Access seemed very jerky and had a comparatively hard ride. I am still considering the Activa 125 BSIV - which I haven't had a chance to test yet. All the scooters I'm considering have a telescopic suspension - one of the reasons why I ignored the Activa 3G, or the upcoming 4G.

    With regard to the service centres, I have traditionally given my scooters to a local garage who does things up very well. However, looking at the responses, I noticed that this is not something everyone does. Is it something I should avoid with my new vehicle (Once the free services are over ofcourse).

    Thanks again and sorry for the late reply!

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    Quote Originally Posted by daretodream View Post
    I own 2006 Activa and Dec-2016 Access 125
    Why i chose Access 125 over Activa 125 or Jupiter is mentioned in my ownership thread in teambhp. You can search for "Milky Bar" in that forum to find my thread.

    1. Better ride and handling
    2. Better lights
    3. NVH levels way better than Activa : Activa grunted a lot while starting off compared to Access.
    4. How many Activa-125 you see on road vis-a-vis Access 125? These numbers show 20 access for every​ activa125 for me in Bangalore.
    5. i feel access is designed for 125cc capacity since beginning. Activa is force engineered from 110cc to match125cc.

    Post Purchase Ownership Experience
    1. Suzuki service center has treated me really well - leagues ahead of honda service center
    2. Activa spares will be readily available in any nook and corner of country. But not so for Suzuki.

    Suzuki pulled my hearts strings and puts a smile on my face every day i ride it!
    Hey, thanks for that! I looked around for your thread but I couldn't find it despite looking everywhere! Can you help me with the link? One of the overwhelming reasons I am inclined to the Access is its long and flat seat. I'm not too tall, but I like to sit a fair bit behind on the seat - allowing my legs to stretch. The problem I have faced with the Jupiter/Wego/Activa is that they now have a step up seat, which makes that position very very uncomfortable

    I test rode the access, and I found the ride to be a little too firm - almost reactive to the tiniest bumps on the road. Is this something you have experienced as well?

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