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    Quote Originally Posted by fullmoon View Post
    Mr.Shankhar, I didn't know the source of your information.But I politely say you are misinformed/misleaded. First I would like to tell you, I own a vespa, bought for my wife on December 2012, but i ride it a lot. I will clarify all the wrong information one by one.

    1) There are 4 sales & service centers in chennai. But one catch, when you buy a vespa, you cannot service it by outside mechanics because of nonavailability of spares.
    spares are readily available in vespa service centers though, for customer service. There is a customer care toll free no. also

    2) ASC of vespa is not average, It is good. They like to maintain the brand value & its exclusivity. Just Voice out your problems in service (usually there won't be), issues would be solved.Calls from vespa customer care usually approaches you and you can tell any issues you face. you can fix appointments through calls, if given at time, service would be done & returned promptly.

    3) Price is more. I do understand your opinion & respect it.The reason may seem illogical, they would like to maintain exclusivity, hence the price.
    but at the same time, it has features which is not found in any other scooters in India. Monocoque chassis, Superb Mechanical suspension (Not gas shocks),large fuel tank (7 litres), large under seat storage (20 litres),Full Metal Body which has very good durability, Engine centrally positioned for better weight balance, three phase alternator system which provides constant illumination at all times and their awesome engine which has nil vibrations ,silent engine on even high speeds & pickup only you can realise by a TD. Even its 125 cc variant (mine is 125 cc) can attain & hold 90 km/hr with ease.


    present versions comes with tubeless tyres & disc brakes. Why I should go gaga over this? Because I own it for the last 4 years.I would say the ownership is trouble free and the ownership cost is on par with its competitors, if not less.

    what a similarity between you & me. same as you everything, only the total commute of mine is worser than you, it is 45 km per day.

    2. Usage: Daily office commutation up & down 30kms with some roads have pot holes & patches.

    3. Age: 34, Height: 5.6 & Weight: 63
    Thank you for very valuable info, yes it looks like I have got some inappropriate information. I found out about the number of dealers after checking their website. And what a coincidence, Saturday evening I went to JMB Motors in Ashok Nagar and TDed VXL 125cc and after coming back home saw your message.

    After TDing the vehicle, felt no/less vibes, very stable and lighter compared to others (Activa, Access, ..), impressed with everything like drivability, suspension, body, placement of engine and all.

    Basic model comes around 83k plus accessories & others 5k totally = around 90k. Features wise - Drum brake, non-alloy wheels, Analog speedometer & fuel indicator, Tube tyres and comes in White, Yellow, Red and Matte Black colors.

    VXL 125 comes around 95k plus accessories & others, whereas which comes with Disc break, Alloy wheels, Digital Speedometer, Broader tubeless tyres - Front 110-70/11, Rear - 120-70/10 and with some more color options.

    After TDing Vespa tempted to go for it and also getting tempted to go for the second variant - VXL 125, but the price of which is too much, with the price I can go for Avenger 220 Cruise. Now I have ended up in total confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shankhar View Post

    After TDing Vespa tempted to go for it and also getting tempted to go for the second variant - VXL 125, but the price of which is too much, with the price I can go for Avenger 220 Cruise. Now I have ended up in total confusion.
    Confusion- One of the joys in the process of buying an automobile or any other purchase that's close to heart I must say. It's always a tug of war between heart and the mind ain't it ? and I'm going to add fuel to that fire, On the lines of Vespa, did you get a chance to TD Aprilia SR150 when you visited JMB? That might prove cheaper and more fun to ride. You may also include Suzuki Access to the list of scooters.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GandalfTheGrey View Post
    Confusion- One of the joys in the process of buying an automobile or any other purchase that's close to heart I must say. It's always a tug of war between heart and the mind ain't it ? and I'm going to add fuel to that fire, On the lines of Vespa, did you get a chance to TD Aprilia SR150 when you visited JMB? That might prove cheaper and more fun to ride. You may also include Suzuki Access to the list of scooters.

    Cheers!
    Haha yes, confusion is one of the joys, good that ends up in buying the good vehicle. Actually, I was planning to TD Aprilia SR 150, but I ain't since I already have neck pain and also if it is scooter family members may use it, so the sales guy told not to go for Aprilia. And yes I have already TD Suzuki Access and I liked it and felt better than Honda Activa & TVS Jupiter also the Access Special edition looks cool, comes in White Color, Chrome fittings for the mirror, brown color inner leg shield, chrome head lamp, retro maroon seat and few more. I was in the mindset to go for this or Unicorn or Avenger.

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    I own New Suzuki Access 125 CC. Special edition and i am in love with it.

    You can read detailed review here:


    http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...l-edition.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by daretodream View Post
    I own New Suzuki Access 125 CC. Special edition and i am in love with it.

    You can read detailed review here:


    http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...l-edition.html
    Yes read your review earlier, very good review. I liked Access was thinking to go for it.

    On 30th after getting to know about offers on BSIII vehicles started enquiring about offers on Vespa basic model LX 125, they told 5k for 2017 model and 10k for 2016 model and no credit card surcharge. I enquired other showrooms also but the first one was better so I went for it and paid full amount on Thursday - card payment, they gave 12.5 k discount final amount came around 75k. So went for it...

    Got it delivered today morning! White Beauty's pic
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    Quote Originally Posted by fullmoon View Post
    Mr.Shankhar, I didn't know the source of your information.But I politely say you are misinformed/misleaded. First I would like to tell you, I own a vespa, bought for my wife on December 2012, but i ride it a lot. I will clarify all the wrong information one by one.

    1) There are 4 sales & service centers in chennai. But one catch, when you buy a vespa, you cannot service it by outside mechanics because of nonavailability of spares.
    spares are readily available in vespa service centers though, for customer service. There is a customer care toll free no. also

    2) ASC of vespa is not average, It is good. They like to maintain the brand value & its exclusivity. Just Voice out your problems in service (usually there won't be), issues would be solved.Calls from vespa customer care usually approaches you and you can tell any issues you face. you can fix appointments through calls, if given at time, service would be done & returned promptly.

    3) Price is more. I do understand your opinion & respect it.The reason may seem illogical, they would like to maintain exclusivity, hence the price.
    but at the same time, it has features which is not found in any other scooters in India. Monocoque chassis, Superb Mechanical suspension (Not gas shocks),large fuel tank (7 litres), large under seat storage (20 litres),Full Metal Body which has very good durability, Engine centrally positioned for better weight balance, three phase alternator system which provides constant illumination at all times and their awesome engine which has nil vibrations ,silent engine on even high speeds & pickup only you can realise by a TD. Even its 125 cc variant (mine is 125 cc) can attain & hold 90 km/hr with ease.


    present versions comes with tubeless tyres & disc brakes. Why I should go gaga over this? Because I own it for the last 4 years.I would say the ownership is trouble free and the ownership cost is on par with its competitors, if not less.

    what a similarity between you & me. same as you everything, only the total commute of mine is worser than you, it is 45 km per day.

    2. Usage: Daily office commutation up & down 30kms with some roads have pot holes & patches.

    3. Age: 34, Height: 5.6 & Weight: 63
    Quote Originally Posted by shankhar View Post
    Yes read your review earlier, very good review. I liked Access was thinking to go for it.

    On 30th after getting to know about offers on BSIII vehicles started enquiring about offers on Vespa basic model LX 125, they told 5k for 2017 model and 10k for 2016 model and no credit card surcharge. I enquired other showrooms also but the first one was better so I went for it and paid full amount on Thursday - card payment, they gave 12.5 k discount final amount came around 75k. So went for it...

    Got it delivered today morning! White Beauty's pic
    I'm in Chennai and in for a scooter hunt too.

    I've short listed the following:

    1. Access 125
    2. Hero Duet
    3. Yamaha alpha
    4. Vespa.

    Vespa is my last priority since it is way too costly, even for the base model. I don't need the justification but I'm just comparing it with the rest in the list.

    My father is hell bent on metal bodied scooter and hence the Duet is included. What not? it's feature rich and rides well too.

    I personally like the Vespa and want to buy only the base model. I reckon it doesn't have tubeless tyres. Is it so? Please clarify! God I missed the the transition period from BS3 to BS4 where the scooters could have been a steal.

    So until now, I'm sold on access 125 and would happily buy the disc brake model. But still, my father wants a metal bodied scooter and there's already a suzuki at home but in the form of a motorcycle.

    Yamaha alpha is my personal favorite. It has the best disc brake and is always in control. Large, good seating and nice smooth engine. Perhaps the smoothest.

    I also had concerns about servicing in Chennai for Vespa. But now, after seeing your posts, I'm having little more confidence. The scooter will be used for solo riding mostly but is the pillion comfort too low? It's also this problem that makes me stay away from it. All the other scooters have abundant pillion space.

    I have no doubts that this scooter will last for lifetime and also something that my whole family is looking for. Also the resale value is more than other scooters. My dad's personal favorite is Vespa. The scooter will also be purchased by him so I want to make a good decision for him. Although he likes access 125, he finds the fibre body very unreliable and unsafe and I'm tired of explaining it to him. My bike has fibre body parts and doing just fine for 3 years now.

    So is it good to buy the base model of Vespa? or top models of the other three, namely, access 125, duet and alpha? I also acknowledge that Vespa gives same or even more mileage.

    Please guide me properly.

    One more doubtful incident happened yesterday. I was in suzuki service station yday to get my bike checked. Then, I got a call from Vespa showroom. I had registered last year on their website for a test ride. Since then they've been calling me. I've told them to call me next week, next month blah blah to gain some time. Also the nearest showroom is 10 km away, so lazy to go there too. But they've been following up closely at the exact time interval I've been telling them. This time I told them to call me next week. What I fear is the confidence that I have in them. They may not follow up like this after I buy the scooter. Just plain salesy. So how is it? Do they remind you of service intervals and other things with proper phone calls? They seem to be polite and well spoken too.
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    Default Re: Which Bike or Scooter - for Neck & Back Pain

    Dear friend , it is not the scooter or the bike that causes the back pain but the position you adopt while riding .ideally your elbows must be slightly flexed and you could bend a little forward . You must find the comfort zone for your body and bike

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