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    Default Need help selecting a new bike to replace my Duke.

    Hello everyone,

    I bought a duke 390 in late 2014 having been impressed by the bike's handling and power but was let down by how many problems crept up and how big, annoying and time consuming they were (not to mention that the bike turned into a damned money pit). But its a good thing as now I can sell it and I also have come into some money so I figured it was time for a nice actual beginner sport bike (AKA a 600-650cc maybe). I was thinking nothing too fancy, but good enough for both highway sprints every weekend and a mild sedate city commute every once in a while .

    But I couldn't make up my mind as there were just too many good choices out there. I went to the triumph guys here in Hyderabad but they were not up to the mark as far as their sales department was concerned (I actually almost paid the full amount in cash for the street twin) though I would still go for it if I could be assured that I wasn't buying another eventual money pit ( In terms of A-S-S provided by Triumph). Then I went and rode the Benelli 600i which was a lot of fun but as usual had bad quality and basic fit and finish of switch gear (I can live with that) and also really short service intervals (can't live with that). I also saw the 2017 Ninja 650 on the internet and was impressed but with the present Kawa-bajaj turf war going on it doesn't make sense to drop money on a Kawa. I went to Harley and really liked the 883 iron but the clunky (understatement) gear shift and the lack of any actually useful digital gear on the bike kinda led me away from it, couple that with a price tag of over 9 lakhs I was frankly disappointed.

    So simply put I am stumped. Please help me decide what to buy or what to wait for. My budget is up to 9 lakhs (would help if it didn't exceed that and would be better if it stayed under in fact) and I would use the bike on both highways and city commutes so it needs to have a less committed seating position and comfortable ergonomics and a few digitle bells and whistles like the ABS, gear shift indicator and tacho would really be appreciated. Just FYI I am not looking to buy second hand so no need to suggest the same.

    Any help would be appreciated including where I can go in or around Hyderabad to find dealers and test rides.

    Thank you all

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    Default Re: Need help selecting a new bike to replace my Duke.

    Query Approved

    The Kawa would be your best bet, depending on the SVC you have in your city. Bajaj and Kawa will apparently will be signing an agreement about this before the 31st of this month. Once you have that information, then you can go ahead and buy a bike. Wait till then!
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    Default Re: Need help selecting a new bike to replace my Duke.

    What about the new CBR 650?

    It's got a 220-250 kmph top end, comfortable seat for touring, ABS, and long service intervals. Honda has a 5 year extended warranty for the bike.

    I'm not sure about the price, but folks here have mentioned it to be around 8.5 on road, depending on the state taxes.
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    Default Re: Need help selecting a new bike to replace my Duke.

    Going by your requirements, Street Triple fits your bill quite perfectly.
    Also, it's a logical upgrade to Duke 390, with both sharing the hooligan nature.

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    Default Re: Need help selecting a new bike to replace my Duke.

    Hi,
    Just came across this post. Check this . hope it suits both touring and city commuting.

    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/28542-random-news-thread-india-post1281413.html
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    Default Re: Need help selecting a new bike to replace my Duke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balgi View Post
    Hello everyone,


    Any help would be appreciated including where I can go in or around Hyderabad to find dealers and test rides.

    Thank you all
    Go for the CBR 650F - its on heavy discount and on road price is around 7.6 lakhs. Its a 4 inline and has plush seats. Just that you will have to take care of the ground clearance as its only 133 mm and might be an issue on speed breakers.

    Another good bet is the versys 650

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    Default Re: Need help selecting a new bike to replace my Duke.

    My suggestion,
    Dont go for Harley Davidson and other cruisers..
    Not worth.
    And Don't go for BENELLI too.



    You have 2 options, naked and full faired.


    Since you were using a duke390, you may be more comfortable with nakeds, so Kawa Z800 is the best Here.



    And if you want to experience Full faired bikes then cbr650 and Versys 650 are the best two option.

    CBR650 is like cbr250, sports tourer.


    Where as Versys is go anywhere kind of machine , it will be a lot of fun if you go to places with no roads.

    Both cbr650 and Versys gets ABS too.


    If you are comfused between kawa and honda, then Kawasaki makes more sense as they sell middle weight bikes in very good number compared to Honda, so getting the spare and wearable parts would be a easier job with Kawa.






    And as mentioned by a fellow member triumph street triple is just a great upgrade for you from the little monster D390, but yes the availability of parts are the major issues.
    These parts mainly include the wearable parts eg brake pads, for which you have to wait for long as mentioned by motovloger Akash Dingere who owns a street triple himself.

    So
    1)Versys 650
    2)Z800
    3) CBR 650F

    Cheers.
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    Default Re: Need help selecting a new bike to replace my Duke.

    Quote Originally Posted by IamAditya View Post
    My suggestion,
    Dont go for Harley Davidson and other cruisers..
    Not worth.
    And Don't go for BENELLI too.



    You have 2 options, naked and full faired.


    Since you were using a duke390, you may be more comfortable with nakeds, so Kawa Z800 is the best Here.



    And if you want to experience Full faired bikes then cbr650 and Versys 650 are the best two option.

    CBR650 is like cbr250, sports tourer.


    Where as Versys is go anywhere kind of machine , it will be a lot of fun if you go to places with no roads.

    Both cbr650 and Versys gets ABS too.


    If you are comfused between kawa and honda, then Kawasaki makes more sense as they sell middle weight bikes in very good number compared to Honda, so getting the spare and wearable parts would be a easier job with Kawa.






    And as mentioned by a fellow member triumph street triple is just a great upgrade for you from the little monster D390, but yes the availability of parts are the major issues.
    These parts mainly include the wearable parts eg brake pads, for which you have to wait for long as mentioned by motovloger Akash Dingere who owns a street triple himself.

    So
    1)Versys 650
    2)Z800
    3) CBR 650F

    Cheers.
    Z800 is out as I am neither tall enough nor Jacked up (musclebound) enough to handle the grotesquely front heavy abomination that it is (trust me I've tried out the bike, It belongs to a six footer who has dropped it twice at standstill due to its weight). The versys is just not for me (too tall and too touring focussed, way too much torque, so not good for anything but the open highway).

    I am test riding the cbr650 and I hope I like it.

    But honestly everyone is saying not benelli. But why in the world not? No one seems to be interested in giving actual reasons for saying this. I can't just rule out a bike based on what seems like pure bias (due to lack of reason for the negative feedback). If you could tell me more as to why you say not benelli, it would help me greatly. If you know someone who owns one and want to share their experiences with me I would really appreciate it. Also cbr650 is sold in more limited numbers than the benelli for some reason in hyderabad, so if the cbr650 is better then why wouldn't it sell like at all (seriously there are like six or seven owners in all of hyderabad as opposed to about 65 benelli 600i owners as per the showrooms customer contact list) so the way I see it, there must be real problem with the cbr. I mean the price isn't great but its not a deal breaker so honestly if benellis were so bad I honestly don't know why anyone buys one. But thanks for the input all the same and also I don't want anything to do with those (insert swears and bad language here) triumph rascals. The sales team there have killed triumph bikes for me completely.

    Regards

    Balgi

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    Quote Originally Posted by kailashnj View Post
    Go for the CBR 650F - its on heavy discount and on road price is around 7.6 lakhs. Its a 4 inline and has plush seats. Just that you will have to take care of the ground clearance as its only 133 mm and might be an issue on speed breakers.

    Another good bet is the versys 650
    Cbr650 is on discount @ 50000 rupees. True and I have asked for a test ride too.
    Last edited by Balgi; 03-18-2017 at 02:35 AM.

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    Default Re: Need help selecting a new bike to replace my Duke.

    Benelli bikes have huge service costs and to make matters worse service interval is like some 150CC motorcycles.

    They are not reliable, not one or two, randomly they have some issues.

    Here 2 of my friends ownn tnt25, one had coolant leak the other had issues in speedometer, some sensors were replaced under warranty.



    After a full tank, the petrol overflows directly on top of the engine, that is pathetic engineering.


    Unless you like the exhaust note, there is no point in buying it.

    CBR650F is far far better option if you can afford.

    Cheers.
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    Default Re: Need help selecting a new bike to replace my Duke.

    You could even consider Dominar 400

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