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    Default Re: Tourer for rough roads, RE Him. CBR250, Fz150, Duke?

    From my experience, if you're going for Bajaj, I suggest don't go for any with fairing. It will make your life a hell. I have one and every time I go for long rides and hit bed at night, I hear the fairing vibration even in my sleep. If you wouldn't cross 6 or 7k rpm then go for it but the rough terrain will make it happen anyways. I heard my brother saying the non-faired one is also equally pathetic. But not really sure about Dominor. Have a deep research on Dominor once again. May be after a month as its very new.

    RE -none of my friends who owned is happy. So it's based on your luck.

    I read your recent post but if at all you finally have to rethink and bring back RE and Bajaj (except Dominor) .
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    Default Re: Tourer for rough roads, RE Him. CBR250, Fz150, Duke?

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBoatwright View Post

    I've been reading the touring reports, and I am so excited to catch a plane out of here! I see many people using R15s, FZ150s, REs, Pulsars, CBRs, whatever, you name it, you guys are touring with it! The Indian touring community is truly inspiring, especially coming from the US, where people are reluctant to ride anything under 600cc on the highway, let alone across states, and people here would never take a street bike off-road! Thanks again for all the excellent advice!

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    In India, we touring folk follow an adaptation of the age old motorcycling adage "Wrung what ya brung"

    Here, riding with a larger capacity motorcycle brings its own set of challenges. People are generally more curious and privacy isn't a much honoured word! It's a different world from the west. You will experience it shortly

    I have a doubt. Are Nepal registered vehicles allowed to be ridden in India for extended periods of time? Even if there is a provision for such, you might face unnecessary harassment from cops, in every part of India which isn't close to the Indo-Nepal border. Since they just won't be used to seeing Nepal registered bikes so far away from the border! Do check this out. You wouldn't want to be stuck with a bike which cannot be ridden because of red tape!
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    Default Re: Tourer for rough roads, RE Him. CBR250, Fz150, Duke?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Monk View Post
    In India, we touring folk follow an adaptation of the age old motorcycling adage "Wrung what ya brung"

    Here, riding with a larger capacity motorcycle brings its own set of challenges. People are generally more curious and privacy isn't a much honoured word! It's a different world from the west. You will experience it shortly

    I have a doubt. Are Nepal registered vehicles allowed to be ridden in India for extended periods of time? Even if there is a provision for such, you might face unnecessary harassment from cops, in every part of India which isn't close to the Indo-Nepal border. Since they just won't be used to seeing Nepal registered bikes so far away from the border! Do check this out. You wouldn't want to be stuck with a bike which cannot be ridden because of red tape!
    I likewise have my doubts about the bureaucratic issues surrounding this; I don't want to deal with paperwork, I want to go ride! Still life is what it is, and I will do what I must. I've been looking into it, and everywhere I find any note of buying a bike in the region, people say to buy a Nepalese bike for riding in India, unless you are willing to ride a bike that isn't registered in your name:

    On crossing the border:

    "Nepal is wonderful for riding. The people are famous for being friendly, honest, and happy. The environment is clean. Roads are much quieter and safer than in India. If it’s your first time in the region, Nepal can offer a gentle introduction for what lies across the border. There’s no problem riding into India; you just need to show your tourist visa and bike papers at the checkpoint."

    On Indian bikes:

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    As a tourist, the process of buying an Indian-plate bike couldn’t be easier; just swap your money for the bike and registration papers. Foreigners cannot legally register an Indian bike in their name unless they are a resident of India, but holding the papers effectively proves ownership."

    On registration of Nepalese bikes:

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    It is possible for foreigners to have Nepali bikes registered in their name."

    (^from Hearts and Tears, a British company that has been giving bike tours in Nepal, and brokering bike sales to foreigners, for a very long time)
    (The whole page on this: http://www.gnd.com.np/hnt/content.php?cms_id=138 )

    I found the information on the matter to be the same on Horizons Ulimited, and Adventure Rider as well.

    I am still a bit nervous about it, and I have heard the police will give you some grief over a Nepalese plated bike, but I could not find anything suggesting it is illegal. Worse case scenario, if it turns out that there is a time limit I did not find out about, or other trouble, it will be very easy to ride back to Nepal and sell the bike. I have always been an inpatient salesman; I will price the bike two, or five hundred USD below what everyone else is selling similar bikes for, and it will sell quickly. But! I certainly hope, and believe, I should be ok with a Nepalese registration.

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    Default Re: Tourer for rough roads, RE Him. CBR250, Fz150, Duke?

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBoatwright View Post

    I am still a bit nervous about it, and I have heard the police will give you some grief over a Nepalese plated bike, but I could not find anything suggesting it is illegal. Worse case scenario, if it turns out that there is a time limit I did not find out about, or other trouble, it will be very easy to ride back to Nepal and sell the bike. I have always been an inpatient salesman; I will price the bike two, or five hundred USD below what everyone else is selling similar bikes for, and it will sell quickly. But! I certainly hope, and believe, I should be ok with a Nepalese registration.

    We ourselves face harassment when we try to ride in different state vehicles. Find out what are the documents required to ride in India with Nepal registration and Ensure all the papers are in order, nevertheless you have to spent fair amount of time with Cops if they stop you
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBoatwright View Post
    I am still a bit nervous about it, and I have heard the police will give you some grief over a Nepalese plated bike, but I could not find anything suggesting it is illegal. Worse case scenario, if it turns out that there is a time limit I did not find out about, or other trouble, it will be very easy to ride back to Nepal and sell the bike. I have always been an inpatient salesman; I will price the bike two, or five hundred USD below what everyone else is selling similar bikes for, and it will sell quickly. But! I certainly hope, and believe, I should be ok with a Nepalese registration.

    Why dont you think of renting a bike in India? Atleast the bike would have an Indian registration and you can hope not to be harassed as much as a foreign registration would attract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellgate View Post
    Why dont you think of renting a bike in India? Atleast the bike would have an Indian registration and you can hope not to be harassed as much as a foreign registration would attract.
    I'm pretty picky about bike maintenance, and overall condition. It will be bad enough to be unable to do the work on it myself; at least if I own I get to say what happens to the bike, and when, without dumping money into someone else's' possession. I also wonder about how realistic it would be to rent for six months, hopefully even longer, while riding across state lines.

    If it turns into too big of an issue, I'll ride it back to Nepal and sell it, and rethink my plans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBoatwright View Post
    If it turns into too big of an issue, I'll ride it back to Nepal and sell it, and rethink my plans.
    The question is at what point (better still at what distance from Nepal) you (if) would face that scenario. God forbid you have a brush with the law in some rural area with a foreign no vehicle. Out here in Bangalore, folks would be more than happy to rent you for extended periods for discounts. I had rented a R3 for more than a week on pretty good discounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBoatwright View Post
    If it turns into too big of an issue, I'll ride it back to Nepal and sell it, and rethink my plans.
    The question is at what point (better still at what distance from Nepal) you (if) would face that scenario. God forbid you have a brush with the law in some rural area with a foreign no vehicle. Out here in Bangalore, folks would be more than happy to rent you for extended periods for discounts. I had rented a R3 for more than a week on pretty good discounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellgate View Post
    The question is at what point (better still at what distance from Nepal) you (if) would face that scenario. God forbid you have a brush with the law in some rural area with a foreign no vehicle. Out here in Bangalore, folks would be more than happy to rent you for extended periods for discounts. I had rented a R3 for more than a week on pretty good discounts.

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    The question is at what point (better still at what distance from Nepal) you (if) would face that scenario. God forbid you have a brush with the law in some rural area with a foreign no vehicle. Out here in Bangalore, folks would be more than happy to rent you for extended periods for discounts. I had rented a R3 for more than a week on pretty good discounts.
    The greater question still is what will they do if they stop me? I mean a) I pull out my papers, show them what I am doing is legal, and the go find someone else to bother, or b) they demand a small "donation".

    How often will the police ask for a small "donation"? How much would this be? Is this even what would happen? Would them attempt to seize my bike and arrest me? In Cambodia for instance if the cops stop you it's like $2 US.
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    Default Re: Tourer for rough roads, RE Him. CBR250, Fz150, Duke?

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBoatwright View Post
    The greater question still is what will they do if they stop me? I mean a) I pull out my papers, show them what I am doing is legal, and the go find someone else to bother, or b) they demand a small "donation".

    How often will the police ask for a small "donation"? How much would this be? Is this even what would happen? Would them attempt to seize my bike and arrest me? In Cambodia for instance if the cops stop you it's like $2 US.
    Contrary to what others are saying I feel you won't face much of issues. Yes you might be stopped at quite a few places but if you have all the valid papers then along passport and visa you won't face much issue

    Yes there will be instance where if you are stopped the cops will ask some money but it will be mostly $2-5. Seizing and arrrest won't happen

    Make sure you have proper RC, Road tax document, insurance, PUC (Done in India), probably any document of border crissing. Passport and visa
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBoatwright View Post
    The greater question still is what will they do if they stop me? I mean a) I pull out my papers, show them what I am doing is legal, and the go find someone else to bother, or b) they demand a small "donation".

    How often will the police ask for a small "donation"? How much would this be? Is this even what would happen? Would them attempt to seize my bike and arrest me? In Cambodia for instance if the cops stop you it's like $2 US.
    You mostly wont face any issues while you are in big cities and mostly cops there would know about these things. The biggest challenge would be in the interior parts of India. Thats where cops might not be accustomed to such things and can cause harrasment. Getting caught by cops is something that depends on your luck.


    Till now, I have been stopped by cops thrice (all 3 times in Kerala).
    1. They stopped me to ask why my headlight is on during day. Had to explain to them that its DRL.
    2. Was stopped as the cop was curious about the saddle bags.
    3. This was a routine check while entering Munnar. They checked my RC and DL and let me leave.


    I hope you can speak broken Hindi as some of the cops dont understand English, especially in the interior parts of India.
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