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    Quote Originally Posted by nav75 View Post
    Can you please share a copy of the servicing bill of the carb and fi stunner?


    No it doesn't.
    If you have looked at the servicing bill closely, there is a "servicing fee" added to the bill. Under this fee, the service center/mechanic will do only a fixed set of tasks.
    Anything else that needs to be done, will be charged extra fee (other than the cost of consumable). This is what falls under maintenance and not servicing.


    #1: As per my understanding, FI and Carb does one job, and that's of providing fuel. Though through FI, one can get a better control over fueling (as compared to Carb) & hence can avoid issues like cold start and others.
    #2: You are the one owning and using a Bajaj bike, you should know better.
    From what I hear from my friends (owning Ninja250 and KTM 200), those bikes are also serviced at the same service center where other Bajaj vehicles are serviced. I see no reason why 200NS should not get serviced there. About getting "premium" treatment, I guess one will have to wait and see. I didn't read anything about it being mentioned in the press release of 200NS launch.
    Buddy, N250 & Duke 200 will get serviced only & only at PBK service station. Yes, presently the P220, 200 & Avenger shares the same because they are/were being sold through PBK. Pulsars & Avenger will be phased out of PBK. They will then have to shift to regular dealer service.
    Yes, N250 & KTM 200 gets premium service at PBK as they have dedicated Sr engineer from Bajaj & Sr mechanic from dealer catering to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sayank10 View Post
    I've ridden bikes with carbs and bikes with FI and there isn't much of a difference to my mind (bearing in mind that my motorcycle is primarily used for commuting).

    Yes FI equipped bike starts immediately and requires no futzing with a choke or "fuel enricher", but how difficult is it to pull the choke out and then push it back in a bit later?

    Once on the go, like most FI equipped bikes, there are times when it adds an on/off character to the throttle, which causes an uncomfortable surging that is not present in bikes that have carbs.

    I guess FI bikes are a little more economical in terms of fuel consumption and are "greener" (if you care about such things), but I definitely wouldn't let the fact that a bike has carbs be a deal breaker.

    Well said.... I have an RTR 160 FI and this is my 3rd bike and I would say I am in the overall sense disappointed with the engine performance..... It is jerky, inconsistent in power delivery, service guys hardly know anything about it, the bike doesnt even start with a low battery unlike carbs!! even with a kick start.... Pathetic...

    The Indian bikes which claim themselves to be equipped with FI are just low quality products which have more problems than benefits... No wonder then both BAJAJ and TVS chucked their FI versions very soon after the launch!! My bike has no proper resale value too since its an FI!! disappointing...

    NOTE: The above points dont hold good for the Japs (HONDA, YAM, SUZ, KAW).. as they are international standard and it shows in their performance.... Bikes like CBR and R15 work superbly being FIs..

    Please note that I beleive the ABS system provided on RTR 180 for an additional 8K is also sub standard!! Please note that a tech which costs an additional 25K on CBR costs only 8K on RTR!! that shows the quality of the product as a whole and its functionality....

    Im happy that the new Pulsar NS is just a carb without a low cost FI variant....

    Happy Riding :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashish33us View Post
    Thanks for the Info. I am still not able to decide between RTR 180 ABS, Pulsar200 NS and Yamaha R15 because in a way they all miss one thing as i love to go on rides from Delhi to Haridwar, Dehradun, Rishikesh and Masuri:- RTR180 ABS dont have a Liquid Cooled Engine for long rides as i think it will heat up for that much of a long ride because i am planning to leave delhi at 4am and ride nonstop from delhi to haridwar on my new bike, Yamaha R15 - Have a low CC engine and doest have a ABS, Pulsar 200NS dont have a FI and ABS. Only one bike (CBR 250) has all that and that is out of my reach as my maximum budget is 1.50lakh and that costs around 1.80lakh.. Bajaj please increase your bike price to 1.50lakh and give me a FI, ABS (as i think it is almost impossible to stop a bike on a wet surface without ABS at a speed more then 60Kmph) and a Nice Fairing plzzzzzzzzzz.

    Impossible to stop the bike on a wet surface without ABS at more than 60 kmph!!

    What non sense is this!! Its all a myth... ABS does work in providing a little more safety by not locking up thats it!! it doesnt do anything more...

    Remember safer and grippier tyres and the surface plays a big role than the brakes and ABS!!

    I have seen very successful all terrain bikers with only drums front and back!!

    Given your choice of bikes chose Pulsar 200 NS as it beats R15 in value for money and RTR with a much better overall product!!

    Happy Riding :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthusiastic View Post
    First of all Im glad that you asked my opinion. Though Im new in X-Bhp, Iv been following some "popular" users of which you are certainly one. Your comments are well researched & Im mighty impressed by that. If theres a poll for moderator no doubt Illl find you most suitable by wat I read all the things. That was a genuine buttering


    I did not get why this point came in here for P200NS pricing. And I am not sure why 220 DTSFi was stopped. I'd driven that n its one of the best machines Iv ever driven in my life. If you can just remind me why they stopped 220 DTSFi. Some ppl say that its not stopped but is made on demand. Not sure about. it. Cat con is lil expensive AFAIK.



    I would say that D200 has oversized tyre and I suppose that could also be a solid reason in its lower FE compared to P200NS apart from some tech differences.

    Now coming to the main point. Im estimating the prices since Iv no idea of exact prices by any means.
    I dont think they are saving 15k for Fi over carb. 12k would do it. AFAIR isn't the difference between RTR 160 & RTR 160 Fi just 6-7K? isn't the super overpriced version of Stunner Fi 10k more expensive than the carb? I don't knw why it was 15k previously in case of DTSFi but it should be around 12k. yes they are saving good in SOHC and using heavier parts(& not aluminium) for the swing arm and some body parts which are cheaper. I dont think they must be saving much in the thinner forks.
    Do remember they are paying more for 2extra spark plugs ~500rs more
    They are also saving in front Disc brakes. For Duke its 2-pot 300mm caliber compared to single pot floating 280mm Dic for NS.

    But in total the savings would never be 50K. It should be in the tune of 35-36K from my approximations I have listed. In reality we can just make approximations but it is very difficult to ascertain the differences.

    The real difference is keeping the KTM shareholders happy for Duke while thats not the case with Pulsar!! simple...

    Happy Riding :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pravin.murthy View Post
    Please note that I beleive the ABS system provided on RTR 180 for an additional 8K is also sub standard!! Please note that a tech which costs an additional 25K on CBR costs only 8K on RTR!! that shows the quality of the product as a whole and its functionality....
    honda uses c-abs,which is different than rtr abs in fuctionality.
    rtr 's abs provides basic anti-lock mechanism with rear wheel lift protection.
    c-abs of honda provides basic anti lock mechanism with a exclusive feature ,in which if you press rear break same amount of pressure gets apllied on the front brake,resulting in more stable braking with lesser stopping distance.
    Quote Originally Posted by pravin.murthy View Post
    What non sense is this!! Its all a myth... ABS does work in providing a little more safety by not locking up thats it!! it doesnt do anything more...

    Remember safer and grippier tyres and the surface plays a big role than the brakes and ABS!!
    actually it is combined effect of brake,abs and traction of tyre,condition of tarmac.
    and the question remains why do i race?
    every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

    #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
    #overkill is underrated.
    #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

    (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pravin.murthy View Post
    Please note that I beleive the ABS system provided on RTR 180 for an additional 8K is also sub standard!! Please note that a tech which costs an additional 25K on CBR costs only 8K on RTR!! that shows the quality of the product as a whole and its functionality....
    The ABS Tech on Maruti Suzuki Ritz VXi costs 25k but on Ritz VDi, it costs 19k. Which one do you think is better among the 2? Also compare this figure to CBR which has 2 lesser wheel speed sensors than a Ritz (which of course has 4 wheels).

    @Nav75 my bad on the 220 FI system. Whenever I read about it, all I could see was that the FI system was made by Delphi. Thats the reason I thought they might have outsourced the tech and so might be paying royalty for it. That also explained the higher difference than the other Carb / Fi twins. So it seems their secret is something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antz.bin View Post
    @Nav75 my bad on the 220 FI system. Whenever I read about it, all I could see was that the FI system was made by Delphi. .
    it was a collaboration between bajaj and delphi.
    and the question remains why do i race?
    every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

    #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
    #overkill is underrated.
    #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

    (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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    Personally I don't think the new pulsar 200NS would be that much costly because the general public don't know (or don't care about) the drastic changes which occur under the hood. So pricing it too high might not me right decision. 5k-10k costlier than the previous pulsar at max I would say.

    P.s. How much did the previous pulsar 200 cost anyway? (Sorry about the ignorance )

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    I also think that BAL is mum on the P200NS pricing because of the Budget 2012.
    Its expected to hike certain taxes, excise duties, etc. So keeping that in mind BAL would be waiting for the declaration to fix its prices.
    OT: And as it is the Indian Govt is really good at relaxing taxes and prices
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    Quote Originally Posted by redlag View Post
    P.s. How much did the previous pulsar 200 cost anyway? (Sorry about the ignorance )
    74-77k varying state-wise.
    Quote Originally Posted by myth2104 View Post
    I also think that BAL is mum on the P200NS pricing because of the Budget 2012.
    Its expected to hike certain taxes, excise duties, etc. So keeping that in mind BAL would be waiting for the declaration to fix its prices.
    OTR: And as it is the Indian Govt is really good at relaxing taxes and prices
    when is the union budget?
    myth it's ot not otr.
    and the question remains why do i race?
    every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

    #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
    #overkill is underrated.
    #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

    (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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