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    Quote Originally Posted by N-o-v-i-c-e View Post
    There has been no significant change in the weather here....i get your point.
    I shall check again tomorrow....not riding enough coz of workload.

    The main jet has been changed to size 115 from the stock 112.5 and the pilot remains the same.
    So i guess there-in lies the problem....maybe cant do nothing about the pilot...
    it is very very hard sourcing the pilot jet. its easy to search for GOD in you room than this.

    cheers....
    Hi, didnt ride the bike since last few days. Increased workload. Phew.
    Today just rode the bike for a short distance to get a haircut.

    What i observed was that the bike starts at the first crank.
    And then if i OFF it and try to start again, it takes 3-4 more cranks.

    Now is this a CDI issue or standard engine behaviour??
    Generally speaking how do i check if the CDI is functioning properly?

    Cuz i still haven't done anything about the flat spot between 2-4k rpm.
    Also the flat spot is more pronounced when the engine heats up a bit.

    cheers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by N-o-v-i-c-e View Post
    Hi, didnt ride the bike since last few days. Increased workload. Phew.
    Today just rode the bike for a short distance to get a haircut.

    What i observed was that the bike starts at the first crank.
    And then if i OFF it and try to start again, it takes 3-4 more cranks.

    Now is this a CDI issue or standard engine behaviour??
    Generally speaking how do i check if the CDI is functioning properly?

    Cuz i still haven't done anything about the flat spot between 2-4k rpm.
    Also the flat spot is more pronounced when the engine heats up a bit.

    cheers...

    I think starting with one crank and getting off and again taking 3-4 cranks to restart is normal behaviour. It also happens to me once in a blue moon and when the bike was new it was happening all day and when I set the idle to 1.4k then it vanished but it happens once in a while. Maybe it happened to you because bike was not ridden for few days.

    Just try to take the bike everyday and see if it continues.

    What's the mileage and what's the ODO, is there any difference now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by N-o-v-i-c-e View Post
    Hi, didnt ride the bike since last few days. Increased workload. Phew.
    Today just rode the bike for a short distance to get a haircut.

    What i observed was that the bike starts at the first crank.
    And then if i OFF it and try to start again, it takes 3-4 more cranks.

    Now is this a CDI issue or standard engine behaviour??
    Generally speaking how do i check if the CDI is functioning properly?

    Cuz i still haven't done anything about the flat spot between 2-4k rpm.
    Also the flat spot is more pronounced when the engine heats up a bit.

    cheers...
    I have already posted the reason on the 1st page "questionnaire" post on this thread (Updating things as i remember!!) It is normal. Once you finish your run in and fill-in semi-synthetic/FS oil the problem will be lesser. Just apply a slight throttle when starting, it should crank easily then. As you continue to clock miles the piston rings are slowly getting chipped off to the correct tolerance levels.

    If CDI is not working, your engine simply won't start as far as i can remember.

    If you go by Mik's advice, change the mineral oil and the oil filter at say 500 kms to get rid of the extra "imri" or metal particles and then at 1000 kms replace the engine oil to SS/FS oil and also replace the oil filter. Your engine should ease up with cranking up to life more easily as well.

    If you do so, please do click a pic of the spent oil in the collection bowl preferably in the sun light to see how much quantity of metal particles do you see in the oil..

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by shv18 View Post
    I have already posted the reason on the 1st page "questionnaire" post on this thread (Updating things as i remember!!) It is normal. Once you finish your run in and fill-in semi-synthetic/FS oil the problem will be lesser. Just apply a slight throttle when starting, it should crank easily then. As you continue to clock miles the piston rings are slowly getting chipped off to the correct tolerance levels.

    If CDI is not working, your engine simply won't start as far as i can remember.

    If you go by Mik's advice, change the mineral oil and the oil filter at say 500 kms to get rid of the extra "imri" or metal particles and then at 1000 kms replace the engine oil to SS/FS oil and also replace the oil filter. Your engine should ease up with cranking up to life more easily as well.

    If you do so, please do click a pic of the spent oil in the collection bowl preferably in the sun light to see how much quantity of metal particles do you see in the oil..

    Cheers,
    Now that you mention it i kinda remember that the engine feels a little heavy while starting....

    I think the reason being the tight tolerance between the piston and block.

    Earlier it used to half rev and stop at the first crank.
    Now its better than what it used to be at the time of the build.

    Also will check out for uneven spark.

    cheers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by N-o-v-i-c-e View Post
    And then if i OFF it and try to start again, it takes 3-4 more cranks.
    Quote Originally Posted by jonahmano View Post
    I think starting with one crank and getting off and again taking 3-4 cranks to restart is normal behaviour.
    Have a think about what you 2 both wrote above, It taking another 3-4 cranks.
    Name the cycles the engine does.

    There will be a big clue as to why your engine doesn't start on the first crank
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    Quote Originally Posted by N-o-v-i-c-e View Post
    Now that you mention it i kinda remember that the engine feels a little heavy while starting.........

    Also will check out for uneven spark.

    cheers
    My 1000th Post!!

    Anyways, once you do install the 29MM CV Carburetor, do ask Joel, RC to advise you how to hotwire the CDI so that it always stays on "Aggressive Mode" and keeps the bike's acceleration brute. That should also bring about a drastic change with the way the power is delivered to your souped up ride. For Noobs: i shall explain this later.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by shv18 View Post
    My 1000th Post!!

    Anyways, once you do install the 29MM CV Carburetor, do ask Joel, RC to advise you how to hotwire the CDI so that it always stays on "Aggressive Mode" and keeps the bike's acceleration brute. That should also bring about a drastic change with the way the power is delivered to your souped up ride. For Noobs: i shall explain this later.

    Cheers,
    You are referring to the TPS being locked at WOT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Mik View Post
    You are referring to the TPS being locked at WOT?
    Little bit difficult to explain will do so with the pics i am not well versed in this subject.. so let me steal some gyan/info from Joel and then will post the details. I remember him telling me that he has kept the TPS locked on Rylan's FZ 18. As a result the initial worry of the CDI working only on the base mode has been taken care of.

    @N-o-v-i-c-e: Still awaiting for the post mate

    Cheers,
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    Hi Shiv

    What's your update man? Did you send the head for porting? Did you get your things by courier. Also I'm seeing some guy named "summer" is also getting his bike joelled by the end of this month. Will set this thread on fire!

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    Default The ship has started sailing!!

    @Jonahmano: I am still out of station so i guess it will have to wait.. Funny thing is i am getting inundated with a lot of FZ RC part related queries, most of them not active either on the ownership or this thread! So trust me there are a lot of silent people behind the scenes who will soon join the world of hot roding.

    @All: The first lot of RC parts Shipment (BB Kit, Air Filter, Mild Cam & Stiffer Clutch Springs) for my FZX-RC is leaving today from Blore. So trust me guys, I am indeed getting impatient to reach Mumbai at the earliest. However, till i finish my pending work it will be a while till i can get my hands on them..

    The final lot (29mm CV Carburetor) will be shipped to me along with my ride's tuned head, the moment i am able to ship the stock head to RC first.

    Had a quick chat with Joel, poor guy is busy with his trackdays racing commitments but was prompt enough to respond to my mails.

    So now the waiting begins!! My expert mechanic is also anxious and excited to perform the "open heart surgery" on my ride along with his minions!!

    So Gents do expect a lot of pics of the whole dismantling of my stock engine and a detailed blabbering on the same soon.. Till then..

    To be continued...

    Cheers,
    Last edited by shv18; 10-04-2012 at 05:59 PM.
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