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    Icon5 Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

    Hi,

    I'm trying to find what differentiates the power/torque delivery between a Pulsar 220 and Avenger 220 Engine.

    They have the exact same bore x stroke spec as per manual. I understand that power to weight ratio, Rear Tyre, Wheelbase, different exhausts are all players, but loss of 2PS of power and almost 2Nm of Torque wouldn't go without any engine tuning.

    I also read that manufacturers quote Power/Torque at the crank, not at the wheel. So the 2PS/2Nm at crank should be attainable ???

    I was told that the difference in power/torque between a Avenger 220 and Pulsar 220 is due to the Ignition System. Any one has any reliable info on this?

    To replace the ignition system with a Pulsars, what all would've to be changed apart from the CDI ? What about the Reed Assembly, Magento Ignition Coil??

    Any help on this topic is appreciated.

    Thx, Subbu
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    Default Re: Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

    Quote Originally Posted by The Monk View Post
    GBD Approved and Moved
    Thanks for the Approval!!

    Tagging @abhijeet080808. Saw an awesome CDI thread by you, hope you don't mind and could help with this. What would be the cons if I were to swap just the CDIs and what could go bad or good?

    EDIT:
    Just found these machines use different carburetors (forgot A220 has no autochoke). The P220 uses a UCAL UCD 32 carburettor and the Avenger uses a Mikuni BS29... got these from the internet, so not sure how accurate they are....

    Is the autochoke function confined to the working of the carb, or does it depend/plug into the CDI too???
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    Default Re: Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

    I was wondering.. if Pulsar 220 and Avenger have the same engines.. what tuning we can do to Avenger to bring it at par with Pulsar 220? Is it the carb, or Silencer or anything internal? I was wondering if I could get the same performance as P220.
    Experts please put some light on it..

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    Default Re: Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

    Quote Originally Posted by asbshyam View Post

    To replace the ignition system with a Pulsars, what all would've to be changed apart from the CDI ? What about the Reed Assembly, Magento Ignition Coil??

    Any help on this topic is appreciated.

    Thx, Subbu
    Reed assembly?? seriously?? You want to change the reed assembly in a pulsar engine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimpy View Post
    I was wondering.. if Pulsar 220 and Avenger have the same engines.. what tuning we can do to Avenger to bring it at par with Pulsar 220? Is it the carb, or Silencer or anything internal? I was wondering if I could get the same performance as P220.
    Experts please put some light on it..
    Wow never knew pulsar was a 2 stroke and that to provided reed valves with its bikes

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    Default Re: Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

    Quote Originally Posted by asbshyam View Post
    Hi,

    I'm trying to find what differentiates the power/torque delivery between a Pulsar 220 and Avenger 220 Engine.

    They have the exact same bore x stroke spec as per manual. I understand that power to weight ratio, Rear Tyre, Wheelbase, different exhausts are all players, but loss of 2PS of power and almost 2Nm of Torque wouldn't go without any engine tuning.

    I also read that manufacturers quote Power/Torque at the crank, not at the wheel. So the 2PS/2Nm at crank should be attainable ???

    I was told that the difference in power/torque between a Avenger 220 and Pulsar 220 is due to the Ignition System. Any one has any reliable info on this?

    To replace the ignition system with a Pulsars, what all would've to be changed apart from the CDI ? What about the Reed Assembly, Magento Ignition Coil??

    Any help on this topic is appreciated.

    Thx, Subbu
    The inlet & exhaust valves are different
    I seen it personally

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    Default Re: Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

    If you want to upgrade to 21bhp, change the head to a 220 dtsi one with valves n camshaft. Change the carb to a 32mm one. Ignition shd be changed as well.

    And for god's sake get your basics right. At least know the difference between a 2stroke and a 4stroke engine before you go on attempting or posting about modding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black asp View Post
    Wow never knew pulsar was a 2 stroke and that to provided reed valves with its bikes
    Was that reply intended to me? because the reply was totally out of context.

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    Default Re: Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

    Quote Originally Posted by Bibhu View Post
    If you want to upgrade to 21bhp, change the head to a 220 dtsi one with valves n camshaft. Change the carb to a 32mm one. Ignition shd be changed as well.

    And for god's sake get your basics right. At least know the difference between a 2stroke and a 4stroke engine before you go on attempting or posting about modding.

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