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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky View Post
    Dude, I would suggest you keep your Gopro recording away for a while. These could be intolerable for us but there are some security concerns in major metros recently and tech gadgets like these should be avoided if a policeman objects. (usually they don't object but when they do be careful)

    On an aside, I think the police guys have a point, legally speaking- just because there is no law in carrying a video camera on a vehicle that too a bike, one shouldn't assume it is legal. This is left to interpretation and when it comes to that the interpretation of Police is what stands unless challenged in court.
    Show me the law that says that I cannot have a camera on my vehicle or on my person. Under which law does the police get its power to say and make having these cameras on my vehicle or person illegal? The police does not get its power through arbitrariness, there has to be a law passed by the legislative arm for it to have the power to make the said matter illegal. As long as there is no law explicitly prohibiting such practices, the police have no business telling me what to do or not do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abhimanyu31 View Post
    Show me the law that says that I cannot have a camera on my vehicle or on my person. Under which law does the police get its power to say and make having these cameras on my vehicle or person illegal? The police does not get its power through arbitrariness, there has to be a law passed by the legislative arm for it to have the power to make the said matter illegal. As long as there is no law explicitly prohibiting such practices, the police have no business telling me what to do or not do.
    That is true, but, there are places that are a sensitive areas and due to security concerns cameras are not allowed in these places. Since you may not no whether camera is allowed at a specific place or not, it is better to be cautious than raising the ire of police.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmitRavi07 View Post
    That is true, but, there are places that are a sensitive areas and due to security concerns cameras are not allowed in these places. Since you may not no whether camera is allowed at a specific place or not, it is better to be cautious than raising the ire of police.
    I agree.. rather we all here will agree about the sensitive areas restriction.. but isn't there a way of communicating it to the public instead of passing comments like "Terrorist" and threatening us saying we will be put behind bars!! We have to agree on this.. We are just Bikers with the passion who record and click for the lovely memories... I don't think that is illegal..

    and yes, you are right.. we have to be cautious as they will do anything to show their power..
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmitRavi07 View Post
    That is true, but, there are places that are a sensitive areas and due to security concerns cameras are not allowed in these places. Since you may not no whether camera is allowed at a specific place or not, it is better to be cautious than raising the ire of police.
    If you are talking about restricted and protected areas such as Defense institutions and vital installations, it is the Government's and its respective department's obligation to mark such installations clearly and put signs indicating photography is prohibited. In case of a restricted zone, there has to be clear marking of where the said zone starts and where it ends.

    In this case the gentleman in question is not in any of these restricted and protected areas, he is travelling on a public road where there are thousand of people with smart phones in their pockets who can take hours worth of footage. So where is the question of him having violated any law.

    Any cop saying you cannot use a camera in your car or on your person without the force of the requisite law is violating your fundamental rights as enshrined under Constitution of India. In fact at least 2 of the 8 fundamental rights were violated in this case; 1. Right to Freedom and 2. Right to Equality. The whole thing stinks of racism and extortion. Can't believe what we do to our own people, if it was gora they would be grooving to him and bending backward to accommodate him. We point fingers at the west for racism, but the sad thing is that we don't even value the fundamental rights of our fellow country men.
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    Sorry for being away. This thread completely slipped away from my mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Monk View Post
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    There is no restriction on Gopros or camera usage except in places where it is specifically mentioned. It sounds like like plain harassment.
    Thank you for approval.

    Yes, I would say sorry and will not argue in such prohibited area.
    But most of the time it was on Highway and roads only.

    Quote Originally Posted by sparky View Post
    Though I admit they are nuisance sometimes, it is prejudice which makes us paint all police the same- you have no absolutely no idea the kind of work hassles they go through. Legally speaking can you show me where in RTO act does it permit one to equip a motorcycle with a recording device and use it on the streets? We do it because in 99% of the cases it is harmless and the authorities are also reasonable.
    People can record via mobile too if there is seriously some bad intuitions in mind.
    When I'm not using GoPro and there is no bag with me. I simply tilt up the angle to sky, so less visible and no chance of recording, yet they stopped me.


    Quote Originally Posted by eliksir View Post
    Next time, get the whole thing recorded and put it on youtube or facebook. If the police are on social media, alert them too (Don't know about Mumbai, but Bangalore Traffic & L&O commissioners are active on facebook and twitter and reply too).
    Mumbai police does not have an active facebook page even.
    And if I go reporting something personally. I know I will have to face something again.
    But yes now I will record for sure, one way or the other.


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    Believe me, Both of the incidents posted by me are not even complete. The kind of behavior and comments they pass is all because I belong to Delhi.
    I've edited them to a bit better version to not to hurt any feelings of any Maharashtra'ian friend here.

    Sometimes, I do get that feeling "Okay, lets go to Jail or court. Put me behind bars. Call my family and I will tell all the story in court." But they are the Law Forcing people, All they have to add is :
    We tried to stop him, while he started running away after abusing us OR We got weed/ knife/ blah blah shit from his bag.

    They can go to any limit to prove themselves right.

    In most of the cases in 2.5 years, I've always seen the low profile hawaldar and 2-star getting superior to their Ego level. While few good high ranked officers left me after checking papers and talking to me for 2-5 minutes.

    I'm not a Terrorist, nor do I look like one.
    I'm 24 and I hardly look like a normal college guy of 23-24. Not physically big or weird I mean. Still they have their grudges on me for having a Foreign License (Ghaziabad, U.P.) and accent (tone of Hindi).

    There was a time when I was thinking of starting my own channel / blog for sharing all the incidents. But, I never started.
    I don't know maybe I'm a bit lazy or my poor English or the fear of headache I will get after people would start judging me on their own.


    But now every time I go into an argue with them, My limit to speak and argue increases because all of the earlier frustration starts to hit inside my brain. And maybe one day, You'll see me live on some TV or newspaper or somewhere for something.
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    @Sird : There is no need to censor incidents. Sorry for being blunt, but people should know that "racism" is there.
    I have treated everyone just like a normal human being, no matter from where that person belongs.

    Regarding police, I seriously dont give a damn! I am vocal about my thoughts and will remain like that even if disagreeing with them leads me to legal issues.
    If I know I have not done anything wrong, I will stand to my words.

    P.S. : Thanks for the vlog idea, as I am entering vlogging word, I will try to showcase the problems that we (bikers) go through
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    I can beat you all with my incident. This happened few weeks back. I was on my bike going home through a small local road after dropping a friend at his place at about 8 pm. So there was a S shaped turn. And i have to say i have a free flow exhaust. That's wrong in my side. Even with the noise killer, its louder than normal. So cops were waiting for me at the other side of the corner. They stopped me. I had my helmet on. It was a sparx and had a skull picture on the side. So the constable after removing my key asked me to go to the bolero where some other police men were there. So they started scaring me with claims like they are gonna charge me with public nuisance and all. So I asked them politely not to do it and let me go as I was waiting for my visa to go abroad and a case would ruin my future. So i pretty much begged as at that time that was the only option coz i knew i was wrond to make noise during late hours. Then one cop asked me if i am drunk. Since i had cut my leg earlier that day i was limping. So i told them no its because of the cut and not because i was drunk.

    Now comes the best part. One cop then said " dont you drink? Oh only men drink. You are not a man."
    So he was pretty much asking me to start drinking to become a man.

    Hows that???

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    racism is everywhere, and it is bad, but we need to learn how to deal with it.


    in maharashtra, north indians are treated like outsiders.

    in australia, indians get similar treatment.

    only the scale changes.

    we are living in a highly intolerant world, and we are becoming more and more intolerant. sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backlash4u View Post
    I can beat you all with my incident. This happened few weeks back. I was on my bike going home through a small local road after dropping a friend at his place at about 8 pm. So there was a S shaped turn. And i have to say i have a free flow exhaust. That's wrong in my side. Even with the noise killer, its louder than normal. So cops were waiting for me at the other side of the corner. They stopped me. I had my helmet on. It was a sparx and had a skull picture on the side. So the constable after removing my key asked me to go to the bolero where some other police men were there. So they started scaring me with claims like they are gonna charge me with public nuisance and all. So I asked them politely not to do it and let me go as I was waiting for my visa to go abroad and a case would ruin my future. So i pretty much begged as at that time that was the only option coz i knew i was wrond to make noise during late hours. Then one cop asked me if i am drunk. Since i had cut my leg earlier that day i was limping. So i told them no its because of the cut and not because i was drunk.

    Now comes the best part. One cop then said " dont you drink? Oh only men drink. You are not a man."
    So he was pretty much asking me to start drinking to become a man.

    Hows that???

    Wow i just realised i wrote a short story.

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    Default Re: GoPro in India - Illegal ? Crime ? Jail ?

    I too use an action cam, Polaroid XS 100 and its mounted on the helmet always if on a ride but thankfully never have been harassed by police though have been stopped and questioned but always on a lighter note and the police fellows trying to understand why do I have a camera on helmet and explaining that its for capturing rides etc. I have been allowed to go. I too am not a Maharashtrian but probably in a better situation as my bike is MH registered and I can understand and speak few sentences in Marathi then I shift to Hindi.

    Last time the police fellow was actually interested to understand the specs of the cam, megapixels, duration of capture, can it be zoomed etc. but all in a friendly way.
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