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    Quote Originally Posted by VCheng View Post
    May be it is time to petition for a change in the speed limit law for motorcycles of larger capacities in India, at least on highways?
    Speed limit for motorcycles on the highway was recently (legally) set to 80 kmph unless mentioned otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divya Sharan View Post
    Speed limit for motorcycles on the highway was recently (legally) set to 80 kmph unless mentioned otherwise.
    80 kmph is about 50 mph. That is still too low for a country that has Harleys and KTMs and other superbikes around. Above 500cc or so, or may be 50 bhp, the limits should be the same as for a car, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VCheng View Post
    80 kmph is about 50 mph. That is still too low for a country that has Harleys and KTMs and other superbikes around. Above 500cc or so, or may be 50 bhp, the limits should be the same as for a car, IMO.
    As they say, a chain is as strong as the weakest link. Speed limits aren't framed keeping in mind the sharpest braking distances/fastest vehicles, rather a safe limit so that all make vehicles can drive/ride/brake without issues. Roads aren't anyways meant for 100+ kmph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divya Sharan View Post
    As they say, a chain is as strong as the weakest link. Speed limits aren't framed keeping in mind the sharpest braking distances/fastest vehicles, rather a safe limit so that all make vehicles can drive/ride/brake without issues. Roads aren't anyways meant for 100+ kmph.

    I fully appreciate the need for speed limits and their rationale, but the point I was suggesting was to end the discrimination between cars and large displacement motorcycles, to get India in line with a majority of the riding countries, that is all. As the infrastructure improves in India, superbikes could find themselves locked out of motorways and super highways too based on such low limits that do not apply to cars as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VCheng View Post
    I fully appreciate the need for speed limits and their rationale, but the point I was suggesting was to end the discrimination between cars and large displacement motorcycles, to get India in line with a majority of the riding countries, that is all. As the infrastructure improves in India, superbikes could find themselves locked out of motorways and super highways too based on such low limits that do not apply to cars as well.
    I understand your point. But what India needs the most is road sense. With all living organisms ambling around incoherently on the highway, it would be dangerous.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Divya Sharan View Post
    I understand your point. But what India needs the most is road sense. With all living organisms ambling around incoherently on the highway, it would be dangerous.


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    LOL! I know exactly what you are talking about. My first 100,000 km of riding were in South Asia and the PTSD from those days still continues! :P

    (But then again, we know what we do is dangerous on a motorbike, and yet we still do it.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkknight View Post
    finally it all comes down to individual -- personal example--when we first attempted BB in 2010 after a point crossing banglore we understood that the next journey required us to complete 1000 kms in 10 hours--stopped ,dropped the plan and slept off
    next year in 2011 saw us with better readiness and we were successful as first group in India to complete the BB
    Reviving a very old but definitely relevant thread, But i realized the importance of the above words recently.
    Sadly, I don't heed advice easily and often land up in trouble. But sometimes the outcomes are overambitious too. Sadly the ratio is highly skewed towards landing in trouble part.
    I have long quit long distance biking. especially after marriage when i realized that suddenly, life has become even more valuable. Now i mostly drive since it is inherently safe. so all the below is regarding cars. But the topic of building endurance and understanding your limits still stays.
    Last year I had a road trip to Ooty. on return, a decision was made to skip the stay in Bangalore and drive to pune overnight. Now this is a 20 hr drive!
    Now, i have done a 28 hr ride in my biking days, and a 24 hr drive too. So this didn't seem any risk to an OVERCONFIENT ME. On the way back, somehwere near kolhapur, a dog stood in our path while my car was doing stupid speeds. A "trying to avoid maneuver" moment later, scraped the carcass of the poor dog off the highway. Completely shaken, finally reached Pune by 4.30 am.
    Now this seems like a normal incident. however, a review on the dash cam clearly revealed that the dog was visible for a sufficient time for me to take evasive measures, but i didn't until the moment of impact. What actually must have happened is weakening of the reflexes and me not reacting on time.
    Now, i might be lucky to being able to drive off to destination after this, but if the dog is replaced by a human, i wouldn't be typing this message since jails dont have internet.

    I have since learnt to cut my teeth, and accept the fact that i am a human. I have learned to think twice before attempting such feats.
    You might walk away from an incident, but somebody could never ever get up. Or If karma catches up, YOU might never wake up.

    So live to ride / drive another day, assess the repercussions of your decision before you act on it. especially ones in which the risks are evident.
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    Totally agree at this point. Valuable advice too.
    Quote Originally Posted by ROCKRZ View Post
    Reviving a very old but definitely relevant thread, But i realized the importance of the above words recently.
    Sadly, I don't heed advice easily and often land up in trouble. But sometimes the outcomes are overambitious too. Sadly the ratio is highly skewed towards landing in trouble part.
    I have long quit long distance biking. especially after marriage when i realized that suddenly, life has become even more valuable. Now i mostly drive since it is inherently safe. so all the below is regarding cars. But the topic of building endurance and understanding your limits still stays.
    Last year I had a road trip to Ooty. on return, a decision was made to skip the stay in Bangalore and drive to pune overnight. Now this is a 20 hr drive!
    Now, i have done a 28 hr ride in my biking days, and a 24 hr drive too. So this didn't seem any risk to an OVERCONFIENT ME. On the way back, somehwere near kolhapur, a dog stood in our path while my car was doing stupid speeds. A "trying to avoid maneuver" moment later, scraped the carcass of the poor dog off the highway. Completely shaken, finally reached Pune by 4.30 am.
    Now this seems like a normal incident. however, a review on the dash cam clearly revealed that the dog was visible for a sufficient time for me to take evasive measures, but i didn't until the moment of impact. What actually must have happened is weakening of the reflexes and me not reacting on time.
    Now, i might be lucky to being able to drive off to destination after this, but if the dog is replaced by a human, i wouldn't be typing this message since jails dont have internet.

    I have since learnt to cut my teeth, and accept the fact that i am a human. I have learned to think twice before attempting such feats.
    You might walk away from an incident, but somebody could never ever get up. Or If karma catches up, YOU might never wake up.

    So live to ride / drive another day, assess the repercussions of your decision before you act on it. especially ones in which the risks are evident.

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