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    Quote Originally Posted by shoeb2015 View Post
    Will that puny stator be able to support a 55/60 halo ? It alone draws about 4.5 -5 amps.+ other loads.
    I suggest you to change the acc. bulbs to led so that you will be saving a lot of power.
    Don't touch the pulse generator.
    Yes the stock alternator is able to switch on & run the 55/60watt halogen , though it took 1 second to start first & then around half second to switch between high & low beams . But light is not glow to its full extent but good spread than the previous stock 35 watt halogen .

    Yes i am going to change all bulbs to leds / smd leds , but confused with the wiring changes from alternator to pulsar ug4 rr & then from it to battery & headlight .

    Quote Originally Posted by sajjt View Post
    I guess there's some confusion, u've rewinded the alt coil with fresh wire and both the ends should be connected to the new RR. Both ends are free from the stator body right? Or did u connect one end to the body like in the stock coil? It has to be floated ie; both ends to the RR only, no groundings, no tappings to anywhere. No play around the pulse coil, it should be as it is in the stock, if u do something out of the way, ur bike wont fire.

    Typical wiring diagram can be found in the universal thread for DC conv. Shreeni had given my wiring diagram there too.

    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universa...ke-all-dc.html




    With ur 3 pole alternator and a small battery, 35W halo is the best bet for testing, 55W will be an overkill for ur system. If the system can take 55W halo, surely it can take a 55W HID too.
    No changes to the alternator , wiring , rr are done yet , it is as stock . Just putted a 55/60 w halogen instead of stock , which took 1 second to glow at first & a half second to switch between high & low beam .

    Also no rewinding option available here ( as i said before ) , so i just need to unground the grounded wire & connect both wires to pulsar ug4 rr input & output from it to the battery & headlight as before in previous stock connection .
    Correct me if i am wrong or missing something .

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoeb2015 View Post
    @ sajjt
    Can I connect the two wires from lighting coil and two wires from battery coil together and then connect it to new RR ?
    (haven't opened the stator coil yet).Pls clarify.
    Its not going to work on parallel instead, find out the coils are in series and check whether its in CW & ACW fashion at the end of one coil and the start of the other coil. If its like that, it can be connected in series and take the two wire end to the RR after ungrounding it. U can check with a sprare one for clarification.


    Quote Originally Posted by Above_All View Post
    Yes the stock alternator is able to switch on & run the 55/60watt halogen , though it took 1 second to start first & then around half second to switch between high & low beams . But light is not glow to its full extent but good spread than the previous stock 35 watt halogen .
    If its not able to glow fully in AC its not an issue but it makes a huge difference in DC, it will hog the battery like anything and it will get fried within minutes unless the charging rates are lower than the demand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Above_All View Post
    Yes i am going to change all bulbs to leds / smd leds , but confused with the wiring changes from alternator to pulsar ug4 rr & then from it to battery & headlight .
    Good thought for saving the battery power

    Whats ur confusion? Its all the same with APE RR and UG4 RR, Its the blue wire for AC input (IIRC) and yellow for batt +, black -ve.

    Are u able to follow the wiring that I've posted? U also use a SPDT relay instead of using 2 SPST relays.

    Quote Originally Posted by Above_All View Post
    No changes to the alternator , wiring , rr are done yet , it is as stock . Just putted a 55/60 w halogen instead of stock , which took 1 second to glow at first & a half second to switch between high & low beam .

    Also no rewinding option available here ( as i said before ) , so i just need to unground the grounded wire & connect both wires to pulsar ug4 rr input & output from it to the battery & headlight as before in previous stock connection .
    Correct me if i am wrong or missing something .
    Yes, u missed the main part: rewinding Its hard to get the full intensity for 55W.

    Re route the head light supply wire from the ign battery switch like in the diagram else, ur bulb will glow even if u switch off the bike.

    Use relays for better performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sajjt View Post
    Yes, u missed the main part: rewinding Its hard to get the full intensity for 55W.

    Re route the head light supply wire from the ign battery switch like in the diagram else, ur bulb will glow even if u switch off the bike.
    I am using 35w so am not rewinding (As for now).I will rewind when i go for higher wattage.

    Is that ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sajjt View Post
    If its not able to glow fully in AC its not an issue but it makes a huge difference in DC, it will hog the battery like anything and it will get fried within minutes unless the charging rates are lower than the demand.
    Whats ur confusion? Its all the same with APE RR and UG4 RR, Its the blue wire for AC input (IIRC) and yellow for batt +, black -ve.
    Are u able to follow the wiring that I've posted? U also use a SPDT relay instead of using 2 SPST relays.
    Yes, u missed the main part: rewinding Its hard to get the full intensity for 55W.
    Re route the head light supply wire from the ign battery switch like in the diagram else, ur bulb will glow even if u switch off the bike.
    Use relays for better performance.
    Quote Originally Posted by shoeb2015 View Post
    I am using 35w so am not rewinding (As for now).I will rewind when i go for higher wattage.
    Is that ok?
    Sajit yesterday went to bajaj spare house asked them for Pulsar UG4 RR , they give me a green colour RR with 6 wires ( 2 are gray , 2 blue , 1 yellow & 1 black ) , Asked them is there anything other also , then he shown a same size RR gray in colour having all those 6 wires but a different socket .
    I excepted that UG4 RR should have only 4 wires two for input ( to connect output of alternator ) & two for battery connection . Is the rr shown by me is UG 4 or not ?

    & as shoeb said if i stick to 35 watt halogen or HID is then rewinding necessary ? & instead of those 2 SPST relay or single SPDT relay if i use a headlight relay from bosh or other is that be ok .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Above_All View Post
    Sajit yesterday went to bajaj spare house asked them for Pulsar UG4 RR , they give me a green colour RR with 6 wires ( 2 are gray , 2 blue , 1 yellow & 1 black ) , Asked them is there anything other also , then he shown a same size RR gray in colour having all those 6 wires but a different socket .
    I excepted that UG4 RR should have only 4 wires two for input ( to connect output of alternator ) & two for battery connection . Is the rr shown by me is UG 4 or not ?

    & as shoeb said if i stick to 35 watt halogen or HID is then rewinding necessary ? & instead of those 2 SPST relay or single SPDT relay if i use a headlight relay from bosh or other is that be ok .
    How much did it cost dude ?
    Just a guess -
    gray wires are for ac input and yellow for +ve and black for gnd.
    2 blue wires -????

    Can you upload a picture and the part no ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoeb2015 View Post
    How much did it cost dude ?
    Just a guess -
    gray wires are for ac input and yellow for +ve and black for gnd.
    2 blue wires -????

    Can you upload a picture and the part no ?
    Sorry i haven't snapped any pic of it as i think its not the part we looking & not asked them price too , instead i asked them is this the correct pulsar ug4 rr . tomorrow will go & snap them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Above_All View Post
    instead of those 2 SPST relay or single SPDT relay if i use a headlight relay from bosh or other is that be ok .
    Don't worry about the relays ,I will explain it to you in a very easy method using automotive relays which cost about 40rs (max 20amps).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Above_All View Post
    Sajit yesterday went to bajaj spare house asked them for Pulsar UG4 RR , they give me a green colour RR with 6 wires ( 2 are gray , 2 blue , 1 yellow & 1 black ) , Asked them is there anything other also , then he shown a same size RR gray in colour having all those 6 wires but a different socket .
    I excepted that UG4 RR should have only 4 wires two for input ( to connect output of alternator ) & two for battery connection . Is the rr shown by me is UG 4 or not ?

    & as shoeb said if i stick to 35 watt halogen or HID is then rewinding necessary ? & instead of those 2 SPST relay or single SPDT relay if i use a headlight relay from bosh or other is that be ok .
    Confirmed.
    I Checked the service manual and it is a UG3 Regulator unit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Above_All View Post
    Sajit yesterday went to bajaj spare house asked them for Pulsar UG4 RR , they give me a green colour RR with 6 wires ( 2 are gray , 2 blue , 1 yellow & 1 black ) , Asked them is there anything other also , then he shown a same size RR gray in colour having all those 6 wires but a different socket .
    I excepted that UG4 RR should have only 4 wires two for input ( to connect output of alternator ) & two for battery connection . Is the rr shown by me is UG 4 or not ?

    & as shoeb said if i stick to 35 watt halogen or HID is then rewinding necessary ? & instead of those 2 SPST relay or single SPDT relay if i use a headlight relay from bosh or other is that be ok .
    I guess its a mistake.


    This is the one I was refferring to, which is a P135 RR but P150/180/XCD all were the same when I saw 1.5 yrs back. Sorry have'nt updated recently. Blue wires for AC input, white for batt + and black & yellow striped obviously ground.

    Quote Originally Posted by shoeb2015 View Post
    Confirmed.
    I Checked the service manual and it is a UG3 Regulator unit
    Thanks for the prompt update and clarification.
    Last edited by sajjt; 11-14-2011 at 03:58 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sajjt View Post
    I guess its a mistake.


    This is the one I was refferring to, which is a P135 RR but P150/180/XCD all were the same when I saw 1.5 yrs back. Sorry have'nt updated recently. Blue wires for AC input, white for batt + and black & yellow striped obviously ground.



    Thanks for the prompt update and clarification.
    Hey sajjt can you specify some details about pulsar UG4

    1.Number of poles
    2.capacity of battery( in Ah)
    3.max output of coil(stock)(in amps &watts)
    4.Max output of RR.
    5.Total current demand.

    Whats the part number of RR ?
    Last edited by shoeb2015; 12-26-2011 at 08:04 PM.

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