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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda_CBF View Post
    i have also observed that on my 125cc. But one doubt, have heard (believed too) that good oil will clean engine and catch unwanted things better and turn dark(er) sooner.
    Have used valvoline champ, it starts turning dark only after 1.5k kms. Though oil's performance was very good.
    Have used shell vsx (now known as ax7) it turned almost black after 500kms. This oil also performed very good.
    Have used oem Honda 20w40 oil. It starts tuning dark after 500km and bike asks me to change oil after 1.2k kms and oil is not black but brownish.
    And once power1 caused my tappets to be heard in just 500kms or so. I think it was fake oil.
    From where does this carbon comes from when you are changing oil regularly? Its a oil degradant mostly.
    Read experiences of ppl using FS oils.. all have to say that oil started to become dark brown after around 2000 kms and was working fine till 4000-5000 kms. Oil becoming very dark in less than 500 kms on a fairly young bike is oil issue/clearance issue. The same bike will not show similar oil darkening in FS oils.

    All oil (used in petrol engines) comes with 0.5-2% dispersants. FS oil contain more dispersants. Mineral turns black sooner but FS doesnt.
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    This is a real shocker, in such cases, can we carry our own engine oil bought from a trusted source to the SVCs? Rather change the oil ourselves and get the rest of the job done later.

    More importantly, if you are very sure of this Mal-practice and that it was not a one-off case, get some solid proofs and report to Yamaha. Write to the engine oil company as well, is it Motul?
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    I change it by myself, but purchase the oil from them only. But now i would go for full synthetic oil for R15.

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    for my friends commenting about standing next to the bike while servicing.
    whats the guarantee that the sealed oil bottle wont contain counterfeit oil

    keeping in mind, there is a big racket behind it, backed up by some shady company, for whom sealing the oil bottle wont be a big deal

    these companies, clean the old oil + mix some new genuine oil, even if you look at the color, its hard to make out if its fake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda_CBF View Post
    that's bad. Always stay with your bike and make sure they use new sealed can of engine oil.
    i get my bike serviced by the SVC guy but outside at his home....i change the engine oil myself at home....i let the oil drip whole night

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    Quote Originally Posted by abdulsheikh007 View Post
    for my friends commenting about standing next to the bike while servicing.
    whats the guarantee that the sealed oil bottle wont contain counterfeit oil
    call up the yamaha CC and tell you issue and ask them about the case where you are entitled to provide your own oil with the clause of preserving the warranty!
    if they dont agree,ask for immediate action against the particular SVC
    Our bikes can go from 0 - Stupid in less than "I wonder if this will be a good idea"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ariendj View Post
    call up the yamaha CC and tell you issue and ask them about the case where you are entitled to provide your own oil with the clause of preserving the warranty!
    if they dont agree,ask for immediate action against the particular SVC
    the problem is even i complain, i don't have any concrete proof about their activity.
    they would simply refuse such act.

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    hey Abdul,

    Your doubt is very genuine and as far as the reliability on the quality of oil goes, its a tough game.

    Going by feasible practical approach, inspecting the oil in clear glass/plastic bottle is the best approach. Suspended particles, small greasy chunks are signs of oil pilferage. The best option is to carry the oil that you are sure of along to the svc station.

    Viscosity testing and other methods of testing oil genuineness is absolutely not a viable option for Indian bikers for now.

    Prevention (avoiding shoddy svc centre/mechanics/oil dealers) is better than cure.
    Safe riding prolongs life (bike & rider & public)

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    Wish we can get something like in India soon.
    Safe riding prolongs life (bike & rider & public)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prith View Post
    Wish we can get something like in India soon.
    wow this is something..

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