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    I have planned to try oil with the next set., whatever it may be.But., what if the cost of a O-ring is thrice or more than a normal chain (heard, it is)and it lasts only double the distance.,that's kinda pointless., right??
    O RING chains are generally provided on those bikes which run half chain , they are bit more resistant too wear and tear as compared to normal x ring chains , but they are a mechanical power transmission component after all and not lubing or jerking it (wheelies or stunts ) drastically drops its life , so lubing it is as necessary as filling ur bike with petrol .

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    Quote Originally Posted by antz.bin View Post
    If more wear and tear means that O-Ring chain on my bike lasts ~25k km per set (instead of 10k in this case), I would definitely vote for O-Ring
    LOL! being a bit too greedy aint we? ;-)
    the o-rings usually last approx 1.5 times more & sustain better in terms of retaining the original slack.
    but taking it from 10k to 25k is trying to be too ambitious i.m.h.o. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divya Sharan View Post

    I'm not sure if DIAMOND makes CBR's set, but ROLON does.

    BTW, my bike has a normal chain, not O-ring.
    Thanks for that headsup.
    'll look out for Rolon.

    Everyone, saying that their chain set lasted to ~15k atleast.
    I wonder what's wrong with mine to wear out too earlier.
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    My duke's chainset went off at 11000km mark. Weird after regular lubricating and cleaning except few 2/3 cases where i may have used dry for a while for few 60/70kms max.

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    O-ring chains do not need any lubrication per se for their lifetime . The o-rings are there for just that - so that the superior factory filled grease is sealed in inside the pins and bush (where most of the chain wear occurs) and stays there . 25k kms is not unreasonable for it's lifetime . Only maintenance it needs is a light cleaning and a light lubricant , just to keep the rubber o-rings supple and prevent them wearing and cracking .
    Don't overdo the cleaning and lubrication things with o-ring chains . Never clean them too vigorously or brush them hard or drench them in solvent like petrol etc or let them pressure wash it at service center . The problem in doing these is that you can easily scrub up and damage/deform the soft rubber o-rings , or work in the dirt/water past the rings into the sealed area and dilute, contaminate or remove the factory grease . Another problem is that not all local/service mechanics are aware of the special care to be taken while servicing bikes with uncovered o-ring chains - and continue to do stupid things like using a wire brush to clean it ( I have actually seen this) . Loosing even one of the rings means that that particular link shall wear very rapidly and require you to replace the entire chain . No need for heavy lube like SAE90 gear oil too . The stickier the lube you use , the more grit shall stick on to the rubber o-rings (particularly on an uncovered chain) and cause them to wear by abrasion .
    The downside to o-ring chains is those rubber rings introduce a little drag into the drive train .
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    +1 to Pinaki Sir reply
    Actually it also depends upon the riding style. Since these being the main and only power transfer device of the bike. If you ride hard and pull the bike to a quick acceleration, the chain undergoes stress and expands. Since O-ring chains are continous type(i.e) link cannot be removed. After the full adjustment of the back wheel. We have to replace the chain set. I have changed my set at 13K. Even though I regular clean and lub the chain. Since I drive hard the life of the chain set also is less. Hence it depends upon your riding style. This is mainly for the O-ring chains for normal chains we can remove the link and the life can be extended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by accuengineer View Post
    +1 to Pinaki Sir reply
    Actually it also depends upon the riding style. Since these being the main and only power transfer device of the bike. If you ride hard and pull the bike to a quick acceleration, the chain undergoes stress and expands. Since O-ring chains are continous type(i.e) link cannot be removed. After the full adjustment of the back wheel. We have to replace the chain set. I have changed my set at 13K. Even though I regular clean and lub the chain. Since I drive hard the life of the chain set also is less. Hence it depends upon your riding style. This is mainly for the O-ring chains for normal chains we can remove the link and the life can be extended.

    Cheers.

    Mathews
    10K seems less to me too. Mathew, I believe if we remove the link in a normal set, the chain length can be reduced but a worn out sprocket is still a bad sign. Hence we would still have to replace the set. Don't you think so?

    @neevarp16:
    I own a normal set of rolon chain and have done 13K km with rev range from 6k to 8K. My chain sprocket set can last another few thousand km.
    Since normal chains depend on the lubrication we do, travelling at speeds means oil doesn't stick long enough and needs frequent lubrication and I follow that not to let chain dry out.

    However I believe in this case, an o-ring chain is present on your cbr150, which needs very very less care. Just washing the chain to make sure dirt and grit is not present is enough and lubrication once in 500km is also good but not too much. I think soaking the o-ring chain in kerosine is bad idea since kerosine or wd-40 seeps through the rubber seal and removes the inner layer of lubrication present in the rings. The reason the sprocket could have worn out due to improper rear wheel adjutment when setting chain slack!
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    Quote Originally Posted by whymail View Post
    Just FYI, all Pulsar's & Avenger's are on O-rings.
    Hehe yeah and people say p150 and p135 dont have o-rings.....but the service manual and parts catalogue clearly mentionts it as said by service personnel

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    Quote Originally Posted by prajnyan View Post
    Mathew, I believe if we remove the link in a normal set, the chain length can be reduced but a worn out sprocket is still a bad sign. Hence we would still have to replace the set. Don't you think so?
    Dont remove links from the chain and ride the bike. My mechanic did it on my spendor and I rode that for another 20-25K kms, but after joining xbhp, realised that it was a big MISTAKE.

    If the chain is not getting tightened, it has lost nearly all its usable life.

    What I have experienced with these open chains, if you dont lubricate them often, they die too soon. Ride when you see shiny lubricant on the chain. If you dont see that, put the shiny fluid (called lubricant ) and then start riding. Even after doing all this, I can see two three sprockets damaged after 14K on the odo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by muztariq View Post
    Dont remove links from the chain and ride the bike. My mechanic did it on my spendor and I rode that for another 20-25K kms, but after joining xbhp, realised that it was a big MISTAKE.

    If the chain is not getting tightened, it has lost nearly all its usable life.

    What I have experienced with these open chains, if you dont lubricate them often, they die too soon. Ride when you see shiny lubricant on the chain. If you dont see that, put the shiny fluid (called lubricant ) and then start riding. Even after doing all this, I can see two three sprockets damaged after 14K on the odo!

    Dan's Motorcycle "The Rear Chain"

    Exactly my point!

    Its never safe once the chain or sprocket is worn out. And replacing entire set should be the best option for long run.
    There are no short-cuts to any place worth going. So ride safe when you are treading uncharted roads.

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