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    Default Avenger 200 : Queries

    today i had been to the nearest probiking place. i wanted to get a feel of the Avenger 200. and basically feel of a bajaj engine. i have never experienced a pulsar or avenger. i have only ridden a rx 135 over the past 12 years.

    so there is this brand spanking new Avenger with just 4 kms on the odo. he agrees to give me a test ride on the road.(the dyno wasn't there. test ride on L.B.S. Marg, Kanjur Marg stretch, which is nice and relatively empty in the afternoons). the test ride itself was a short one though, just about a km.

    (to those of you who are particular, i did not anywhere near rip or abuse the bike. i was very gentle, i think more than required in fact. i would never do that to a new bike, in case some other poor bloke ends up buying it.)

    I came away from the test ride very confused. these were my observations.


    1. the bike felt extremely sluggish. kind of as if the engine is smothered and not able to move.
    2. i could feel no sense of rhythm or specific pattern in the exhaust note.
    3. i was expecting some decent pulling power, it being 200 cc and all that, but i couldn't feel it.
    4. gear shifts were bad.

    so these are my basic queries :

    1. was i in fact too gentle with the accelerator ? does the 200 engine need some firm acceleration to be provided by the rider, which i was not doing ?
    2. was it because it was a brand new bike and not broken it at all ? this is what the showroom guy said when i enquired. he said once it opens up, it'll be much more free. i do understand the concept, having broken in new vehicles before, but i wasn't expecting it to be this tight.

    i mean after the test ride, when i got back on my rx 135, my bike felt like a damn rocket on rails greased with butter. and my rx is not in that good shape to begin with.

    would appreciate if experienced fellow members here would enlighten me.

    thanks and regards.

    p.s.
    there is hardly any information on the avenger. was this lost too, due to the crash ?

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    @hell_gilder: this reply comes from a owner of a 200 Avenger

    comparing an avenger to a RX 135 is not a fair compare
    Rx 135 is a 2 two stroke city bike with high torque & avenger is a crusier meant comfortable drives with low torque

    coming to your observations
    1. nope bike is not sluggish,test bike seems to be @ fault..engine does get better after first service & a oil change
    2. "i could feel no sense of rhythm or specific pattern in the exhaust note."
    ^^^ dont know what you meant here
    3. gear shifts were bad .... again ??? yes avenger does have the problem of a neutral,some people complain of not being able to find nuetral things is people dont complete the shift & try bring directly from say 3rd or 2nd to nuetral... that the way things dont work,its one drop @ a time. i guess coming over a RX Gear to Bajaj Gear Box has taken a Toll on you

    any day a Yamaha Gear is better designed from a Bajaj Gear Box thing with bajaj is ... you will take some time to get used to it ... say 100 kms (thats wat i took)... now really comfortable

    engine does get better after the runin (2000 Kms).... i am sure this will be same views of other avenger owners here like Speed Pujari

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    thanks for your inputs arvind.

    Quote Originally Posted by arvindraju View Post
    @hell_gilder: this reply comes from a owner of a 200 Avenger

    comparing an avenger to a RX 135 is not a fair compare
    i completely understand and agree. my rx-135 is obiously very free revving. but thats what i mentioned in my post. i did not expect the Avenger to be as free-revving. but would the difference really be that much. it felt really tight.i hope i am describing this properly. can't think of a better way.

    Quote Originally Posted by arvindraju View Post
    Rx 135 is a 2 two stroke city bike with high torque & avenger is a crusier meant comfortable drives with low torque
    don't you mean its the other way round ?? the avenger should be much higher on torque.

    Quote Originally Posted by arvindraju View Post
    2. "i could feel no sense of rhythm or specific pattern in the exhaust note."
    ^^^ dont know what you meant here
    exactly that arvind. the exhaust wasn't sounding clean. it was a extremely muffled sound. every exhaust has a particular beat and rhythm right ??? well..i couldn't feel that.

    Quote Originally Posted by arvindraju View Post
    3. gear shifts were bad .... again ??? yes avenger does have the problem of a neutral,some people complain of not being able to find nuetral things is people dont complete the shift & try bring directly from say 3rd or 2nd to nuetral... that the way things dont work,its one drop @ a time. i guess coming over a RX Gear to Bajaj Gear Box has taken a Toll on you

    any day a Yamaha Gear is better designed from a Bajaj Gear Box
    fair enough. can accept that.

    yeah..i am looking forward to speedpujari's inputs as well. i saw a photo of his bike here. seems really well maintained and spanking clean. plus, as per the photo, it looks like he does a good number of trips on his bike. given that is why i am looking at the Avenger, his inputs will be useful too.

    lets see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hell_glider View Post
    exactly that arvind. the exhaust wasn't sounding clean. it was a extremely muffled sound. every exhaust has a particular beat and rhythm right ??? well..i couldn't feel that.
    most bajaj Avengers i have seen comes with 20w40 oils which is not recommended 20w40 oil was poured into my engine after first service

    i had it drained & got a 20w50 oil... engine is way better now will get better with more drives

    also most common complaint in the avenger is vibration (mirror @ high speed) even with a showroom stock bike,needs a good mechanic who can fix this ... with the fixing done no known issues on the bike

    Few other points:

    chain
    on the avenger is slightly difficult to maintain (thicker & bigger than the pulsar),with a diesel wash,cleaned with motul chain cleaner & motul lube will keep the chain away from dust & in good condition

    Avenger is one with a lot of chrome,people in coastal areas have a complain of rust..get your bike treated with Acf-50 www.acf-50.co.uk/acf50.htm,you will have no issues with rust

    Stock Bulb is not good,go for the philips Extreme power.,you will light up the road

    apart from that no other modifications are required,its the best budget crusier available in india
    Last edited by arvindraju; 05-31-2009 at 02:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arvindraju View Post
    chain on the avenger is slightly difficult to maintain (thicker & bigger than the pulsar),with a diesel wash,cleaned with motul chain cleaner & motul lube will keep the engine away from dust & in good condition
    Chain has got nothing to do with the engine buddy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by insanebiker View Post
    Chain has got nothing to do with the engine buddy!
    sorry

    i meant chain edited now

    excuse me for that

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    can any body tell me the actual numerical value of torque that rx 135 produce !

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    I recently sold my Pulsar 180 classic and am getting the new Avenger tomorrow! Need some last minute suggestions!

    Will my new bike come with 20W40 oil when I take the delivery? Should I get it changed with 20W50 (Castrol Activ X-tra) right then and there?

    Where can I find Philips X-treme Power in Bangalore? Is it really worth changing from the stock ones?

    Do I really need to follow the speed-limits during the run-in? A friend told me that these days most bikes come with seasoned engines, so maintaining speed limits initially is not required...any thoughts about this?

    How many kms can I ride at a stretch without giving my bike some rest/stop? And finally, your thoughts on getting a rear disc brakes on this bike...?

    Looking forward to your replies!

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    @ipilot777: Yes, your bike will come with the standard oil grade mentioned in the manual. I recommend sticking to that for the run-in period of 2K kms. After that, you can switch over to a suitable synth/semi-synth as per your preference.

    Yes, you need to follow speed&RPM restrictions during running in. It is very crucial to the life and smoothness of your engine. The instructions will be written down in the manual.
    Anything out of the manual is subjective!

    Since new engines are much more prone to over heating, I suggest you stop your new vehicle once in every 50 kms. or so.

    About rear disc brake, I feel it doesn't make much of a difference as the drum brakes work fine. Moreover I am not in favor of aftermarket mods. If you like to mod your new vehicle, it is upto you.

    @hell_glider: Test rides vehicles don't feel too good. I suggest you take a test ride of a well run in Avy 200&then decide. In any case it will not be as free&high revving as your Yam, but since it is supposed to be a cruiser, you will really like its nature once it crosses 65-70kmph.
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