Thread: Pick your most anticipated bike of the year 2013

although of all the bikes mentioned in the poll, i like ninja300 the most, but since i will not be able to buy it for its price, the most awaited bike for me is pulsar375, and since most probably i will buy a new bike in jan, i am eagerly awaiting for more details to emerge about P375.

Originally Posted by pravin.murthy

For all you power to weight fans...

CBR500R - 54.7 Ps / 175 kgs dry weight = 313 Ps/ ton

Duke390 - 43.5 Ps / 139 kgs dry weight = 313 Ps/ ton

Hows that...

What is the source of your data? It is wrong ... !!

The CBR500R weighs 193 Kgs and the ABS version is about 3 Kgs heavier.

If we *assume* that it makes the 54.7 PS that you saying the P/W Ratio falls to 283, and most of the other non-confirmed non-official sources say that its around 47 PS, the P/W Ratio falls down to 249!

Hows that ...

Originally Posted by Praful

What is the source of your data? It is wrong ... !!

The CBR500R weighs 193 Kgs and the ABS version is about 3 Kgs heavier.

If we *assume* that it makes the 54.7 PS that you saying the P/W Ratio falls to 283, and most of the other non-confirmed non-official sources say that its around 47 PS, the P/W Ratio falls down to 249!

Hows that ...

First of all Im not a believer in all this power to weight thing. There have been proofs of this being a non sense in our own country.

However clarifying your reply, 193kgs is the Kerb weight my friend not the dry weight. I had clearly mentioned in my previous post saying its dry weight and not with all the fluids in.

The power to weight ratio universally is always calculated on the dry weight of the bike and not the kerb weight (dont know for what reason though!!)

A CBR with 47 Ps is more than enough to belt the KTM anyways... However as mentioned earlier.. India should get the unrestricted version as there are no power restrictions in our country for any purpose.

Originally Posted by Praful

What is the source of your data? It is wrong ... !!

The CBR500R weighs 193 Kgs and the ABS version is about 3 Kgs heavier.

If we *assume* that it makes the 54.7 PS that you saying the P/W Ratio falls to 283, and most of the other non-confirmed non-official sources say that its around 47 PS, the P/W Ratio falls down to 249!

Hows that ...

Well dont be dreaming of unofficial Honda figures of 47bhp!! Its already confirmed and below is the link

CBR500R | Honda/2013

However please note that this is just the European version... I know you wont beleive me... look at the top right corner to see the country and drop down the list to see the other countries where these specs are applicable....

Originally Posted by Praful

What is the source of your data? It is wrong ... !!

The CBR500R weighs 193 Kgs and the ABS version is about 3 Kgs heavier.

If we *assume* that it makes the 54.7 PS that you saying the P/W Ratio falls to 283, and most of the other non-confirmed non-official sources say that its around 47 PS, the P/W Ratio falls down to 249!

Hows that ...

I have already produced the source for the Duke's claim. If youve not seen it here it is:-

KTM 390 Duke ABS 2013 - Technische Daten

This is the Austrian website.. The KTM's home country one...

@pravin: learn to use multi quotes, its not that difficult.

Originally Posted by princesirohi

@pravin: learn to use multi quotes, its not that difficult.

Hi mate, Sure... will start doing it from the next time around...

Thanks MG for changing the Ps data on the Poll

I will wait for the official figures of the CBR unrestricted to change it further though

Eagerly waiting for announcement from honda india.......... booking open for CBR500r

I'm waiting for the new pulsar! The only bike within my reach! Also, principally because, it's the only one from an indigenous manufacturer.

OT :

Originally Posted by pravin.murthy

First of all Im not a believer in all this power to weight thing. There have been proofs of this being a non sense in our own country.

I would like to know the base of this bro. I really would. Please explain. And link me to these proofs. I'd like to read/ watch them.

Sent from my WT19i

Lets not get into too much details of power.. its more speculation.. when we dont even know whether the bike will actully step on Indian soil.

Just made a quote out of this discussion - Misinformed is also informed!

Originally Posted by princesirohi

although of all the bikes mentioned in the poll, i like ninja300 the most, but since i will not be able to buy it for its price, the most awaited bike for me is pulsar375, and since most probably i will buy a new bike in jan, i am eagerly awaiting for more details to emerge about P375.

My thinking is almost similar to ur terms, but I am more than sure that P375 is'nt gonna come as soon as Jan. It will surely be late 2013, or high probability of 2014.
On the other hand, the next launch from Pulsar stable should be the rumored P200 SS (somehow no one is taking about it)

I am a faired bike lover, but I had to contend myself with the NS, since i couldn't remain bike-less any further. And truly speaking, i am loving it, and actually there is a new born love for the naked bikes as well, after riding it.. But as a 2nd bike in the garage, i will surely go with a faired bike.
I liked the N300 very much, right from the day it came up on the net.. But i too guess that it will be over-priced compared to the competition. Was never a fan of Honda, and though the specs of Duke 390 is mind blowing, don't like it's design..
So, the next feasible option comes P375.. Hope, it doesn't arrive as a naked version!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( but my instinct says it will be another naked one)

Originally Posted by madhav766

I'm waiting for the new pulsar! The only bike within my reach! Also, principally because, it's the only one from an indigenous manufacturer.

OT :



I would like to know the base of this bro. I really would. Please explain. And link me to these proofs. I'd like to read/ watch them.

Sent from my WT19i

Sure, let me give you an example.

Honda CBR 250R - 25.3Ps/ 167kg (Kerb weight)

KTM Duke 200 - 25Ps/ 136kg (Kerb Weight)

Bajaj Pulsar 200 NS - 23.5Ps/ 145kg (kerb weight)

So the power to weight for these bikes is like this:-

CBR - 151 Ps/ton; Duke - 184 Ps/ton; Pulsar - 162 Ps/ton.

So looking at these figures its easy to conclude the Duke is much faster than the other 2 and the Pulsar is considerably quicker than CBR too.

However below are the cumulative figures achieved by the bikes in the most scientific way of testing these machines by the best mags in the country using V Box DGPS equipment:-

Acceleration:-

0-60 km/h - CBR - 3.5 secs; Duke - 3.7 secs; Pulsar - 4.0 secs

0-100 km/h - CBR - 8.9 secs; Duke - 9.3 secs; Pulsar - 10.9 secs

Top Speed - CBR - 148 km/h; Duke - 133 km/h; Pulsar - 129 km/h


The above figures are average of Mags - Overdrive; Autocar and Bike India.


These are clear indications of superiority of the CBR in performance over the Duke and Pulsar.

When it comes to in gear times or roll ons in a particular gear, Duke has better times than CBR though by the same mags figures.

In the overall sense the CBR 250R stamps its authority as the best performing Indian built bike in the country today.


Its not just bikes, Ive observed this in Cars too, where the power to weight need not necessarily translate into the performance.

There are a lot of factors that determine the performance of a vehicle and power to weight is just 1 of them and its very laymanish to think of it as an ultimate factor according to me.