bro i was offered a complete package and i never asked individual prices, so cant say about the costs involved in handling.. better you check out with joel himself.. shoot him a mail..

bro i havent recieved the ffe yet.. i believe its true but with me being 120 kgs its tough to be a ninja250r killer.. a lighter rider would definitely beat the the green machine

surely, i would post further as i get my hands on the exhaust..

thanx for the advice, will put it back asap....

once you put it back you will notice the sudden power surge at 6k that disappeared with it being removed
and the crisp throttle response...

Be ultra careful while disassembling the OF. If the bush breaks, it is not an issue as you can always get spares. But if the clip breaks, you are in for trouble. You will then have to do some jugaad with superglue to affix the clip on its fractured base. But don't worry, if you are slow and steady and gently ease off the OF, there would be no problems.

24/25 IS low FE, even for a new bike. Some tips might help:

##Keep the revs under control - the CBR has a very low mass flywheel so the crankshaft revs up and down very fast. You have be smooth on the throttle.

##Try to maintain revs within bands as far as possible rather than hear the snarl of the engine as it picks up the gas.

##Try to get to and maintain higher gears as far as conditions permit WITHOUT the engine snatching and spitting. Quick shifting from 1st thru to 4th and maintaining that is better than staying in 3rd for some time.

##I listen to the engine - gearbox sync and then shift up or down. I do not pay attention to the rev counter unless I am on the highway. If you develop the feel for this type of riding, the combo will be optimally used without strain or snatch.

##Try out some fuel additives. I have been using one for all my vehicles and the difference is palpable after just one tank - smoother engine power and delivery and higher FE plus a clean fuel system from tank to valves.

##You will find that cruising at about 80 to 85 will give you a far higher FE than the added 15 kph to 100 kph justifies. The 6th in the CBR is just a wee bit lower than it should be...

## Almost forgot. The bike has the tendency to lose about 5 to 7 lbs per sq inch of tyre pressure in say 20 odd days. Do keep the TP at 29/29 for single seat and 29/33 for pillion riding. Sounds insignificant but can affect FE by as much as 15%!

## Lube the chain. Sounds strange? A mass moving more smoothly and freely will consume lesser energy to reach that state and maintain it.

You will be surprised but if you are just that less enthu on the throttle, you will gain at least 15 % FE right away

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Thanks sir. Apart from the points suggested, some replies in bold above.

Thanks. Got it. Will ride again as last TR. Hope "run-in" of the body would do it in due time.
I would like 72 horses and a nearly familiar posture on Ninja 650, but I think it is a overkill in traffic here and I may not feel taking bike out for errands. I feel that CBR250 is apt now. I was also craving for new launches like Ninja 300, Suzuki 250 or new Ductai in Bangalore. But better know that most of these news fade out and nothing really happens.

Thanks bbsrailfan. I am zeroing in.

I got a paid service done at saphire Honda bannerghatta road. The mechanic was khan. My main complaint was engine roughness which is still untouched. He did everything in my presence. I wanted him to check the tappet clearence but he insisted everything was good enough till next service. Bike has run 3800kms, even my local mechanic agrees that the sound is a little rough. Next week i'll have to check with city Honda.

see the valves make noise and its common. the roughness might be due to the chain. i had similar issues inititally and it turned out not to be valves but the chainset and other tits and bits..
also 3.8k is less.. the engine set-in continues till 5k odd though only the first 500-600 makes the diffrence.. if its unacceptable then get it checked else i believe it will reduce gradually..


also take the machine for a long trip on speeds 100 odd with the safety precautions.. let her run on those speeds for some time.. you'd enjoy the diffrence then at 4k rpm..
the engine needs to set in across all rpm's..

I was a bit unsatisfied with City Honda (though not to an extent that I'd rant about it) and was considering Sapphire Honda for my next service. Anyone had a recent exp with Sapphire JP nagar?

Took my machine for a ride yesterday - had some dirt road riding and now my bike feels very rough. Guess dirt in the chain is the culprit. Is there any low cost alternate to chain-cleaning sprays?

I am facing a issue(if it all can be termed as issue I'm not much experienced) but there is always a continuous faint "tick-tick" sound whenever the bike is started in the morning.. the sound gets depressed after ride but if listened carefully its still there.. my bike has 5.5k kms on odo can't really remember when I started noticing the sound.. my friend's cbr have run 9k kms nd have simillar sound but a little bit pronounced than mine.. what may be the cause..?


Got myself a chain cleaner cum rust protector for 220 INR I'm satisfied with its cleaning capability the manufacturer name is Diamond.. yellow black bottle..

I have noticed that the CBR is VERY sensitive to chain lube or its absence.

Now, "bike feels rough" is a tad generalised, don't you think? If you could be more specific, the answers would be aptly targeted.

In my opinion, dirt road biking will result in grave abuse of the bike in case of the CBR. It has a track-oriented engine, placed in a track oriented chassis, clothed with track-oriented bodywork BUT all of this modified for the street. Continued enduro-style riding would cause a humongous plethora of problems. Do reconsider your use...

The chain is a sealed O - ring type which precludes the standard wash and lube method of maintenance. Hence, a good spray/liquid type cleaner and/or lube would be correct, within reasonable cost.

I recollect having read somewhere that lubes which do not contain volatile substances are okay for the O-ring chains. Other users, please comment on this.

first of all.. gravel and mud/pebbles etc will make any machine rough.. they will get attached to the chain and get stuck due to sticky lube and get you contant vibes and roughness
in the engine. also any chain cleaner will not clean it completely.. so here is the DIY...

take 10 no t-spanner and over the front sprocket cover and clean that area throughly first with a brush and diesel . put it back and then clean the rest of the chain too.
like throughly. i mean the chain will get silvery shiney. let it dry for some time and then put it back on stand. tilt the bike.. start it and put in 1st gear. ask someone to hold it
if you dont have a paddock. then spray right on the rings and while the chain is moving.. and if riding in dusty /gravel roads. this needs to be done frequently. keep a check on tyre pressure and chain slack. over inflated tyre will also make it rough..

the faint click is nothing but SHIM DEVI's prakop.. best suggestion.. ignore.. even if you get the engine out and get the head cover open and the clearance for inlet is anything between 14mm-20mm they wont change it and i will also suggest not to change it..

for exhaust it is normal between 24-31 mm

inlet 16mm standard ( + - 3mm )
exhaust 27 mm (+ - 3mm)..

i have that tick tick too infact every cbr after 10 k will have ot.. so ignore. if your hand goes numb or its really loud. get it check. 1/2 out of 4 might need a replacement.
but 5k is too early..


to be very true all the chain cleaners have similar base properties like that of the kerosene. .however diesel is fine for the o-ring. people who know more can help on this topic.

When i say that the bike feels rough - I mean I experience vibrations on the handlebars and tank - the kind of vibes that make your palms feel numb after a while. I am pretty sure most of us would have experienced that kind of vibes on their CBRs - and it's not only at 4500-5500 RPM, its evident across the revs range - which is one of the reasons I am sure that these vibes are different from the engine vibes which most of the users have spoken here about.

You got me wrong, dear sir! When I was referring to dirt road biking, I didn't mean enduro or motocross styled riding - all I meant was that on my last tour, I came across a significant section of hardcore Indian kutccha roads - and that was enough to screw up the bike's smoothness!

I had always noticed my old trusted mechanic using kerosene and a brush to clean the chain on my Gladiator - though it did the trick, I was unsure of its effect on the O-rings. If kerosene is safe, I can try the same at home.

kerosene is just fine. people have tested o-rings with diffrent substances and let them soak for 15 days and they were no diffrent then the ones soaked in chain cleaners and other diffrent stuff..


check this awsome stuff and be at peace....


http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345397

also clean the front and rear sprockets. make sure the chain gets dry and then you put the chin lube. else as soon as you take a small spin the stuck kerosene would fly out.. making your rims go black and the spray too would drip... clean it well.. wash it. dry it and then lube between the links.. the lube should go till the rings and not on the surface that will also reduce the chain noise..