Only adheep can clarify that

Using two projectors at the same time might be a bit risky because one projector takes about 35Watts, two will be 70 Watts, The halogen lamp consumes about 55 watts.
Also there will be a lot of heat generated by them when both are on. Did you see the mod where someone used a high power Led beam for the lower light? That is also a good option

Can anybody help me with the number of KTM Service center at GHATKOPER / Lower Parel
what time do they open ?
I tried calling several times since OCT 1 - 3 Pm Both the Places But Nobody is Answering ..Are they IGNORING ME? :P :|

Looks Hot Bro..I am planning of doing the same but with only one projector ..but the Quest I dnt knw anybody who does it for bikes in MUMBAI? :| ?

Mileage and average is calculated every 800 meters of riding.

Price increase in duke 200

Duke 200 prices have gone up by Rs.8000/- (ex-showroom) to Rs. 130000/- (Ex-Showroom Delhi) w.e.f. 1/10/2012.

Existing Duke Owners should rejoice that their asset has appreciated.

Potential Duke Owners should hurry before prices increase furthur to re-allign with global prices of Duke 200!!

HELP NEEDED!! Fork oil leak!

Today I noticed fork oil leakage on my Duke. Don't know how severe it was but it covered the whole area and a few drops fell off. It probably even covered the front brakes, explaining the poor braking that I experienced the last few rides.

The problem is that the SVC is 150km/3.5 hours from where I am. I have no idea how to go about the repairs. I believe I should refrain from riding it in such condition.

Do you think that the mechanics at a regular Bajaj service center (available here) will be able to fix the problem? Or would the upside down forks pose a problem? Also, to replace the seal, does the Duke have a unique forkseal that I should get couriered from the SVC? Since I don't think it will be safe or convenient to ride it to the SVC, what other options do I have?

How many KMs has your Duke covered till now?

Ideally, the fork seal should not give way so soon.
There have been a couple of such cases and Bajaj-KTM has replaced the seals (free of cost, i think).

How about giving the service centre a call and finding out?
Ask them if they recommend that you ride all the way there.
They would most likely discourage you from going to a normal Bajaj service centre, since the mechanics there aren't trained on the Dukes.

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~3000 km

Faulty seals perhaps, or a combination of faulty seals and bad roads? Because I was always on the lookout for oil leakage and used to clean the area every few days, so it wasn't negligence.

I will call them tomorrow, the incident happened at around 5pm, I tried calling but couldn't connect.
I am pretty sure some of the posters here are as knowledgeable as the SVC folks, so I needed some opinions until I contact the SVC. I have been reading around the web and changing the fork seal appears to be a reasonably easy task, with many people doing it themselves. Anyone have any experience with changing the seals?

It is confirmed. The rev limiter has been reset at 10000 rpm in the 5th gear. It's still at 10500 rpm in 4th gear. I have not checked what is the case with 6th gear . I could only touch 115-117 in fifth when the limiter set in. This was tested in varying road conditions

Now few things which I can't wrap my head around.

1) What is the use of lowering the rev limit selectively if they have done it for reliability purposes? because the engine will still rev till 10500 rpms in 4 gears.
Did they think that most redlining is done in 5th and 6th by top end hunters?
Or may be it's the transmission reliability they are most worried about ?

2) The duke when launched had a claimed output of 25bhp at 10500 rpm. It was eye popping for a 200 cc bike at that time considering CBR205 R made the same figure, albeit at a lower rpm. Is it that KTM/Bajaj knowingly pushed the engines to its 'reliability limits'(I know it's exaggerating as the engine is still capable of making more) just to claim that figure of 25bhp keeping the CBR in mind. And now they realize their mistake and hence this castration exercise?
Even more malicious would be if they had this resetting planned before. you know, give thema beeeg number, then quietly 'flash' the ecu later when folks visit the svc without telling the details of the operation and the effects it would have on the bike performance.
I would hate KTM if the 2nd were true.
Think of it. If we consider an almost linear powerband(which is especially a decent assumption in case of the Duke), then lowering the rpms by 500 is equivalent to lowering the power output by 1.25 bhp in 5th and 6th gear, which means we now have a power output of the 200NS.
I am sure not many people would like to know that.

3) Why can't we get a choice of keeping the old map? I personally don't want it for the top end. I miss the action in the 1st gear while launching from zero at traffic signals.

I know I this post might be compared with a grumpy old man creating a fuss over things but seriously I am a peeved man!!


And did I mention that my horn is not working. Headlamps, starter are working fine. But the horn has just died. I rode in huge slush day before yesterday when it rained crazy in Mumbai. Any pointers?

Seriously man...Decreasing RPM by 500 is like stupidity.!

Arghh.. i almost cried reading this!! was about to make my booking by end of this month.
Bajaj making some smart pricing moves and also the ecu reflash.. like Doga mentioned, was it a strategy to get the bike in market and then make such changes??!!
And wrt Globally realigning the prices, i dont think such a drastic hike would be possible (since the duke200 is made in india and imported, so its obvious the import duty wud mean a higher price in foreign market).... atleast lets hope the spares cost dont go thru the roof (read as in ninja, part cbr250r...)
damn it.. now if its 1.3l ex showroom delhi then it on road would be around 1.4!! and even higher in other metros...
Sad news for me

Re: KTM 200 Duke

I wrote some 10 posts ago that my bike came with ECU limited at 10,000 rpm in 5th and 6th gear. That was almost 2 months ago. But the jerking in lower rpms was (still is, should do the 1st service tomorrow, and hopefully flash the ECU with new map) very strong, even all the way to 3,000 rpm, higher than reported by most other owners.
So I guess it was some experimental ECU map, they've been trying out different maps...

In my Duke power is not very linear, it's noticeably stronger after 5000 rpm, and there's a strong surge of power almost exactly at 7000 rpm. Because it looks like I've had a little different ECU map I don't even know if that's how the power is with every Duke or just with mine...

But, I think the official max power in Duke is at 10,000 rpm. So, it still reaches 25 bhp at 10,000 rpm, but you can't use this power in practice because that's when the rev limiter will cut you off!

The thing is that with every bike you always have at least a 1000-2000 rpms more than where the peak power is. So, if the max power is at 10,000 rpm then it doesn't even make much sense to have the limiter at 10,500 rpm! And it makes ZERO logic to cut the power when it reaches its peak at 10,000 rpm! Someone at KTM is pushing wrong buttons...

In my opinion, whoever is deciding about Duke's ECU map is doing a very bad job.
This cutting of power obviously has nothing to do with reliability of engine because engine still goes upto 10,500 rpm in 1st-4th gears, but more with cutting the top speed. I can't think of any other reason but "road security". Which is insane, there are other faster bikes.

KTM, if you read this, this decision will cause only a bad press and will make a Duke less desirable bike. Specs are specs after all, and it will say black on white that top speed is 132 kmh, and that redline is where the peak power is, at 10,000 rpm.

As I wrote earlier, this makes even less sense when you know that Duke reaches its peak power at 10,000 rpm. And we all know that when you rev it up to 10,500 it still feels like it can easily rev much more. It feels like that because this engine can!
If anything they should have raised the cut off to 11,500 or at least 11,000 rpm in all gears.

If this was done for security reasons it will just stimulate Duke owners to get an aftermarket ECU upgrade so they can USE the full power of the engine. Which will lead to LESS security, so this whole decision will actually have opposite effect...

Not good KTM. Please reconsider.

reading these recent posts makes me n ! and their website doesnt show the power specs !??
KTM 200 Duke - Technical Details

This is probably the only time i have seen a manufacturer not specifying the bikes power specs on their website!
(when you click on the link "LIVELY, SMOOTH-RUNNING FOUR-STROKE" on the bike highlights page i.e. >> KTM 200 Duke - Lively, smooth-running four-stroke it is described as "It all results in 19 kW (25 hp) and incredibly punchy torque, even at lower revs – with irresistible smoothness."

Is ktm trying to 'hide' specs ? bad very bad... and then the warranty (on second hand bikes.. were ktm has on their website said the warranty is tied to a bike and not the owner) but they are not willing to acknowledge that in writing when asked... (its another story... )

And oh about ktm reading this thread... I know they are and let me tell them that they just lost 1 customer and are in the process of losing another! ktm needs to be more forthcoming with their specs and 'effects' of the changes they make in their ecu maps etc..

And sadly we hear another case of busted fork seals !!

Sorry buddy, I got the words all wrong :P... S1D is right, the horn system is from Hella and it has nothing to do with Skoda. Because of the sound they use to call it that way. And you already answered the question, Since the stock horn of the Duke sounds odd I'm changing it..

Ur right buddy, Thank for helping me out..

Thanks bro, well i'm not aware of any mod centers in Mumbai either.. But Good luck finding one buddy..

You are right dude, two projectors are 35W each and the Halogen used are 8000K ( I don't think its legal beyond 6000k). In the end it all depends on the duke's dynamo and how quick the battery is getting charged right?

And about the Heating problem: two projectors in a single Headlight sets, Yes it can be a serious issue. I've seen R15's Fazer's with two projectors but they are placed in two different Headlight sets. I got an idea and when I discussed this with the AutoXculpt people and they said they can do the modification just like the Duke 690 ( Open projector Head lights eg, R1 and Duke 690). Will that help?